Agent Sumo Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 10 hours ago, Bluespunk said: My problem is that the "this happens everywhere" brigade are as blinded by their obsessive need to defend all things Thai are as bad as the bashers. No that's not it at all but when people with a siege mentality use moronic exaggeration to describe the country as the LOS - Land of Stabbings - you have to point out and laugh at their ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winniedapu Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 48 minutes ago, Agent Sumo said: No that's not it at all but when people with a siege mentality use moronic exaggeration to describe the country as the LOS - Land of Stabbings - you have to point out and laugh at their ignorance. An acronym, like lots of others. It is no more or less valuable than the equally false LOS - Land of Smiles. Winnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooHaa Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 festival of asinine comments as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clamhua Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Agent Sumo said: No that's not it at all but when people with a siege mentality use moronic exaggeration to describe the country as the LOS - Land of Stabbings - you have to point out and laugh at their ignorance. LOS Land of Stupid reactions asinine behaviour...Land of Silly walks...really "siege mentality" maybe the press should not report them and then we can believe Thailand is once again the Land Of Smiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 3 hours ago, Agent Sumo said: No that's not it at all but when people with a siege mentality use moronic exaggeration to describe the country as the LOS - Land of Stabbings - you have to point out and laugh at their ignorance. I agree but the ''this happens everywhere'' mentality is no better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Sumo Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: I agree but the ''this happens everywhere'' mentality is no better. How do you work that out? It's totally valid when people try to make out that Thailand is somehow more deserving of a description like "Land of Stabbings" than any number of countries around the world that have a far worse reputation for violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevvy Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) I rather live in this country than other countries . There is violence in all countries , some more than others . I feel safe here .. Edited August 22, 2016 by kevvy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonuk Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 On 21 August 2016 at 3:19 AM, C5VETTE said: Shocked just because the don't understand Thainess Thats not Thainess. When i was 16 i stood on someones foot in a night club in Bristol The guy smashed a bottle over my head and in the fight that followed my friend was stabbed. Not everything bad that the Thais do is because they are Thai. Sometimes its because they are human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 1 hour ago, simonuk said: Thats not Thainess. When i was 16 i stood on someones foot in a night club in Bristol The guy smashed a bottle over my head and in the fight that followed my friend was stabbed. Not everything bad that the Thais do is because they are Thai. Sometimes its because they are human. Human, or drunk. Like most of these stories, yours took place in or right in front of a bar. Or on the path that makes up a bar crawl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winniedapu Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 1 hour ago, simonuk said: Thats not Thainess. When i was 16 i stood on someones foot in a night club in Bristol The guy smashed a bottle over my head and in the fight that followed my friend was stabbed. Not everything bad that the Thais do is because they are Thai. Sometimes its because they are human. Any other excuses you'd like to make for the poor luvvies? They do what they do because they are under-intelligent, under-educated, lack principles and have little empathy with other people (all adding up to IQ and EQ). All these things are related and boil down to neglect and exploitation of the people by their governments over a long period of time and this government is no different except it is probably the worst in living memory. The same applies to all 'developing' (read 3rd-world) countries, many in Africa, and many used to be in South and Central America, also in Asia. The crime rate in Thailand is offensive to people in or from more developed countries, and it frankly doesn't help when someone who's been here for 10 minutes and still hasn't washed the stars out of their eyes comes along and tells us all is well and beautiful when it demonstrably isn't and demonstrably should be a lot better but for the muppets that these people elect to manage them. Bangkok's crime rate is more than twice that of England and Wales, also higher than Northern Ireland and Scotland. https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/nov/30/new-york-crime-free-day-deadliest-cities-worldwide And you're absolutely wrong to say Thais don't do what they do because they're Thais. It's exactly because they are Thais. Everyone must take responsibility for what happens in their country; Thais do not yet understand the concept of personal responsibility and this is still in their possible futures. Americans do what they do because they're American and immersed in the cultures of America, same with the Brits, the Aussies and Thais. Don't excuse violence, criminality and venality, these things are universally inimical to civilisation. Winnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winniedapu Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, kevvy said: I rather live in this country than other countries . There is violence in all countries , some more than others . I feel safe here .. You could feel safer living in a hole in the ground. Secure but devoid of the benefits of civilisation. Thailand is a violent and crime-ridden country, and that's just based on the stats they admit to. The country isn't secure or safe just because you feel safe. That's an insular and uninformed conclusion to draw. Winnie Edited August 22, 2016 by Winniedapu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, Agent Sumo said: How do you work that out? It's totally valid when people try to make out that Thailand is somehow more deserving of a description like "Land of Stabbings" than any number of countries around the world that have a far worse reputation for violence. No it's not valid as it bears no relevance to the story. Those who make out it is only in Thailand these things happen and the apologists with their 'this happens everywhere' line are equally prejudiced as they both view a story with a preset agenda. Edited August 22, 2016 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevvy Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 8 hours ago, Winniedapu said: You could feel safer living in a hole in the ground. Secure but devoid of the benefits of civilisation. Thailand is a violent and crime-ridden country, and that's just based on the stats they admit to. The country isn't secure or safe just because you feel safe. That's an insular and uninformed conclusion to draw. Winnie Maybe I do not want to live in a hole ! If I feel safe then who are you to tell me different ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
