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CHUMPHON: -- Violence spilled over to an ER room in the early hours of Sunday morning as two groups of youths had a fight in the emergency room of Chumphon Hospital in the south of Thailand.

Medical equipment goes flying and someone falls off a bed as hospital staff struggle to maintain order. The violence was caught on tape and shared online with 100,000 viewing the trouble, reported Thairath. One commented: "Show some respect - it's a hospital for goodness sake!"

The wild hooligans were roundly criticized for their behavior with onliners saying that doctors and nurses should not have to face such trouble when they are doing their jobs helping people.

Hospital representative Chatchai Srinamwong said that violence broke out in the ER room at 3am Sunday. No hospital staff were injured in the melee, he said.

Central Chumporn police said that there had been an early incident at an entertainment venue near the Suriwong Hotel when some people were injured. When the two groups of youths involved met again at the hospital violence erupted again.

The mother of one injured person has registered a complaint with police. Hospital authorities are studying the CCTV footage before requesting action from police over the fight.

Source: Thairath

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10 against 1. Tough guys.

If it was only one-on-one, there would probably not have been any trouble. Thais generally prefer 10 to one. One Thai is a limp-dick. Ten Thais are suddenly all King Naruesans who can attack a single person, especially if they are disabled, a Laos girl or tourist pensioners from Europe.

Thai society is breaking down, as predicted variously since the illegal coup. This is just one more example. Far from 'returning happiness to the people' many Thais are now extremely unhappy, the economy is collapsing and Thailand is fast becoming a pariah nation. Many Thais now understand that the army only wants (and only ever wanted) to be in power when a certain event takes place, so they can influence the outcome in favour of the so-called 'amaat' - the hyper-wealthy ruling class and their supporters. Many Thais are very unhappy about this political meddling, largely thanks to the incompetence of the dynamic duo, Dumpy and Grumpy.

In my view, social cohesion in Thailand will continue to fragment until open conflict between political camps breaks out and the matter is resolved once and for all - violently.

I believe this is now less than a year away according to the 'road-map' It will happen shortly before or shortly after the time promised for elections to take place (which I do not believe will ever take place under the current management).

Interesting times for Thailand. Nobody else in the world cares - Thailand is already an almost-pariah-nation.

Winnie

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Thai society is breaking down, as predicted variously since the illegal coup.

Hogwash.

The principle event is not the Coup, but the advent of Digital CCTV, Video Cameras on mobile phones and social media.

These technology changes have enabled the violence that has always been endemic in Thai society to be captured on video and broadcast to the world.

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The nurses stepped in to deal with them but the police officer present stayed in the background and only managed to close the door behind them ( probably wise from a personal safety perspective but a bit odd given his job).

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Classic mob mentality so often seen here. The mob claiming victory of how brave they are in dealing with one person. Sickens me to the core.

To paraphrase a common one.

Most boys need a reason to fight, Thai boys just need a place.

School yards, parks, bus stops, emergency rooms etc etc

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Thai society is breaking down, as predicted variously since the illegal coup.

Hogwash.

The principle event is not the Coup, but the advent of Digital CCTV, Video Cameras on mobile phones and social media.

These technology changes have enabled the violence that has always been endemic in Thai society to be captured on video and broadcast to the world.

"Hogwash"

OK it's hogwash... if you insist and if you know better...

"The principle event is not the Coup, but the advent of Digital CCTV, Video Cameras on mobile phones and social media. "

I don't agree. As I see it, the principle event is more primitive and uncivilised behaviour by Thais.

"These technology changes have enabled the violence that has always been endemic in Thai society to be captured on video and broadcast to the world."

That is certainly true, What was hidden once is not always hidden now. But the problem is not bad publicity, the problem is bad behaviour. Of course you do not think that's relevant and that it's 'hogwash' and that there is no increase in the incidence of bad behaviour and if there is, then it does not necessarily mean that society is disintegrating.

I don't agree with you.

Winnie

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Classic mob mentality so often seen here. The mob claiming victory of how brave they are in dealing with one person. Sickens me to the core.

To paraphrase a common one.

Most boys need a reason to fight, Thai boys just need a place.

School yards, parks, bus stops, emergency rooms etc etc

That is their normal instinct, in common with most males of most species.

