Finnish National Found Hanged in South Pattaya

rooster59 · August 5, 2016

Finnish National Found Hanged in South Pattaya

Story by Albert Jack

PATTAYA:-- At 5.30pm, on the afternoon of August 5, Pattaya Police were called to the scene of a suspected suicide by hanging.

At a house in Suksabai Village, Soi Korpai, which runs between Thepprasit Road and Pattaya South, the body of Finnish national Jari Olavi Heikkinen has been found hanging from a bathroom door with a white nylon rope.

A small stool way laying nearby and there were no signs of a struggle or robbery.

Mr Heikkinen’s girlfriend, who has not been named, told officers that she had last seen him at midday, lying drunk by the pool.

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catman20 · August 6, 2016

another quality expat RIP

ClutchClark · August 6, 2016

7 minutes ago, catman20 said:

another quality expat RIP

He might have been a quality expat.

You can't blame a guy for getting quite sauced when planning to hang himself in his bathroom later that day.

chicowoodduck · August 6, 2016

He was pushed....RIP..?

OMGImInPattaya · August 6, 2016

Soi Korpai...nuff said.

starchild5 · August 6, 2016

Instead of saying Pushed for every Farang Death. Its high time, people look into the real cause of it.

Why are then Indians not doing it, when they are the lowest common denominator for girls to hang out with and not much to do when they go back home?

What about Japanese, Africans, Chinese?

1. Why 90% of farangs are been "Pushed" when they are physically more stronger, can handle alcohol better than Asians and came from a developed country which provides social security.

2. Why farangs trust bar girls so easily..When they have high IQ compared to other countries and people from developed countries are suppose to be Logical and Rational before making a decision, which is what makes their country developed.

3. If they are drinking too much...One needs to ask WHY? Why they do not care for their own health?

4. If they trust a bar girl and she pushes him ...Why are they not doing research before coming to a third world country. They are from First world, they are supposed to be smart and educated.

This is same as..If Thailand was so bad..Why Farangs do VISA RUNS

Is it so bad back home that..They do not really care about health, wealth and life anymore? They got nothing to lose?

This being Pushed does not hold any ground for Farangs as an excuse when they are educated, have high IQ, have good social security back home.

Don't pin it on bar girls ....Those days are over....If you are been pushed...ITS YOUR FAULT...sorry but true.

There is overwhelming proof, evidence from past 10 years that, you have 90% of chance been pushed...

THE QUESTION THAT I NEED ANSWER TO IS...

Why are Farang's....who have high IQ and educated..Ignoring these facts...WHY? Please answer...

Edited August 6, 2016 by starchild5

SOTIRIOS · August 6, 2016

....I guess her word is gold...upstanding citizen.....

...case closed....

SOTIRIOS · August 6, 2016

...don't our governments give a d*mn in the least....???

...surely he was not penniless when he came here.....

...nobody wants to hear the ugly details though...bad for the image.....

...just a stereotypical statement and all is done.....

...every death warrants a thorough investigation......

Edited August 6, 2016 by SOTIRIOS

chiang mai · August 6, 2016

32 minutes ago, starchild5 said:

Instead of saying Pushed for every Farang Death. Its high time, people look into the real cause of it.

Why are then Indians not doing it, when they are the lowest common denominator for girls to hang out with and not much to do when they go back home?

What about Japanese, Africans, Chinese?

1. Why 90% of farangs are been "Pushed" when they are physically more stronger, can handle alcohol better than Asians and came from a developed country which provides social security.

2. Why farangs trust bar girls so easily..When they have high IQ compared to other countries and people from developed countries are suppose to be Logical and Rational before making a decision, which is what makes their country developed.

3. If they are drinking too much...One needs to ask WHY? Why they do not care for their own health?

4. If they trust a bar girl and she pushes him ...Why are they not doing research before coming to a third world country. They are from First world, they are supposed to be smart and educated.

This is same as..If Thailand was so bad..Why Farangs do VISA RUNS

Is it so bad back home that..They do not really care about health, wealth and life anymore? They got nothing to lose?

This being Pushed does not hold any ground for Farangs as an excuse when they are educated, have high IQ, have good social security back home.

Don't pin it on bar girls ....Those days are over....If you are been pushed...ITS YOUR FAULT...sorry but true.

There is overwhelming proof, evidence from past 10 years that, you have 90% of chance been pushed...

THE QUESTION THAT I NEED ANSWER TO IS...

Why are Farang's....who have high IQ and educated..Ignoring these facts...WHY? Please answer...

"There is overwhelming proof, evidence from past 10 years that, you have 90% of chance been pushed..."

