DSI to demand answer from NOB about the conduct of Wat Dhammakaya over the June 16 incident

[snoop1130]

DSI to demand answer from NOB about the conduct of Wat Dhammakaya over the June 16 incident

The Department of Special Investigation will seek an answer from the National Office of Buddhism whether Wat Dhammakaya should be held accountable for the actions of its followers in obstructing DSI officials from carrying out search of the temple on June 16 to locate the abbot, Phra Dhammachayo.

DSI director-general Pol Col Paisit Wongmuang said Monday that representatives of the NOB were involved with DSI officials and the chief monk of Pathum Thani in the failed search and, for that matter, the NOB in its capacity as the enforcer of the monastic law, should be able to judge whether the temple should be faulted for the actions of its followers.

“The NOB should answer to the society whether the incident which occurred in the Wat Dhammakaya was legal or not in accordance with the monastic law,” said the DSI chief, adding that the DSI had fulfilled its legal obligations and would like relevant agencies to fulfil their obligations too.

Pol Col Paisit disclosed that the DSI would wrap up within July 9 three more case files concerning money laundering charges against Mr Sathaporn Wattanasirinkul, S.W. Holding Company Group (Thailand) and Mr Samphan Sermcheep, a lawyer representing Wat Dhammakaya in connection with Klongchan Credit Union Cooperatives.

Meanwhile, the Anti-Money Laundering Office will hold a meeting on Tuesday to consider possible civil lawsuits against those charged with money laundering.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/dsi-demand-answer-nob-conduct-wat-dhammakaya-june-16-incident/

-- Thai PBS 2016-06-20

[The stuttering parrot]

Wrap in within July 9 !

We just haven't pinned down the year.

Waiting for a statement from their famous spokesperson Mr R U Kidding!

[nausea]

Well good on you, give them a real telling off. I'm sure they're quaking in their boots

[Wilsonandson]

Pol Col Paisit disclosed that the DSI would wrap up within July 9 three more case files concerning money laundering charges against Mr Sathaporn Wattanasirinkul, S.W. Holding Company Group (Thailand) and Mr Samphan Sermcheep, a lawyer representing Wat Dhammakaya in connection with Klongchan Credit Union Cooperatives.

So the National Office of Buddhism will clear, eventually the charges against the abbot of Dhammakaya directly and pin the blame of money laundering on the S.W. Holding Company Group and other small fish to fry.

A repeat in history of the previous scandal at the temple.

Or maybe I'm reading this wrong? Because to go ahead and imprison this abbot, tear down the temple is not going to go down well.

I'm just observing like everyone else. I don't know what will happen. Just making a guess.

Hope something positive comes from all this.

[bangrak]

That personal-cult-leader should be afraid, very much so IMO, of course he has a huge following of brainwashed lemmings of over a million in Thailand, including a large part of the Bangkok (new-?)'elite' (probably, in a very Chinese way, falling for the dellusion of an 'opportunity' to pay lots of money to make merit, hoping to buy a seat in the first flying saucer to the next heaven?), but, let's relativate, altogether, families included, that's below 2% of the local population (it's more of a problem with Thais living abroad and practising Buddhism, which have, in a large majority, been 'recuperated' by the overwhelming number of Dhammakaya communities and 'temples' there), as it seems that character is in the end (at last?) 'irritating' more and more people in Thailand, from all sides and levels of society, from all horizons and regions, religious or not, (more...) real and true monks included.

Of course he won't be seen in the open giving an interview to journalists on a walkway in the center of Krung Thep while there's an insurrection ongoing a block away, but Seh Daeng, in all his might of the time, had, too, become 'a liability' for most groups and leaders (living here ...and abroad), and...

I do hope it will not end in such a violent and abrupt way, was it only because I still hope that dangerous manipulator will in the end be caught and brought to Justice, but when not...

So, it might be high time for this (self-declared!) Dr Goebbels' fan to pack light and travel fast, he has many billions waiting for him to spend abroad anyway.

But megalomaniacs, as shown by his ally and friend Thaksin, seem not to be able to enjoy life without their audience, which stupidly grants them their only feeling of relevance!