Laws exist to modify or restrain primitive and uncivilised behaviour or behaviour which is not conducive to peacable and tolerant society, but Thai laws are rarely enforced, and I doubt this particular incident will not be resolved as required by law. Probably, the fix will go in or appropriate bribery will be applied

So male youths in Thailand are free to follow their most base instincts. It's not only violence, similar examples appear across all facets of human behaviour in Thailand. It all comes back to 2 things,

1. People are not educated properly in the usefulness and function of laws in society.

2. Police take money to enforce the law, and then either don't because they are lazy and feckless, or because they take money not to enforce the law.

It really isn't a difficult issue to understand. I believe that Thai society is gradually falling apart, and I believe this will accelerate over time. And I don't really care, as with all non-natural misfortunes (eg the tsunami) Thailand has encountered, it's done it to itself.

Winnie

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In Queensland, violence against ambos and hospital staff has sparked new laws and an advertising campaign to educate about their effect. Any assault on a health care worker in the course of their duty is punishable by up to 14 years incarceration, and the courts are handing out appropriate sentences. The move has widespread public support. http://statements.qld.gov.au/Statement/2016/3/31/queensland-says-no-to-healthcare-violence

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In Queensland, violence against ambos and hospital staff has sparked new laws and an advertising campaign to educate about their effect. Any assault on a health care worker in the course of their duty is punishable by up to 14 years incarceration, and the courts are handing out appropriate sentences. The move has widespread public support. http://statements.qld.gov.au/Statement/2016/3/31/queensland-says-no-to-healthcare-violence

Good. An example that Thailand could and should learn from, but won't.

One of your better posts, so I replied, in this case, in support.

Winnie

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In Queensland, violence against ambos and hospital staff has sparked new laws and an advertising campaign to educate about their effect. Any assault on a health care worker in the course of their duty is punishable by up to 14 years incarceration, and the courts are handing out appropriate sentences. The move has widespread public support. http://statements.qld.gov.au/Statement/2016/3/31/queensland-says-no-to-healthcare-violence

Good. An example that Thailand could and should learn from, but won't.

One of your better posts, so I replied, in this case, in support.

Winnie

Oh I am thrilled! And such a nice change from bashing Thais and Thailand to fuel your smug sense of superiority.

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In Queensland, violence against ambos and hospital staff has sparked new laws and an advertising campaign to educate about their effect. Any assault on a health care worker in the course of their duty is punishable by up to 14 years incarceration, and the courts are handing out appropriate sentences. The move has widespread public support. http://statements.qld.gov.au/Statement/2016/3/31/queensland-says-no-to-healthcare-violence

Good. An example that Thailand could and should learn from, but won't.

One of your better posts, so I replied, in this case, in support.

Winnie

Oh I am thrilled! And such a nice change from bashing Thais and Thailand to fuel your smug sense of superiority.

That's OK. one pat on the head doth not a summer make, don't take your continued improvement for granted.

Back in your box for now,, I'll call you if I need you.

Winnie

btw. The 'superiority' jibe is only ever made by people who feel inferior. Did you know that?

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To be fair, ER in the UK has it's fair share of violence.

Yes... In the UK it is patents that turn on the staff in ER, or more to the point some who need not be there (drunks and people with mental issues).

And in the UK we have rightly a zero tolerance to any attack on ER staff or anyone else with security staff an often a police presence in ER.

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Classic mob mentality so often seen here. The mob claiming victory of how brave they are in dealing with one person. Sickens me to the core.

To paraphrase a common one.

Most boys need a reason to fight, Thai boys just need a place.

School yards, parks, bus stops, emergency rooms etc etc

That is their normal instinct, in common with most males of most species.

Laws exist to modify or restrain primitive and uncivilised behaviour or behaviour which is not conducive to peacable and tolerant society, but Thai laws are rarely enforced, and I doubt this particular incident will not be resolved as required by law. Probably, the fix will go in or appropriate bribery will be applied

So male youths in Thailand are free to follow their most base instincts. It's not only violence, similar examples appear across all facets of human behaviour in Thailand. It all comes back to 2 things,

1. People are not educated properly in the usefulness and function of laws in society.

2. Police take money to enforce the law, and then either don't because they are lazy and feckless, or because they take money not to enforce the law.

