Money banks death

[luckyluck]

I am going to ask what seems a daft question ..

I am English as is my husband .. We both use to live in Thailand but my daughter in law and her family caused problems and we split up ..

He sold our villa but only got a small amount of money .. Which is not the problem.. But he has not shown me as yet any paper work . It's just a villa in Thai village

He has more or less dumped his family in England even thou he knows the daughter in law if a lying manipulative crafty cow .. And the mother is just as bad ..

We have grandchildren there too

My son lives in England they split up he goes to visit when he can..

Now..

My hand was gong to come home .. And said Thailand was in the past .l find out what has been gong on etc.. But now seems to of changed.l my

I do not know where he is living but pretty sure he is in village coz of children..

He said he cud not get a back account which I know is correct as he is on tourist visa unless he managed to re open our old bank account which I gave him the book..

My daughter in law .. I hope he has not put money in her account ..

Now, this is the question ... If we all loose contact with him and my son goes back less and less .. If he suddenly died he is 59 .. By any way if you know what I mean

We would not be told .. That I do know .. Is there anyway if he had some account cud they get access somehow ... The way he has changed and turned from the nice kind caring man he was.. Oh and my daughter in law was very jealous of me even my daughter as she wanted to be my husbands number one women and I don't mean for sex..

So, again question if anything happened to him cud they get access to his money if we were all out of the picture ?

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Thank you

[CharlieH]

So who owns whatever he bought because he cant own anything here ? (property wise)

Yes you can open a bank account.

Embassy have to be informed of death. Who is in the back of his passport as next of kin ? They would be informed.

They could get access if he leaves a will, or tells them his PIN and they use the card, or if he has a joint account.

Your OP above is not very clear and I have based my answers on what I believe you are trying to say.

[luckyluck]

Ok.. Thank you ..

I thought tourist could not get bank account on tourist visa ..but does not matter .

There is no next of kin in his passport ...

I don't think he Wud be that stupid to do joint account or give them their PIN number so.. If anything happened money would be safe .. Or leave a will for them.. But he has turned so stupid .. I don't know anymore .. Lol..

Thank you for your help it answered my question

[Hedghog]

Seems like you and your husband have split up.

Why is his money your concern?

Probably set himself up with someone new,hence severing of ties in England.

You don't mention any time frame for the events.

[anto]

Could not understand any of the OP post .

[Bender]

I am English as is my husband

i have serious doubt, you are more likely to be thai...

[luckyluck]

Because it is not his money.... The villa was bought from money we had in England when we sold our house ..

He has family in England whom he has shut off and because of the situation of what has gone on with him and the Thai family .. I don't want them getting hold of our money.. Or any money that if anything happened to him, should go to his blood family ..

I am not very good when I write a complicated post and wanted to try and get the story over ..

Basically I know they have been after money, as my daughter in law for nearly seven years would not help us to sell our villa .. As she owned the land as well .. It's just a Thai villa in Thai village and estate agents were not interested as no enough profit, so everything was in her hands and she also sells property.

He has not met anyone else. The issue is the bloody family and could they get his money ..

Which it seems they cannot... And if he is telling the truth that the villa has sold, as he has not shown me any documentation, hence also my concern as if it has not sold, and anything did happen to him, the house would be gone as like idiots we trusted our daughter in law and not got a lease etc ..

And I have no idea how to get any documentation of the sale.

[johnatong]

Because it is not his money.... The villa was bought from money we had in England when we sold our house ..

He has family in England whom he has shut off and because of the situation of what has gone on with him and the Thai family .. I don't want them getting hold of our money.. Or any money that if anything happened to him, should go to his blood family ..

I am not very good when I write a complicated post and wanted to try and get the story over ..

Basically I know they have been after money, as my daughter in law for nearly seven years would not help us to sell our villa .. As she owned the land as well .. It's just a Thai villa in Thai village and estate agents were not interested as no enough profit, so everything was in her hands and she also sells property.

He has not met anyone else. The issue is the bloody family and could they get his money ..

Which it seems they cannot... And if he is telling the truth that the villa has sold, as he has not shown me any documentation, hence also my concern as if it has not sold, and anything did happen to him, the house would be gone as like idiots we trusted our daughter in law and not got a lease etc ..

And I have no idea how to get any documentation of the sale.

I am not really sure what you are asking about. Is this money yours or does it belong to someone else?.

If you believe someone is denying you access to your own funds here in Thailand you will have to seek assistance from the Thai police or a Thai lawyer.

[luckyluck]

no one is denying me money as yet ..

Due to the situation I was asking if a Thai family cud get money if my husbanD dies ..

And also how do I get documentation of the villa sale .. As something is suspicious .. As he is not giving me my share of the villa.. Just saying its sold ..

Which I have a right to see sale documentation..

[Hedghog]

Because it is not his money.... The villa was bought from money we had in England when we sold our house ..

He has family in England whom he has shut off and because of the situation of what has gone on with him and the Thai family .. I don't want them getting hold of our money.. Or any money that if anything happened to him, should go to his blood family ..