[bangrak]

Pol Col Paisit disclosed that the DSI would wrap up within July 9 three more case files concerning money laundering charges against Mr Sathaporn Wattanasirinkul, S.W. Holding Company Group (Thailand) and Mr Samphan Sermcheep, a lawyer representing Wat Dhammakaya in connection with Klongchan Credit Union Cooperatives.

So the National Office of Buddhism will clear, eventually the charges against the abbot of Dhammakaya directly and pin the blame of money laundering on the S.W. Holding Company Group and other small fish to fry.

A repeat in history of the previous scandal at the temple.

Or maybe I'm reading this wrong? Because to go ahead and imprison this abbot, tear down the temple is not going to go down well.

I'm just observing like everyone else. I don't know what will happen. Just making a guess.

Hope something positive comes from all this.

Do you still have a problem admitting this personal-cult-leader received and cashed a number of checks in his name for several hundreds of millions? Or is it rather the fact that this (mis-)conduct is not at all suitable for any Buddhist (well, sort of here) monk who should automatically be at once disrobed and locked up in jail, that is 'disturbing' you...?

[Wilsonandson]

That personal-cult-leader should be afraid, very much so IMO, of course he has a huge following of brainwashed lemmings of over a million in Thailand, including a large part of the Bangkok (new-?)'elite' (probably, in a very Chinese way, falling for the dellusion of an 'opportunity' to pay lots of money to make merit, hoping to buy a seat in the first flying saucer to the next heaven?), but, let's relativate, altogether, families included, that's below 2% of the local population (it's more of a problem with Thais living abroad and practising Buddhism, which have, in a large majority, been 'recuperated' by the overwhelming number of Dhammakaya communities and 'temples' there), as it seems that character is in the end (at last?) 'irritating' more and more people in Thailand, from all sides and levels of society, from all horizons and regions, religious or not, (more...) real and true monks included.

Of course he won't be seen in the open giving an interview to journalists on a walkway in the center of Krung Thep while there's an insurrection ongoing a block away, but Seh Daeng, in all his might of the time, had, too, become 'a liability' for most groups and leaders (living here ...and abroad), and...

I do hope it will not end in such a violent and abrupt way, was it only because I still hope that dangerous manipulator will in the end be caught and brought to Justice, but when not...

So, it might be high time for this (self-declared!) Dr Goebbels' fan to pack light and travel fast, he has many billions waiting for him to spend abroad anyway.

But megalomaniacs, as shown by his ally and friend Thaksin, seem not to be able to enjoy life without their audience, which stupidly grants them their only feeling of relevance!

The audience is all that is wanted. If the money was important why is he not in Hawaii now with the other monk?

Also, Thaksin is one of those who have graced the temple grounds, others of different colors have also spent time meditating in wat thammakai. How high up? Check the register.

[bangrak]

That personal-cult-leader should be afraid, very much so IMO, of course he has a huge following of brainwashed lemmings of over a million in Thailand, including a large part of the Bangkok (new-?)'elite' (probably, in a very Chinese way, falling for the dellusion of an 'opportunity' to pay lots of money to make merit, hoping to buy a seat in the first flying saucer to the next heaven?), but, let's relativate, altogether, families included, that's below 2% of the local population (it's more of a problem with Thais living abroad and practising Buddhism, which have, in a large majority, been 'recuperated' by the overwhelming number of Dhammakaya communities and 'temples' there), as it seems that character is in the end (at last?) 'irritating' more and more people in Thailand, from all sides and levels of society, from all horizons and regions, religious or not, (more...) real and true monks included.

Of course he won't be seen in the open giving an interview to journalists on a walkway in the center of Krung Thep while there's an insurrection ongoing a block away, but Seh Daeng, in all his might of the time, had, too, become 'a liability' for most groups and leaders (living here ...and abroad), and...

I do hope it will not end in such a violent and abrupt way, was it only because I still hope that dangerous manipulator will in the end be caught and brought to Justice, but when not...

So, it might be high time for this (self-declared!) Dr Goebbels' fan to pack light and travel fast, he has many billions waiting for him to spend abroad anyway.

But megalomaniacs, as shown by his ally and friend Thaksin, seem not to be able to enjoy life without their audience, which stupidly grants them their only feeling of relevance!