Please post details of that evidence so that we may all assess, a link to a credible source containing that evidence will suffice.

stephenterry · August 6, 2016

Possibly, he came here to regenerate his lost 'happiness' for whatever reason he left behind. It is possibly a truism that after the initial glitter has washed off, leaving behind a life just as bad (i.e. the reality) it causes many men to become depressed, and turn to whatever narcotic that can soothe them. Once the 'hit' has worn-off, some take it to the ultimate by stopping their world and getting off.

While the above 'statistic' is questionable, and probably cannot be proven, the logic behind the 'pushed' motivation is undeniable (because of the number of male deaths from countries that do have supporting official and medical help for those unfortunates).

In other words, a 'straw poll' among living members on here would probably result in similar results.

RIP.

Edited August 6, 2016 by stephenterry
addition to text.

Thaidream · August 6, 2016

Thailand is a magnet for mentally ill people as it's reputation is such that all those things you may want to do back home and can't can be done in Thailand. Many mentally ill people are taking medication for their illness but one of the side effects is impotence. They come to Thailand, stop taking the medication. end up with a 'girlfriend'- however without the medication the demons come back and the end result is suicide. RIP.

chiang mai · August 6, 2016

9 minutes ago, stephenterry said:

Possibly, he came here to regenerate his lost 'happiness' for whatever reason he left behind. It is possibly a truism that after the initial glitter has washed off, leaving behind a life just as bad (i.e. the reality) it causes many men to become depressed, and turn to whatever narcotic that can soothe them. Once the 'hit' has worn-off, some take it to the ultimate by stopping their world and getting off.

While the above 'statistic' is questionable, and probably cannot be proven, the logic behind the 'pushed' motivation is undeniable (because of the number of male deaths from countries that do have supporting official and medical help for those unfortunates).

In other words, a 'straw poll' among living members on here would probably result in similar results.

RIP.

Purely conjecture and unproven supposition, on par with bar stool gossip.

chiang mai · August 6, 2016

2 minutes ago, Thaidream said:

Thailand is a magnet for mentally ill people as it's reputation is such that all those things you may want to do back home and can't can be done in Thailand. Many mentally ill people are taking medication for their illness but one of the side effects is impotence. They come to Thailand, stop taking the medication. end up with a 'girlfriend'- however without the medication the demons come back and the end result is suicide. RIP.

Don't suppose you've got any verifiable facts to support those claims? Or were you simply supposing!

ClutchClark · August 6, 2016

1 hour ago, chicowoodduck said:

He was pushed....RIP..?

I have yet to meet a Thai big enough to push me to my death.

Fact.

ClutchClark · August 6, 2016

5 minutes ago, Thaidream said:

Thailand is a magnet for mentally ill people as it's reputation is such that all those things you may want to do back home and can't can be done in Thailand. Many mentally ill people are taking medication for their illness but one of the side effects is impotence. They come to Thailand, stop taking the medication. end up with a 'girlfriend'- however without the medication the demons come back and the end result is suicide. RIP.

Interesting hypothesis.

Thaidream · August 6, 2016

I know some American and British therapist who do psychologically counselling in Thailand and they informed me of this. They stated it was quite prevalent. Of course , their job is to help people not end up as a suicide.

Bangkok Barry · August 6, 2016

57 minutes ago, starchild5 said:

Instead of saying Pushed for every Farang Death. Its high time, people look into the real cause of it.

Why are then Indians not doing it, when they are the lowest common denominator for girls to hang out with and not much to do when they go back home?

What about Japanese, Africans, Chinese?

1. Why 90% of farangs are been "Pushed" when they are physically more stronger, can handle alcohol better than Asians and came from a developed country which provides social security.

2. Why farangs trust bar girls so easily..When they have high IQ compared to other countries and people from developed countries are suppose to be Logical and Rational before making a decision, which is what makes their country developed.

3. If they are drinking too much...One needs to ask WHY? Why they do not care for their own health?

4. If they trust a bar girl and she pushes him ...Why are they not doing research before coming to a third world country. They are from First world, they are supposed to be smart and educated.

This is same as..If Thailand was so bad..Why Farangs do VISA RUNS

Is it so bad back home that..They do not really care about health, wealth and life anymore? They got nothing to lose?

This being Pushed does not hold any ground for Farangs as an excuse when they are educated, have high IQ, have good social security back home.

Don't pin it on bar girls ....Those days are over....If you are been pushed...ITS YOUR FAULT...sorry but true.

There is overwhelming proof, evidence from past 10 years that, you have 90% of chance been pushed...

THE QUESTION THAT I NEED ANSWER TO IS...

Why are Farang's....who have high IQ and educated..Ignoring these facts...WHY? Please answer...