I am not very good when I write a complicated post and wanted to try and get the story over ..

Basically I know they have been after money, as my daughter in law for nearly seven years would not help us to sell our villa .. As she owned the land as well .. It's just a Thai villa in Thai village and estate agents were not interested as no enough profit, so everything was in her hands and she also sells property.

He has not met anyone else. The issue is the bloody family and could they get his money ..

Which it seems they cannot... And if he is telling the truth that the villa has sold, as he has not shown me any documentation, hence also my concern as if it has not sold, and anything did happen to him, the house would be gone as like idiots we trusted our daughter in law and not got a lease etc ..

And I have no idea how to get any documentation of the sale.

OK.

That clears things up a little.

What money he is holding,I presume he will do with as he thinks fit.

You don't seem to have a leg to stand on,unless you travel over and sort things out face to face.

A lot of anger is present so I doubt that would work out well.

A hiding to nothing is phrase that comes to mind.

In your initial post the money wasn't the main issue,when it clearly is.

Good luck with your endeavours.

[luckyluck]

Don't need luck .. Need a miracle lol..

Yes I am angry .. Who would not be, esp when you have a lying nasty manipulative two face.. All smiley nice daughter in law .. Then watch how she talks to,your husband in a nicer softer tone .. And then he sticks up for her more..

He don't even know her as such .. 8 years compared with 41 years .. Yes I am angry .. I would not mind, but he woke up to a lot of stuff last year .. Sigh .. She has him where she wants him.. Prob because she split with my son .. And needs to keep him there so uses her charm.. And of course he now has quite a bit of money

[CharlieH]

Who owned this "villa" ? (if it was here in Thailand ?) , because if it was and neither of you are Thai,who actually owned it and had the power to sell it ? because neither of you could.

[luckyluck]

We had the villa built for us .. We paid for the land through our daughter in law, which technically she then owed the land.

My husband said after almost 7 years that it had sold, it was gone and that daughter in law got a buyer and done the land office..

But a few days before this., my husband said he would be willingly give me the villa.. Sigh!... hence my and others thinking does not add up, esp as it took him over two weeks to even say how much it sold for, as i kept asking him for then say fees were like 10,000 English pounds on a 40,000 pound villa ..and I also asked where is the money as he said no bank account as he is on tourist visa ., which I understand this to be correct ., he will not say if daughter in law has money sale .. So as you can see it's all very odd..

We are both English ., and big fools lol .

[Hedghog]

Don't you know anyone in the local area,that can suss out the lay of the land,so to speak.

[luckyluck]

I have just asked the daughter in law for documentation of the sale .. Silly me, should of asked earlier..

Hopefully if it is sold at least I will know for sure .. I don't think she can make up false documents? As I would not have any idea what they look like ..

[luckyluck]

Don't you know anyone in the local area,that can suss out the lay of the land,so to speak.

No.. I have asked daughter in law for proof documentation .. Will see what happens ..

My son does not know much .. But as he was just visiting ., the being sold might also be for his benefit just while he was there .. Anyone can bring anyone round and say sold ..

All odd ..

[Koosdedooes]

If i understand what You say the house was paid for through your SIL who in addtion is also the landowner, as far as i understand the process, some had to sign a declaration that the money was the Thai nationals, therefore if this is the case the cash is gone and you are entitled to nothing

[luckyluck]

Thank you everyone that has replied ..

I have no idea about the money being signed for from Thai national .. I know we paid the builder direct .. But as Said gave her money for land..

My husband if it has not sold lives there still ... If it has sold i have no idea if he has bank account as I was concerned if the money went into her account ..

Having read a lot about people being ripped off.. And men disappearing etc... Obviously I am suspicious ..

If it is not going to give me all my share then I can't do anything .. I just don't want that family getting anything ..

Thank you all again

[CharlieH]

From what I can get from this, based on your info, neither of you owned anything.

Neither of you have any claim to anything, the whole thing was done/handled and processed by a Thai, the daughter in law. She and only she is the legal owner of that land and the building on it.

A house or land sale can be done in minutes it does not need detailed paperwork, just the "chanote" (deed) which would have been in her name and if sold she simply signs it over, there is no "paperwork" other than that document.

She if she chooses could tell you both to "walk away" and you have no recourse.

Forget it, you have both been relieved of your cash and never actually owned anything, therefore you are not entitled to anything based on the info provided.

It certainly wouldnt cost 10k pounds to sell, not even 200 to transfer a property in Thailand, there is no "conveyancing" etc here, but it irrelevant as its nothing to do with either of you, based on the info provided.

[luckyluck]

Yes I agree we don't own anything .,

But as my husband is still there as I have said .. He is either lying and not sold the house ..

Or she sold it ., he has got the money and not saying how much ..

And very questionable ..what has he done with it .. I just hope it's not in her account ..

She owned house next door .. There was a blue book ., but had no name on .,

Thank you for the info about transferring etc .. Did not realise how easy it was .,

But there was property tax etc as I read on website what has to be paid ..

As she sold it .. If true she will also take her cut ..