The audience is all that is wanted. If the money was important why is he not in Hawaii now with the other monk?

Also, Thaksin is one of those who have graced the temple grounds, others of different colors have also spent time meditating in wat thammakai. How high up? Check the register.

Is that in your eyes any kind of an excuse for this so-called Buddhist monk not to face the charges duly brought in against him in front of a Court of Justice?

[thesetat2013]

That personal-cult-leader should be afraid, very much so IMO, of course he has a huge following of brainwashed lemmings of over a million in Thailand, including a large part of the Bangkok (new-?)'elite' (probably, in a very Chinese way, falling for the dellusion of an 'opportunity' to pay lots of money to make merit, hoping to buy a seat in the first flying saucer to the next heaven?), but, let's relativate, altogether, families included, that's below 2% of the local population (it's more of a problem with Thais living abroad and practising Buddhism, which have, in a large majority, been 'recuperated' by the overwhelming number of Dhammakaya communities and 'temples' there), as it seems that character is in the end (at last?) 'irritating' more and more people in Thailand, from all sides and levels of society, from all horizons and regions, religious or not, (more...) real and true monks included.

Of course he won't be seen in the open giving an interview to journalists on a walkway in the center of Krung Thep while there's an insurrection ongoing a block away, but Seh Daeng, in all his might of the time, had, too, become 'a liability' for most groups and leaders (living here ...and abroad), and...

I do hope it will not end in such a violent and abrupt way, was it only because I still hope that dangerous manipulator will in the end be caught and brought to Justice, but when not...

So, it might be high time for this (self-declared!) Dr Goebbels' fan to pack light and travel fast, he has many billions waiting for him to spend abroad anyway.

But megalomaniacs, as shown by his ally and friend Thaksin, seem not to be able to enjoy life without their audience, which stupidly grants them their only feeling of relevance!

The audience is all that is wanted. If the money was important why is he not in Hawaii now with the other monk?

Also, Thaksin is one of those who have graced the temple grounds, others of different colors have also spent time meditating in wat thammakai. How high up? Check the register.

How do you know he isn't in Hawaii right now or even sitting at thaks side laughing it up. Noone has been allowed in the temple to see him in the past few weeks and pictures could have been from previous dates. Noone really knows except those inside the temple.

Sorry, I'm just playing the Devils advocate here.

[Wilsonandson]

Pol Col Paisit disclosed that the DSI would wrap up within July 9 three more case files concerning money laundering charges against Mr Sathaporn Wattanasirinkul, S.W. Holding Company Group (Thailand) and Mr Samphan Sermcheep, a lawyer representing Wat Dhammakaya in connection with Klongchan Credit Union Cooperatives.

So the National Office of Buddhism will clear, eventually the charges against the abbot of Dhammakaya directly and pin the blame of money laundering on the S.W. Holding Company Group and other small fish to fry.

A repeat in history of the previous scandal at the temple.

Or maybe I'm reading this wrong? Because to go ahead and imprison this abbot, tear down the temple is not going to go down well.

I'm just observing like everyone else. I don't know what will happen. Just making a guess.

Hope something positive comes from all this.

Do you still have a problem admitting this personal-cult-leader received and cashed a number of checks in his name for several hundreds of millions? Or is it rather the fact that this (mis-)conduct is not at all suitable for any Buddhist (well, sort of here) monk who should automatically be at once disrobed and locked up in jail, that is 'disturbing' you...?

No problem, my opinion is allowed is it not? You have yours and I have mine. If we don't agree on something then we agree to disagree.

I still enjoy your taste in music thats one thing we agree on. I suppose it's all about the way you look at things. Nothing is perfect in life, mistakes happen, those who make it they're mission to destroy and not to forgive and forget are these not the ones who have a sickness?

[SABloke]

So the nob is a member of NOB. :blink:

[Emster23]

So monastic law trumps civil law. Another good reason for separation of church and state, and although Buddhism still not recognized as the state religion, it is the defacto state religion. I am a Buddhist and in no way support any religious tribunal ruling over what are civil crimes. Look at how well Catholic religion has taken care of child abusers....