It really isn't a difficult issue to understand. I believe that Thai society is gradually falling apart, and I believe this will accelerate over time. And I don't really care, as with all non-natural misfortunes (eg the tsunami) Thailand has encountered, it's done it to itself.

Winnie

Well yes Winnie, that was rather my point, the social constraints and an adequate punishment systems in other countries reduces the number of these incidents.

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Classic mob mentality so often seen here. The mob claiming victory of how brave they are in dealing with one person. Sickens me to the core.

Jup. chickens... sleep together, eat together, visit waterfall together, sing-a-song together, kick people in the face together.

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10 against 1. Tough guys.

I would love to see one pissed off farang v. one pissed off Thai...it would just make my day...

we spend so much money here, taking care of their unwanted women and children...we pay about 20% more for basic staples such as food and lodging...and we are also targets of the punks on the streets...for me, it's a daily grind that greatly diminishes my appreciation of the nation and people...

eventually, one of us will have had enough, and the circumstances will be in his favor...

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Classic mob mentality so often seen here. The mob claiming victory of how brave they are in dealing with one person. Sickens me to the core.

To paraphrase a common one.

Most boys need a reason to fight, Thai boys just need a place.

School yards, parks, bus stops, emergency rooms etc etc

Too much testosterone and too little control.

It's a maturity thing, most Thais never progress much past the development level of a 12-year-old in Europe. Not PC but it seems to be true enough.

Winnie

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Thai society is breaking down, as predicted variously since the illegal coup.

Hogwash.

The principle event is not the Coup, but the advent of Digital CCTV, Video Cameras on mobile phones and social media.

These technology changes have enabled the violence that has always been endemic in Thai society to be captured on video and broadcast to the world.

"Hogwash"

OK it's hogwash... if you insist and if you know better...

"The principle event is not the Coup, but the advent of Digital CCTV, Video Cameras on mobile phones and social media. "

I don't agree. As I see it, the principle event is more primitive and uncivilised behaviour by Thais.

"These technology changes have enabled the violence that has always been endemic in Thai society to be captured on video and broadcast to the world."

That is certainly true, What was hidden once is not always hidden now. But the problem is not bad publicity, the problem is bad behaviour. Of course you do not think that's relevant and that it's 'hogwash' and that there is no increase in the incidence of bad behaviour and if there is, then it does not necessarily mean that society is disintegrating.

I don't agree with you.

Winnie

I reckon the trouble is they are not disciplined as children but are allowed to do as they want. When they grow up (not many have incidentally) they still believe they can do as they want

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Thai society is breaking down, as predicted variously since the illegal coup.

Hogwash.

The principle event is not the Coup, but the advent of Digital CCTV, Video Cameras on mobile phones and social media.

These technology changes have enabled the violence that has always been endemic in Thai society to be captured on video and broadcast to the world.

"Hogwash"

OK it's hogwash... if you insist and if you know better...

"The principle event is not the Coup, but the advent of Digital CCTV, Video Cameras on mobile phones and social media. "

I don't agree. As I see it, the principle event is more primitive and uncivilised behaviour by Thais.

"These technology changes have enabled the violence that has always been endemic in Thai society to be captured on video and broadcast to the world."

That is certainly true, What was hidden once is not always hidden now. But the problem is not bad publicity, the problem is bad behaviour. Of course you do not think that's relevant and that it's 'hogwash' and that there is no increase in the incidence of bad behaviour and if there is, then it does not necessarily mean that society is disintegrating.

I don't agree with you.

Winnie

I reckon the trouble is they are not disciplined as children but are allowed to do as they want. When they grow up (not many have incidentally) they still believe they can do as they want

Certainly that's a part of the problem. I read a book a while back called 'Culture shock' written by a foreigner and his Thai wife. A paragraph stood out when he wrote that in Thailand, up to the age of about 7, kids can do pretty much as they like.

He seemed to consider that a good thing, I consider it negligence and being feckless.

In Thailand, I believe that ovaries and testicles should come when the owners have passed a competence test. Negative population growth would be the only likely outcome, assuming that any such law was not turned into a bribing opportunity by the police...

Thais will always do exactly what their hormones dictate - not intelligent enough to know any different or to consider the consequences.

W

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10 against 1. Tough guys.