But at the end of the day I will never know ., maybe she has said it cost X amount .. He is not like me that will see what taxes and what had to be paid .. But I do think he just wants to keep extra money ..if it sold ..

Thank you for replying ..

[anotheruser]

We had the villa built for us .. We paid for the land through our daughter in law, which technically she then owed the land.

We are both English ., and big fools lol .

Technically I am a billionaire....

[cyberfarang]

Because it is not his money.... The villa was bought from money we had in England when we sold our house ..

He has family in England whom he has shut off and because of the situation of what has gone on with him and the Thai family .. I don't want them getting hold of our money.. Or any money that if anything happened to him, should go to his blood family ..

I am not very good when I write a complicated post and wanted to try and get the story over ..

Basically I know they have been after money, as my daughter in law for nearly seven years would not help us to sell our villa .. As she owned the land as well .. It's just a Thai villa in Thai village and estate agents were not interested as no enough profit, so everything was in her hands and she also sells property.

He has not met anyone else. The issue is the bloody family and could they get his money ..

Which it seems they cannot... And if he is telling the truth that the villa has sold, as he has not shown me any documentation, hence also my concern as if it has not sold, and anything did happen to him, the house would be gone as like idiots we trusted our daughter in law and not got a lease etc ..

And I have no idea how to get any documentation of the sale.

How do you know hubby hasn`t met anyone else?

Are you saying that you and your husband bought the villa in your Thai daughter in law`s name? If you have then you`ve had it. They don`t have to show you anything. It seems that your husband has left you out in the cold and that you placed your trust in all the wrong people. The only way you might archive anything is to take it to court. Good luck with that.

[luckyluck]

I will not go down court route .,

At the end of the day ., at least I am in my own country with my family .. He is just a stupid fool in general ..

We had the villa built in his name .. Contract ., but the villa was never registered in anyone's name as I was told she the daughter in law can only register one property ..

Nothing I can do about it .. If it's sold and he has received money ., that's all well and good .. Where he has put it .. That's another thing unless he has got a new bank account ., or re opened an old one which was 5 years old since using I believe ..

I am a lot calmer now ., not worth it now ., at the end of the day he chose these people who he does not know over me 41 years and his kids who are in their 30's .,and honest people ..

[luckyluck]

I will not go down court route .,

At the end of the day ., at least I am in my own country with my family .. He is just a stupid fool in general ..

We had the villa built in his name .. Contract ., but the villa was never registered in anyone's name as I was told she the daughter in law can only register one property ..

Nothing I can do about it .. If it's sold and he has received money ., that's all well and good .. Where he has put it .. That's another thing unless he has got a new bank account ., or re opened an old one which was 5 years old since using I believe ..

I am a lot calmer now ., not worth it now ., at the end of the day he chose these people who he does not know over me 41 years and his kids who are in their 30's .,and honest people ..

[cyberfarang]

I will not go down court route .,

At the end of the day ., at least I am in my own country with my family .. He is just a stupid fool in general ..

We had the villa built in his name .. Contract ., but the villa was never registered in anyone's name as I was told she the daughter in law can only register one property ..

Nothing I can do about it .. If it's sold and he has received money ., that's all well and good .. Where he has put it .. That's another thing unless he has got a new bank account ., or re opened an old one which was 5 years old since using I believe ..

I am a lot calmer now ., not worth it now ., at the end of the day he chose these people who he does not know over me 41 years and his kids who are in their 30's .,and honest people ..

It seems you are trying to discover what assets your husband has to use against him and for you to claim using the UK court system that is very anti husband when it comes to divorce settlements. If he`s a smart guy and hopefully he is, he`ll keep any money he has in Thailand well hidden from the UK divorce court system and not fall in to the black widow`s spider web where he`ll get eaten alive.

If money from the sale of your house in England went into that villa, and I have no idea who paid the lion`s share towards your UK home, something you and your husband are not allowed to do in Thailand that means you both can`t claim ownership of it anyway and you have no jurisdiction over here, then you took the chance and lost. This is why I guess your husband is keeping you in the dark about his present private affairs.

[sandgroper2]

I have just asked the daughter in law for documentation of the sale .. Silly me, should of asked earlier..

Hopefully if it is sold at least I will know for sure .. I don't think she can make up false documents? As I would not have any idea what they look like ..

You have obviously done an english language course since your original post. Amazing.

[thaiduncankk]

I have just asked the daughter in law for documentation of the sale .. Silly me, should of asked earlier..

Hopefully if it is sold at least I will know for sure .. I don't think she can make up false documents? As I would not have any idea what they look like ..

You have obviously done an english language course since your original post. Amazing.

Or sobered up !

[thaiduncankk]

No mention of which village, or even province, the villa is in.

[ammagic]

You are in an impossible position. If have a Thai nominee for holding land/house for you, by law that property is theirs to do what they will. Many if us have lost money this way. Lesson learned!

[jeab1980]

Are you saying you and your husband lived in Thailand both British!!!! And now you have split up I presume you are back in UK and from what I understand Husband has found new lady here yes!!!!