webfact Posted June 29, 2016 Posted June 29, 2016 Fourth list of suspected corrupt officials sent to governmentBANGKOK: -- A list of the fourth group of government officials suspected of involvement in corruption has been submitted to the government, Justice Minister Paiboon Kumchaya disclosed on Wednesday.In his capacity as chairman of the National Directorate of Corruption Suppression, General Paiboon said he didn’t know how many officials were in the list but was confident that the list was correct and the 4-5 agencies which undertook the investigation had obtained sufficient evidences against them.Asked about the City Hall’s 39 million baht “lighting tunnel” project which was investigated by the Office of the Auditor-General, the justice minister admitted that he had not received a file of the case from the OAG.He also said that he didn’t know whether the case was included in the new list of suspected corruption cases.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/170613-2/ -- Thai PBS 2016-06-30
NongKhaiKid Posted June 29, 2016 Posted June 29, 2016 The first list resulted in a few sideways moves and that was about all, since then there's been silence so will it be any different with this fourth list ? Does the govt actually intend doing anything substantial with these lists or is having the black on some people enough to be going on with plus knowing the situation surrounding friends and cronies ?
Alive Posted June 29, 2016 Posted June 29, 2016 I just want Prayuth, Prawit, and Paiboon to make lists of all the people who they personally had corruption charges against prior to taking over the nation. They've been holding high offices in the military for a long time so they should have personally submitted names to the authorities in that time. They should have fired and jailed people under their power just from their personal discovery of corruption. It shouldn't have taken scandals in the media for them to get names. They've deal with endless funds from the Thai government and supervised thousands of men under their power. Thailand including its military is rampant with corruption. The Pm and friends should show us their history of honesty while working as generals. Lets see the lists from their long careers so we can go out and stop corruption. Give us some inspiration!
Assurancetourix Posted June 29, 2016 Posted June 29, 2016 Maybe, it's only a " farang " suggestion , it should be easier to make a list of non corrupt officials ; it will be very short , I think ( or " me think " if I write thai-english )
shirtless Posted June 29, 2016 Posted June 29, 2016 These so called lists dont seem to lead to arrests , so shut up about your war on corruption .
ezzra Posted June 29, 2016 Posted June 29, 2016 Wouldn't be a lot easier to prepare a list of uncorrupt officials? that list will be a lot shorter and with far fewer names on it.....
selftaopath Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Corruption starts at the top then filters down. True and convictions of corruption start at the bottom. Thai balance? :-)
Emster23 Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Wouldn't be a lot easier to prepare a list of uncorrupt officials? that list will be a lot shorter and with far fewer names on it..... Maybe they could get one of those old dot matrix printers with the accordion fold paper, just start printing up continuous list of those on government salary (I won't call them "workers" as that implies work being done). Install next to corruption office just keep it going day and night. On further thought, probably a bank of those required.....
Alive Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 If Prayuth could just give one name of someone he brought up on corruption charges while in the military prior to taking over the nation! Just one person he sent to face charges for corruption while in the military. One corrupt coworker he called out when he was lower in the ranks? Nothing? No surprise.
worgeordie Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 " he didn’t know how many officials were in the list but was confident that the list was correct" . "He also said that he didn’t know whether the case was included in the new list of suspected corruption cases." For a justice minister ,he does not seem to know much ! regards Worgeordie
Deez Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Instead of handing over ONE list with everyone on it, they divide into multiple lists so it looks like they are always working. Each "list" will be end with the same result. Nothing
MikeTexas Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 You can't throw a fish at the government, at any level, without hitting someone corrupt.
american12bthai Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 "I understand lists better than probably anybody. I know how to deal with lists very well. I love lists-- but you know, lists are tricky and are dangerous, and you have to be careful and you have to know what you're doing."