Why do you repeatedly mention bar girls when that has nothing to do with the report? WHY? Please answer...

chiang mai · August 6, 2016

I have several hypotheses, unpopular perhaps and not as exciting as some, but worth considering nevertheless:

1) that the suicide rate among expats in Thailand is very similar to the suicide rate in their home countries

2) suicide as a result of significant illness is not uncommon.

3) suicide resulting from loss of wealth, by whatever means, is also not uncommon.

Johnniey · August 6, 2016

3 hours ago, catman20 said:

another quality expat RIP

What an absolutely disgusting, inappropriate and inhumane thing to say. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Condolences to the family. I lived in Finland once and know the high level of depression there.

chiang mai · August 6, 2016

1 minute ago, Johnniey said:

What an absolutely disgusting, inappropriate and inhumane thing to say. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Condolences to the family. I lived in Finland once and know the high level of depression there.

An excellent point, the suicides rates resulting from depression in Finland and Scandinavian are much higher than the norm.

Redline · August 6, 2016

2 hours ago, starchild5 said:

Instead of saying Pushed for every Farang Death. Its high time, people look into the real cause of it.

Why are then Indians not doing it, when they are the lowest common denominator for girls to hang out with and not much to do when they go back home?

What about Japanese, Africans, Chinese?

1. Why 90% of farangs are been "Pushed" when they are physically more stronger, can handle alcohol better than Asians and came from a developed country which provides social security.

2. Why farangs trust bar girls so easily..When they have high IQ compared to other countries and people from developed countries are suppose to be Logical and Rational before making a decision, which is what makes their country developed.

3. If they are drinking too much...One needs to ask WHY? Why they do not care for their own health?

4. If they trust a bar girl and she pushes him ...Why are they not doing research before coming to a third world country. They are from First world, they are supposed to be smart and educated.

This is same as..If Thailand was so bad..Why Farangs do VISA RUNS

Is it so bad back home that..They do not really care about health, wealth and life anymore? They got nothing to lose?

This being Pushed does not hold any ground for Farangs as an excuse when they are educated, have high IQ, have good social security back home.

Don't pin it on bar girls ....Those days are over....If you are been pushed...ITS YOUR FAULT...sorry but true.

There is overwhelming proof, evidence from past 10 years that, you have 90% of chance been pushed...

THE QUESTION THAT I NEED ANSWER TO IS...

Why are Farang's....who have high IQ and educated..Ignoring these facts...WHY? Please answer...

I think it needs to be looked at why these people chose to spend time in Thailand, or why they choose to live here. Also, love and lust has nothing to do with being smart. Lastly, a percentage of these are set up to look like suicides, but are murders or cover ups in order to not affect the tourist numbers. No easy answers

F4UCorsair · August 6, 2016

Pushed off a balcony I understand.

Pushed off a stool with a rope around his neck?? Who put the rope there? Who climbed on the stool? Presumably he did those two actions himself, so had the intent of killing himself.

Suradit69 · August 6, 2016

2 hours ago, SOTIRIOS said:

....I guess her word is gold...upstanding citizen.....

...case closed....

There was never any question as to who the guilty party is here at the Bar Stool Crime Scene Investigator's (BS-CSI) headquarters. Obviously some diminutive Thai lady tied a rope around his neck, lifted him onto a stool while affixing the rope to the door and then knocked the stool out from under him. Or are we day dreaming about some band of conspirators collaborating.

There should be a TV Survey asking how many members believe in UFOs, Big Foot and the Easter Bunny.

Suradit69 · August 6, 2016

26 minutes ago, Redline said:

I think it needs to be looked at why these people chose to spend time in Thailand, or why they choose to live here. Also, love and lust has nothing to do with being smart. Lastly, a percentage of these are set up to look like suicides, but are murders or cover ups in order to not affect the tourist numbers. No easy answers

" cover ups in order to not affect the tourist numbers "

Yes because tourists would flock here if they believed that a fairly high number of tourists get blind drunk and hang themselves.

smotherb · August 6, 2016

3 hours ago, starchild5 said:

Instead of saying Pushed for every Farang Death. Its high time, people look into the real cause of it.

Why are then Indians not doing it, when they are the lowest common denominator for girls to hang out with and not much to do when they go back home?

What about Japanese, Africans, Chinese?

1. Why 90% of farangs are been "Pushed" when they are physically more stronger, can handle alcohol better than Asians and came from a developed country which provides social security.

2. Why farangs trust bar girls so easily..When they have high IQ compared to other countries and people from developed countries are suppose to be Logical and Rational before making a decision, which is what makes their country developed.

3. If they are drinking too much...One needs to ask WHY? Why they do not care for their own health?

4. If they trust a bar girl and she pushes him ...Why are they not doing research before coming to a third world country. They are from First world, they are supposed to be smart and educated.

