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Non Imm O, based on retirement and State pension (Not an OA)

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Hi Folks, I have a UK passport with a Non Imm O, based on retirement and State pensions (not an OA). The visa "enter before" date is October 1st. 2016. I will be going to Poipet Sept. 4 2016, in order to comply with the "admitted until" IO passport stamp. My question is,  can I extend the Non O for more than 90 days come December 4th, or is it not possible to extend my type of visa?

Thanks in advance.

You can extend by 12 months if you qualify financially.

You can extend by 12 months or 60 days if you have a Thai family.

You could apply for a one year extension of stay based upon retirement during the last 30 days of your 90 day entry from your visa.

You would need 800k baht in the bank for 60 days or proof of 65k baht income or a combination of the two totaling 800k baht.

 

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Hey that's good news, thanks! How far away from the December 4th date can I apply e.g. can I apply in November? I do qualify financially, and what evidence will the British Gov't require to give me a letter?

You can apply up to 30 days before. 45 days at some offices.

The Embassy will just require proof of your income.

Apply by post and pay a rather large fee.

Just now, PeCeDe said:

Hey that's good news, thanks! How far away from the December 4th date can I apply e.g. can I apply in November? I do qualify financially, and what evidence will the British Gov't require to give me a letter?

You can apply for the extension on or after November 3rd up to the 3rd of December.

Info on getting the income letter from the UK embassy can be found here. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/how-to-obtain-a-pensionincome-letter-for-thai-immigration

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Thanks, I understand the US Embassy, take "self affirmation" of income as proof enough, is that correct?  The proving of my income is a bit of a pain. If the UK Government won't take the self affirmation I suppose I can use my US passport and go to the US Embassy?

Not if you are using a UK passport for entry into Thailand.  FYI:  immigration can ask for supporting documents for any letter income and false information on a US letter would be a US Federal Offence if push came to shove.  Not likely but not something most people would want to risk.  

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Proving my income could be a stumbling block, not because I don't want the Gov't to see it, but because it's complex. When I applied in the UK I got my current Non Imm, by just showing my State pension (they were not concerned about how much it was) and birth date on my passport, I wonder why they would now want to see how much I earn? When all is said and done, and I manage to prove my income to the Embassy I may as well get a retirement OA, is that correct?

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Thanks Lopburi, I learned a long time ago not to lie to the Government, they have long memories.

The pension paperwork was a condition for issue of a non immigrant O visa - not for OA or extension of stay from immigration.  For that you need an income of 65k per month or 800k in bank account two months or a combination to meet 800k per year.  

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Yes, I understand that Lopburi, but not having to prove my income during the original issue of my Non Imm O in the UK, was based on only age and having a State pension, regardless of my income, that is why I went that route.

23 minutes ago, PeCeDe said:

Proving my income could be a stumbling block, not because I don't want the Gov't to see it, but because it's complex. When I applied in the UK I got my current Non Imm, by just showing my State pension (they were not concerned about how much it was) and birth date on my passport, I wonder why they would now want to see how much I earn? When all is said and done, and I manage to prove my income to the Embassy I may as well get a retirement OA, is that correct?

As said the requirements to get the non-o visa in the UK are different than those for a OA visa or an extension at immigration. 

I don't think it will not be that hard to prove an income of 65k baht to the UK embassy. They have been reported as being flexible and will accept bank statements showing the income going into your account. There is no requirement for it to be only pension income.

24 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

The pension paperwork was a condition for issue of a non immigrant O visa - not for OA or extension of stay from immigration.  For that you need an income of 65k per month or 800k in bank account two months or a combination to meet 800k per year.  

Don't you need to show this for the initial visa except it doesn't have to be "aged"?

That is a UK requirement by the Thai Embassy there for Consulates to issue non immigrant O visa - some others countries will want paperwork showing income or savings - normally for retirement you are expected to request and obtain a non immigrant O-A visa which requires proof of income and medical.  

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Yes, Lopburi, Ubonjoe I now understand the situation. Thanks

 

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