Winniedapu Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 How many of the people on the fist 3 lists been prosecuted and sent to prison? What's the Thai for 'showboating'? What's the Thai for "I'll scratch your back and look away if you fatten my wallet'? Winnie
Lupatria Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 And as a result there will be a second rainy season this year: when it rains inactive posts.
tuanku Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 " he didn’t know how many officials were in the list but was confident that the list was correct" . "He also said that he didn’t know whether the case was included in the new list of suspected corruption cases." For a justice minister ,he does not seem to know much ! regards Worgeordie Know nothing, do nothing - the safest form of ministerial self protection.
phoenixdoglover Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 " he didn’t know how many officials were in the list but was confident that the list was correct" . "He also said that he didn’t know whether the case was included in the new list of suspected corruption cases." For a justice minister ,he does not seem to know much ! regards Worgeordie In the divine order of things, his ignorance is of no concern to you and me. As foreigners, we are at a lower level. We are to accept his assurances, offer him an extra deep wai, and spread the word of his wisdom and generosity. By doing so, we build confidence in our leaders, and we support the peace and order so essential to the great nation. If you would like to know more, simply google Farang Attitude Realignment Training, or visit our web site at www.fart.org.
Alive Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 You can't throw a fish at the government, at any level, without hitting someone corrupt. A while back, someone created a video game where you could throw a shoe at George Bush. If you could make a game for Thailand with that fish of yours, it would be a hit!
williamgeorgeallen Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 better not say how many are on the list as some of them may be prepared to pay a large fee to be taken off the list.
hdkane Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 a list of corrupt officials in thailand? why don't you just save time and give the justice department a phone book...
elgordo38 Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 The first list resulted in a few sideways moves and that was about all, since then there's been silence so will it be any different with this fourth list ? Does the govt actually intend doing anything substantial with these lists or is having the black on some people enough to be going on with plus knowing the situation surrounding friends and cronies ? We know who you are and we are coming for you!! Oh please give me a break. All I need is the bank account for the government welfare fund. I will do an immediate transfer. OK once your deposit is confirmed your name will be stricken off of the list.
jaaaason Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Interesting that this is the fourth list, has anyone yet heard of the outcome of any of the previous lists? Seems someone gets the lists,then moves a few to inactive posts and probably receive the fabled brown envelope....If they announce these lists they should announce the outcome...
ggt Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 A more effective way of handling this would be to provide a short list of non-corrupt officials...and arrest all the rest..
marcusd Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Corruption starts at the top then filters down. I agree. THE VERY VERY TOP. How does corruption get so entrenched at the highest levels? NO ONE at the TOP of the Tree can deny or escape this. This is NOT a wealthy country by world standards, wiki and all that, so how does a few families gain so much money. CORRUPTION and that is why Thailand is in the news for all the hoo haa over Slave trading, illegal fishing and people and scams. All of it combined. Shame on the people NOW saying they want to clean it up as look at them? Smart as a pin and looking nice with mouths that spew sewer for words
ezythai Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 Find corruption easy Dont they have a computer system that cross checks home prices, registered cars with income. Assets vs income. Are they really that stupid.
Winniedapu Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 Corruption starts at the top then filters down. I agree. THE VERY VERY TOP. How does corruption get so entrenched at the highest levels? NO ONE at the TOP of the Tree can deny or escape this. This is NOT a wealthy country by world standards, wiki and all that, so how does a few families gain so much money. CORRUPTION and that is why Thailand is in the news for all the hoo haa over Slave trading, illegal fishing and people and scams. All of it combined. Shame on the people NOW saying they want to clean it up as look at them? Smart as a pin and looking nice with mouths that spew sewer for words They use the same proven system that the mafia uses in the USA and Europe. The Commission awards franchises or concessions based on bids of up-front 'donations' and ongoing percentages of the take. If you want to open a business, you have to get permission and negotiate the percentage. Guaranteed no competition for the price of an up-front 'donation' and an ongoing share of the booty. It's a big business just to count a trillion baht. Just think... 1.75 trillion baht with nary a single day's hard work involved. Good innit? They should copyright it. Winnie
Winniedapu Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 Find corruption easy Dont they have a computer system that cross checks home prices, registered cars with income. Assets vs income. Are they really that stupid. Probably a bit, but hey, why change a system that works? Winnie
BSJ Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 From the action on lists 1, 2 & 3 I'd say the PM will be taking his time mulling over which of the little fish will be sacrificed.....punished.
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