This is same as..If Thailand was so bad..Why Farangs do VISA RUNS

Is it so bad back home that..They do not really care about health, wealth and life anymore? They got nothing to lose?

This being Pushed does not hold any ground for Farangs as an excuse when they are educated, have high IQ, have good social security back home.

Don't pin it on bar girls ....Those days are over....If you are been pushed...ITS YOUR FAULT...sorry but true.

There is overwhelming proof, evidence from past 10 years that, you have 90% of chance been pushed...

THE QUESTION THAT I NEED ANSWER TO IS...

Why are Farang's....who have high IQ and educated..Ignoring these facts...WHY? Please answer...

Lack of common sense. A high IQ enables a person to understand many things, an education develops those things into specific areas of knowledge; neither guarantee you could figure your way out of a closet. Existing under the impression that your place and culture of origin is somehow superior and more developed than others, is the epitome of lack of common sense.

gdgbb · August 6, 2016

4 hours ago, starchild5 said:

Instead of saying Pushed for every Farang Death. Its high time, people look into the real cause of it.

Why are then Indians not doing it, when they are the lowest common denominator for girls to hang out with and not much to do when they go back home?

What about Japanese, Africans, Chinese?

1. Why 90% of farangs are been "Pushed" when they are physically more stronger, can handle alcohol better than Asians and came from a developed country which provides social security.

2. Why farangs trust bar girls so easily..When they have high IQ compared to other countries and people from developed countries are suppose to be Logical and Rational before making a decision, which is what makes their country developed.

3. If they are drinking too much...One needs to ask WHY? Why they do not care for their own health?

4. If they trust a bar girl and she pushes him ...Why are they not doing research before coming to a third world country. They are from First world, they are supposed to be smart and educated.

This is same as..If Thailand was so bad..Why Farangs do VISA RUNS

Is it so bad back home that..They do not really care about health, wealth and life anymore? They got nothing to lose?

This being Pushed does not hold any ground for Farangs as an excuse when they are educated, have high IQ, have good social security back home.

Don't pin it on bar girls ....Those days are over....If you are been pushed...ITS YOUR FAULT...sorry but true.

There is overwhelming proof, evidence from past 10 years that, you have 90% of chance been pushed...

THE QUESTION THAT I NEED ANSWER TO IS...

Why are Farang's....who have high IQ and educated..Ignoring these facts...WHY? Please answer...

Facts? What facts?

" There is overwhelming proof, evidence from past 10 years that, you have 90% of chance been pushed... "

Let's see that proof then.

Docno · August 6, 2016

5 hours ago, starchild5 said:

Instead of saying Pushed for every Farang Death. Its high time, people look into the real cause of it.

Why are then Indians not doing it, when they are the lowest common denominator for girls to hang out with and not much to do when they go back home?

What about Japanese, Africans, Chinese?

1. Why 90% of farangs are been "Pushed" when they are physically more stronger, can handle alcohol better than Asians and came from a developed country which provides social security.

2. Why farangs trust bar girls so easily..When they have high IQ compared to other countries and people from developed countries are suppose to be Logical and Rational before making a decision, which is what makes their country developed.

3. If they are drinking too much...One needs to ask WHY? Why they do not care for their own health?

4. If they trust a bar girl and she pushes him ...Why are they not doing research before coming to a third world country. They are from First world, they are supposed to be smart and educated.

This is same as..If Thailand was so bad..Why Farangs do VISA RUNS

Is it so bad back home that..They do not really care about health, wealth and life anymore? They got nothing to lose?

This being Pushed does not hold any ground for Farangs as an excuse when they are educated, have high IQ, have good social security back home.

Don't pin it on bar girls ....Those days are over....If you are been pushed...ITS YOUR FAULT...sorry but true.

There is overwhelming proof, evidence from past 10 years that, you have 90% of chance been pushed...

THE QUESTION THAT I NEED ANSWER TO IS...

Why are Farang's....who have high IQ and educated..Ignoring these facts...WHY? Please answer...

If a Japanese, African, Indian, or Chinese commits suicide here, does it even get reported on ThaiVisa? TV is a filter on reality...

Edited August 6, 2016 by Docno

dunroaming · August 6, 2016

The theorists are out in force!. An awful lot of hot air but TIT and anything could be true. Like most incidents it is unlikely that the facts will ever emerge.

Thechook · August 6, 2016

20 hours ago, catman20 said:

another quality expat RIP

I hope people that don't know you pass the same judgement on you when the time comes. He may very well have been a nice guy.

Edited August 6, 2016 by Thechook

zoza · August 6, 2016

it is a fact that there is a lot of people here who have mental issues

it is also a fact that there are a lot of expats who die here

it is also a fact that some deaths get put down as suicide when they are not

the trick is finding which is which and not putting all of them together

RIP the fin.

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