Sooo Upto Me Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Here we go again another so called monk in the news for all the wrong reasons. That's 4 this week. Carry on like this an the crooks in Orange will be competing with the crooks in Stilettos. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawan Chan 7 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Amazing how much human detritus the Buddhist monkhood attracts. This was not the worst story we've read about monks' misconduct over the years. Drug parties, sex parties, rape, bestiality, burglaries, murder, shameless amassing of obscene wealth - all that and more under the cloak of the saffron robe. Well, I guess that happens when every Jim and Johnnie is allowed to become a monk to allegedly "redeem" himself. I never have and never will "wai" a monk, because I can never be sure whether I might actually offer my respect to a crook, felon, or worse. Wow, another foreigner who integrates well into Thai society. You sound like you are proud never waing a monk, are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Amazing how much human detritus the Buddhist monkhood attracts. This was not the worst story we've read about monks' misconduct over the years. Drug parties, sex parties, rape, bestiality, burglaries, murder, shameless amassing of obscene wealth - all that and more under the cloak of the saffron robe. Well, I guess that happens when every Jim and Johnnie is allowed to become a monk to allegedly "redeem" himself. I never have and never will "wai" a monk, because I can never be sure whether I might actually offer my respect to a crook, felon, or worse. "Drug parties, sex parties, rape, bestiality, burglaries, murder, shameless amassing of obscene wealth - all that and more under the cloak of the saffron robe Catholic church. I know the topic is THAI Buddhism and its abuses, but just for the sake of balance, let's try this..............http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/secrets-of-the-vatican/ Religion, bringing happiness to the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 I never have and never will "wai" a monk, because I can never be sure whether I might actually offer my respect to a crook, felon, or worse. Probably best not to wai anyone then, just to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacChang Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 What's the difference between a beggar and a monk? One accepts who he is, another pretends to be something great.I refuse and never donate. If they were that good, they would be giving to society instead of receiving from society. They should be farming and producing food, and helping those that need. Instead, they mumble and beg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Amazing how much human detritus the Buddhist monkhood attracts. This was not the worst story we've read about monks' misconduct over the years. Drug parties, sex parties, rape, bestiality, burglaries, murder, shameless amassing of obscene wealth - all that and more under the cloak of the saffron robe. Well, I guess that happens when every Jim and Johnnie is allowed to become a monk to allegedly "redeem" himself. I never have and never will "wai" a monk, because I can never be sure whether I might actually offer my respect to a crook, felon, or worse. "Drug parties, sex parties, rape, bestiality, burglaries, murder, shameless amassing of obscene wealth - all that and more under the cloak of the saffron robe Catholic church. I know the topic is THAI Buddhism and its abuses, but just for the sake of balance, let's try this..............http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/secrets-of-the-vatican/ Religion, bringing happiness to the world. Why is it so many of us introduce the alleged and proven wrongs done in the catholic church while discussing the alleged and proven wrongs in the monkhood. Is it like saying because the catholic church did wrong so it is ok for the Buddhist clergy to do the same. Much of the wrongs of the church are discussed, and something, maybe not enough, is done about it. The wrongs, real or alleged in Buddhism should also be discussed and something should be done about it. I am not a religious person, but I can imagine and understand religion can be important to others. The fact religion is often used to control others is criminal. Even so, there are many in this world who need religion. So be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optad Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Endless mirth served up by their boredom. Gotta thank him really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travel2003 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 (edited) Amazing how much human detritus the Buddhist monkhood attracts. This was not the worst story we've read about monks' misconduct over the years. Drug parties, sex parties, rape, bestiality, burglaries, murder, shameless amassing of obscene wealth - all that and more under the cloak of the saffron robe. Well, I guess that happens when every Jim and Johnnie is allowed to become a monk to allegedly "redeem" himself. I never have and never will "wai" a monk, because I can never be sure whether I might actually offer my respect to a crook, felon, or worse. They are called Rouge Monks. btw, you don't actually wai the monk, but what the Monk represents. Just like rapist/abusive catholic priests represent something nice, in the eyes of the naive. Edited June 2, 2016 by Travel2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travel2003 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 What's the difference between a beggar and a monk? One accepts who he is, another pretends to be something great. I refuse and never donate. If they were that good, they would be giving to society instead of receiving from society. They should be farming and producing food, and helping those that need. Instead, they mumble and beg. The beggar is personal stuff. The monk is supposed to give you the opportunity to donate something, and then you gain merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rough Rider Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 What the heck is wrong with Thai Buddhism? Apparantly they will allow ANYBODY in. We have a monk on the run accused of many crimes, including sex with a minor. We have this idiot trying to extort sex, we have the pitiful monks at the tiger temple up to their necks in trafficing of endangered species. We have the monks, and especially the abbot of the flying saucer temple up to their necks in embezzlement and even the acting head of Thai monkdom involved in illegal activities. Yet the sheeple continue to throw money at these people. Why? Personally, my respect for Thai monks is now less than zero. Once I began to understand how Thai Buddhism really worked, I always said it was nothing more than a nationwide scam. And now we have all these revelations about illegal activities at the higest levels of Thai Buddhism. What is wrong is the same as the problems with all beliefs and religions. They all hold so much power over the public that corruption is inevitable. With power comes responsibility unfortunately many consider becoming a monk as way to immunity. There should be strong vetting procedures before anyone is allowed to wear the robes but it doesn't happen. They vet Catholic priests quite well too? Point is, it's hard to know. The question is not what is wrong with the monks. You have to understand that Thailand is a 3rd world country with 3rd world standards.This guy was reported to the cops previously by his ex girlfriend and nothing was done to it. Now that he's been caught it is revealed. "Police discovered that the same woman had made a complaint against her ex at another station before." If Thailand can uplift them self to a higher standard of humanity you will not find all these corruption in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacChang Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 What's the difference between a beggar and a monk? One accepts who he is, another pretends to be something great. I refuse and never donate. If they were that good, they would be giving to society instead of receiving from society. They should be farming and producing food, and helping those that need. Instead, they mumble and beg. The beggar is personal stuff. The monk is supposed to give you the opportunity to donate something, and then you gain merit. Haha nice scam. I've always laughed at these so called holy followers. We're supposed to do something for them to gain merit. What have they themselves done to gain merit? Mumble things? Go trick other people, can't fool me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetsweeper Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 I wonder if these latest and seemingly never-ending incidents of inappropriate behaviour by Thai monks will impact on the Frolicking Frock Rock fundraising concert in Chiang Mai this year? You know the one I mean - 10,000 monks usually show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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