If it was only one-on-one, there would probably not have been any trouble. Thais generally prefer 10 to one. One Thai is a limp-dick. Ten Thais are suddenly all King Naruesans who can attack a single person, especially if they are disabled, a Laos girl or tourist pensioners from Europe.

Thai society is breaking down, as predicted variously since the illegal coup. This is just one more example. Far from 'returning happiness to the people' many Thais are now extremely unhappy, the economy is collapsing and Thailand is fast becoming a pariah nation. Many Thais now understand that the army only wants (and only ever wanted) to be in power when a certain event takes place, so they can influence the outcome in favour of the so-called 'amaat' - the hyper-wealthy ruling class and their supporters. Many Thais are very unhappy about this political meddling, largely thanks to the incompetence of the dynamic duo, Dumpy and Grumpy.

In my view, social cohesion in Thailand will continue to fragment until open conflict between political camps breaks out and the matter is resolved once and for all - violently.

I believe this is now less than a year away according to the 'road-map' It will happen shortly before or shortly after the time promised for elections to take place (which I do not believe will ever take place under the current management).

Interesting times for Thailand. Nobody else in the world cares - Thailand is already an almost-pariah-nation.

Winnie

You are possibly correct, but the onset of open conflict will take place after an imminent event (not connected to elections). After all, that's what the whole coup thing is about - the army wants to be in control when that event happens. So that they can control what happens in the aftermath.

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In Queensland, violence against ambos and hospital staff has sparked new laws and an advertising campaign to educate about their effect. Any assault on a health care worker in the course of their duty is punishable by up to 14 years incarceration, and the courts are handing out appropriate sentences. The move has widespread public support. http://statements.qld.gov.au/Statement/2016/3/31/queensland-says-no-to-healthcare-violence

Good. An example that Thailand could and should learn from, but won't.

One of your better posts, so I replied, in this case, in support.

Winnie

Oh I am thrilled! And such a nice change from bashing Thais and Thailand to fuel your smug sense of superiority.

That's OK. one pat on the head doth not a summer make, don't take your continued improvement for granted.

Back in your box for now,, I'll call you if I need you.

Winnie

btw. The 'superiority' jibe is only ever made by people who feel inferior. Did you know that?

And now ? we start like children again......???!!!

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10 against 1. Tough guys.

If it was only one-on-one, there would probably not have been any trouble. Thais generally prefer 10 to one. One Thai is a limp-dick. Ten Thais are suddenly all King Naruesans who can attack a single person, especially if they are disabled, a Laos girl or tourist pensioners from Europe.

Thai society is breaking down, as predicted variously since the illegal coup. This is just one more example. Far from 'returning happiness to the people' many Thais are now extremely unhappy, the economy is collapsing and Thailand is fast becoming a pariah nation. Many Thais now understand that the army only wants (and only ever wanted) to be in power when a certain event takes place, so they can influence the outcome in favour of the so-called 'amaat' - the hyper-wealthy ruling class and their supporters. Many Thais are very unhappy about this political meddling, largely thanks to the incompetence of the dynamic duo, Dumpy and Grumpy.

In my view, social cohesion in Thailand will continue to fragment until open conflict between political camps breaks out and the matter is resolved once and for all - violently.

I believe this is now less than a year away according to the 'road-map' It will happen shortly before or shortly after the time promised for elections to take place (which I do not believe will ever take place under the current management).

Interesting times for Thailand. Nobody else in the world cares - Thailand is already an almost-pariah-nation.

Winnie

You are possibly correct, but the onset of open conflict will take place after an imminent event (not connected to elections). After all, that's what the whole coup thing is about - the army wants to be in control when that event happens. So that they can control what happens in the aftermath.

As stated:

"Many Thais now understand that the army only wants (and only ever wanted) to be in power when a certain event takes place, so they can influence the outcome in favour of the so-called 'amaat' - the hyper-wealthy ruling class and their supporters. "

It was not my intention to connect the conflict with the event of the elections, rather to express my opinion about the probably timing being close to the time of elections.

If I was not clear then I apologise. 4/10, must try harder...

Winnie

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At our local beer shop the other night i was sitting with the Mrs, two 70 year thai men( we know them well and no one else was there) were discussing an upcoming imminent event and army s reason to be in power, more or less in the open.

First i ever heard such things in 16 years apart from behind closed doors

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