Outplayed or 'Cheated'..... Again?

[Brewster67]

Thailand was playing Japan last night in the volleyball...

They lost, and apparently my wife's facebook newsfeed is swamped with accusations that they were cheated by Japan... Now I was in a restaurant last night and it was on the big screen and although I was not watching, many Thais were.. They didn't seem to be going mad at the screen at the time in my opinion.

I pointed out to the wife that whenever Thailand loses anything, be it boxing, football... no matter.... They were ALWAYS cheated out of it.... Lol.... They are just bad losers.

But wifey is adamant..... Any farang watch the game?..... What was your view?... outplayed or cheated????

[Blackheart]

I to am interested

[fey]

I to am interested

im not

[Your Thainess]

I might be interested if this thread gets a bit more inflammatory.

[kannot]

I might be interested if this thread gets a bit more inflammatory.

Dousing the volleyball in benzene might help?

[Bender]

I might be interested if this thread gets a bit more inflammatory.

so we need the usual thai apologists...

[happynthailand]

there was some thing about that on one of the english news sites

didn't pay much mine to it,but it was on the the news

[nottocus]

Always the victim.

[Bantex]

From Coconuts Bangkok

Volleyball fans all over the world have spammed and left angry messages at the International Volleyball Federation's Facebook page over the seemingly "unfair" victory of the host Japan over the Thai team yesterday.

In a five-set thriller that lasted three hours, the Thai players lost to the Japanese 3-2 in the Olympic final volleyball qualifying match yesterday at the Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium.

Thailand secured the first set, but the drama started in the second set when the tablet that was supposed to send the Thai team's player swap request to the referee malfunctioned.

The Thai players protested and were penalized with two red cards as an intention to deploy the match, leaving the team distracted for the rest of the game.

The tablet didn't work for the second time when the Thai assistant coach carrying it, Nattapon Srisamutnar, requested a challenge in the last set.

"I just wondered what happened with the tablet controlled by officials, mainly the Japanese," Nattaporn told The Nation.

The Thai players left the stadium in tears as their chance to enter the Olympics was snatched.

Thailand coach Kiattipong Radchatagriengkai was furious over the red cards, saying he doesn’t even know why he received them.

“This is a first for me, and I’ve been in this game for 20 years,” he told Japan Times. “I have no idea what the referee was thinking. I wasn’t rude to him at all. I just asked him questions about the tablets we use for the substitutions.

“It’s incredibly unfair. I ask the referee questions and we get penalized. But the match is over now and all we can do is accept it.”

[elgordo38]

I might be interested if this thread gets a bit more inflammatory.

My g/f wanted to kick the b*****d Mexican referee. She said that Thailand's button to change players was not working.

[happy pattaya man]

I watched the whole game and my thoughts are that Thailand were the better team..I'm confused that at 2 all in the final set, it was 1st to 15 and not 25, the look on the face of the Thai captain was such that she had just found out it was to 15.

hpm.

[KIWIBATCH]

It wasn't one of those tablets that Yingluck bought for the schools was it....???

[laolover88]

View here is that Thailand should declare war on Japan. Now we know what those Chinese tanks are for.

[mfharrison]

i said 'mai pen rai' when it was brought up in my office. It's only a game. This was met quite angrily. So i proceeded to explain that this is why 'mai pen rai' is bad. As what is precieved as 'mai pen rai' for one might not be precieved in the same way for others. Was a good way to explain some cross cultural frustrations that happen from time to time.

[jerome2]

It!s not the first time Japan cheeted the thais ,they aranged a quarterfinal so that thais would not get to the semi 2 or3 years ago... by the way ...mexican???... theses corrupt ...referee???

Edited May 20, 2016 by jerome2

[Oldgumshoe]

I watched the game and the standard of play was excellent. I have watched many volleyball matches and not understanding the commentary could not make out why the Thai coach was red carded, he was not animated or appearing rude and disrespectful to the refs. I have never seen red cards issued in any match, international or otherwise. I have also never seen the ref. challenge points as happened I think twice in the final set. It was a pity to see such a high quality game soured by dodgy equipment and unfair penalizing. Even some of the Japanese players were in tears and I don't think they were tears of joy. Sad ending and in my opinion Thailand was rorted.

[Pepper1959]

Throughout the tournament, there has been issues with substituting players, obviously there has been technology problems, hence the cause of issues in the Thai Japan game. However, there were minor issues in earlier games in which Thailand played. The fact that the Coconut article stated that it affected the players, well they are professionals, they should get over it. Says something about their mental toughness or lack of it. Maybe that is an issue of Thai sport. Regarding 15 points in the final set, mentioned in another reply, the 15 points has been in for many years and Thailand has played these previously and is not a new issue to the team.

[mtls2005]

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/918369-what-actually-happened-in-the-volleyball/#entry10763061

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/sports/Thai-fans-fume-over-volleyball-red-cards-30286348.html

Edited May 20, 2016 by mtls2005

[TKDfella]

I watched the video after the result on the net and with an English commentator/former player. According to him it was the Thai coach's fault that Thailand lost the game because he wasn't only complaining to the ref but shouting at other officials sitting behind. He was told to be quiet and he didn't comply then got the red card. The English commentator mentioned that the Thai coach was arguing via the players, apparently something he shoudn't have done. While the Thai team was getting upset the Japanese team was making use of the 'diversion'.

[Khon Kaen Dave]

i watched that match,in a local restaurant in our village.i thought both teams played well.My wife is an ex volleyball champ from back in the day.I didnt see her getting agitated over any cheating.She complimented the Japanese on their playing skills.The place was full of young people who came to eat and watch the match.most of the young guys were remarking on how cute some of the Japanese girls were,especially no 3.

The same the whole world over.

You win some,you lose some.

[dotpoom]

There definitely seems to be cause for suspicion?

[shirtless]

Thailand was cheated, there should be a rematch in Thailand with Thai officials so it will be fair.

[JGV]

Home side advantage - happens in all sport and away is often treated unfairly

[Skeptic7]

Cheated...by the referee, not by Japan.

[spidermike007]

i said 'mai pen rai' when it was brought up in my office. It's only a game. This was met quite angrily. So i proceeded to explain that this is why 'mai pen rai' is bad. As what is precieved as 'mai pen rai' for one might not be precieved in the same way for others. Was a good way to explain some cross cultural frustrations that happen from time to time.

Your number one mistake was that you were engaging in a somewhat philosophical discussion. I have never encountered a culture that is less philosophical than Thailand.

As far as the match goes, I have no idea. But, in general Thailand is not exactly a shining light on the world's sport stage.

[Rhys]

ultra-nationalism...