[biplanebluey]

That personal-cult-leader should be afraid, very much so IMO, of course he has a huge following of brainwashed lemmings of over a million in Thailand, including a large part of the Bangkok (new-?)'elite' (probably, in a very Chinese way, falling for the dellusion of an 'opportunity' to pay lots of money to make merit, hoping to buy a seat in the first flying saucer to the next heaven?), but, let's relativate, altogether, families included, that's below 2% of the local population (it's more of a problem with Thais living abroad and practising Buddhism, which have, in a large majority, been 'recuperated' by the overwhelming number of Dhammakaya communities and 'temples' there), as it seems that character is in the end (at last?) 'irritating' more and more people in Thailand, from all sides and levels of society, from all horizons and regions, religious or not, (more...) real and true monks included.

Of course he won't be seen in the open giving an interview to journalists on a walkway in the center of Krung Thep while there's an insurrection ongoing a block away, but Seh Daeng, in all his might of the time, had, too, become 'a liability' for most groups and leaders (living here ...and abroad), and...

I do hope it will not end in such a violent and abrupt way, was it only because I still hope that dangerous manipulator will in the end be caught and brought to Justice, but when not...

So, it might be high time for this (self-declared!) Dr Goebbels' fan to pack light and travel fast, he has many billions waiting for him to spend abroad anyway.

But megalomaniacs, as shown by his ally and friend Thaksin, seem not to be able to enjoy life without their audience, which stupidly grants them their only feeling of relevance!

The audience is all that is wanted. If the money was important why is he not in Hawaii now with the other monk?

Also, Thaksin is one of those who have graced the temple grounds, others of different colors have also spent time meditating in wat thammakai. How high up? Check the register.

How do you know he isn't in Hawaii right now or even sitting at thaks side laughing it up. Noone has been allowed in the temple to see him in the past few weeks and pictures could have been from previous dates. Noone really knows except those inside the temple.

Sorry, I'm just playing the Devils advocate here.

I have been saying for a long time now that he has flown the country.He is a multi millionaire.He suspected he was to be interrogated a long time ago. He possibly reckoned on losing a hell of a lot of money if he stayed here,and tried to bluff his way out.This is Thailand.The average Thai will try to take a couple of Bt from you,the richer ones will go for the hundreds and then thousands.What this country needs is to get rid of all these Hiso people from political and Religious life who are so totally corrupt ,now put in a Military Govt and get rid of them and give the country a good name and Thailand will be a beautiful place again OOOH sorrry weeee haaaave oooneee.So what the hell are they doing? Why are these people all sitting around wondering what to do.IT'S TOO LATE NOW------- HE'S GONE

[Acharn]

Pol Col Paisit disclosed that the DSI would wrap up within July 9 three more case files concerning money laundering charges against Mr Sathaporn Wattanasirinkul, S.W. Holding Company Group (Thailand) and Mr Samphan Sermcheep, a lawyer representing Wat Dhammakaya in connection with Klongchan Credit Union Cooperatives.

So the National Office of Buddhism will clear, eventually the charges against the abbot of Dhammakaya directly and pin the blame of money laundering on the S.W. Holding Company Group and other small fish to fry.

A repeat in history of the previous scandal at the temple.

Or maybe I'm reading this wrong? Because to go ahead and imprison this abbot, tear down the temple is not going to go down well.

I'm just observing like everyone else. I don't know what will happen. Just making a guess.

Hope something positive comes from all this.

Do you still have a problem admitting this personal-cult-leader received and cashed a number of checks in his name for several hundreds of millions? Or is it rather the fact that this (mis-)conduct is not at all suitable for any Buddhist (well, sort of here) monk who should automatically be at once disrobed and locked up in jail, that is 'disturbing' you...?

I haven't been following this case, because he ended up exonerated in previous similar cases. Do you have a link to the news stories where evidence of him receiving and signing checks payable to him personally was published? I use the plural "stories" because I would like to see the difference between how BKK Post and The Nation report it. If you only have references to Thai language publications I'd still like to see if I can puzzle out what they're saying. Is there some evidence other than press releases from DSI? Not that I consider them corrupt or biased or incompetent or anything. If you don't have a link handy, just tell me the names of the publications and the approximate dates and I'll try to find them myself. Hundreds of millions of baht would be real money.