performance Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 The Thai can not be located and if he is a small 500 baht fine no court required. The police have a 20 year reform the toilet bowl plan. That old pensioners chief of police will be in a casket around that time. The draft will be burnt and warrants out for previous leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
performance Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 On 8/22/2016 at 0:55 AM, Bluespunk said: On 8/23/2016 at 2:41 AM, kevvy said: Maybe I do not want to live in a hole ! If I feel safe then who are you to tell me different ? Yes they act against foreigners due to most of the police are not real. Police. They are Thais for Thais amatures racism is strong here along with poor upbringing and education Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuskegeeBen Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 On 8/21/2016 at 9:19 AM, C5VETTE said: Shocked just because the don't understand Thainess Nonsense! The very limited travel experienced farangs, always reveal themselves. Similar incidents occur daily on the streets of Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur, Lagos, London, Los Angeles, New York, Paris, Sao Paulo, etc. Shall I continue? Give the Thai bash "thing" a rest, for a change. Ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayBeeee Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 On 08/21/2016 at 3:20 PM, Americano555 said: The stabbers were Arabs......they are already back in Kuwait. Excellent opportunity to turn this onto a Muslim-bashing thread! Perhaps I should leave now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanny321 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 On 21/08/2016 at 2:54 PM, Happy Grumpy said: knives. 'Everybody cut footloose.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanny321 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 (edited) 50 minutes ago, TuskegeeBen said: Nonsense! The very limited travel experienced farangs, always reveal themselves. Similar incidents occur daily on the streets of Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur, Lagos, London, Los Angeles, New York, Paris, Sao Paulo, etc. Shall I continue? Give the Thai bash "thing" a rest, for a change. Ok? They do say the Spanish fight with knives though I've never seen it.However one has to wonder if the thugs with access to ready cash have a get out of jail free card; then why control their aggression when it flares up? Edited September 3, 2016 by swanny321 editing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 2 hours ago, performance said: 2 hours ago, performance said: You appear to have associated my username with some gobbledygook I didn't post. Care to to explain why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojorison Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 If he had insurance he could have gone to Bumrungrad. Just around the corner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuskegeeBen Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 3 hours ago, swanny321 said: They do say the Spanish fight with knives though I've never seen it.However one has to wonder if the thugs with access to ready cash have a get out of jail free card; then why control their aggression when it flares up? Huh? Perhaps you intended to post your comment, to a totally different topic thread, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanny321 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 3 hours ago, TuskegeeBen said: Huh? Perhaps you intended to post your comment, to a totally different topic thread, eh? Nope.Just responding to your comment.In my travel experience there are many places where the populace are so terrified by the thought of being incarcerated that in an incident like this they would swallow their pride...so why not here?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Offensive posts and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomwct Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Thainess at it's Best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Off topic posts and inflammatory posts and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 12 hours ago, TuskegeeBen said: Nonsense! The very limited travel experienced farangs, always reveal themselves. Similar incidents occur daily on the streets of Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur, Lagos, London, Los Angeles, New York, Paris, Sao Paulo, etc. Shall I continue? Give the Thai bash "thing" a rest, for a change. Ok? You'll have to do better than that. Indeed, stabbings happen everywhere and Thai bashing gets on my nerves too, but you have to admit that the tiniest loss of face in this part of the world can have a dramatic outcome as we see day in, day out. Any of us could inadvertently find themselves in the same position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuskegeeBen Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 5 hours ago, swanny321 said: Nope.Just responding to your comment.In my travel experience there are many places where the populace are so terrified by the thought of being incarcerated that in an incident like this they would swallow their pride...so why not here?!? Sir! Please get a clue. I never made any such comment that you claim to be quoting. Perhaps the TVF moderators will consider creating an "Ebonics" language forum for subscribers who speak/comprehend your peculiar version of the English language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuskegeeBen Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 39 minutes ago, daveAustin said: You'll have to do better than that. Indeed, stabbings happen everywhere and Thai bashing gets on my nerves too, but you have to admit that the tiniest loss of face in this part of the world can have a dramatic outcome as we see day in, day out. Any of us could inadvertently find themselves in the same position. I agree about the hyper-sensitive, and temperamental nature of people in this part of the world. However, those same characteristic traits are universal, and not peculiar to SE Asia. Now, if you can do better than what I've previously posted, then by all means, do so.I always welcome an upgrade to my own knowledge base. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Sumo Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 2 hours ago, daveAustin said: You'll have to do better than that. Indeed, stabbings happen everywhere and Thai bashing gets on my nerves too, but you have to admit that the tiniest loss of face in this part of the world can have a dramatic outcome as we see day in, day out. Any of us could inadvertently find themselves in the same position. "Face" is used to explain away all kinds of crap on this forum. Stepping on someone's foot in the shebeens of West London today will land you in hospital with punctured lungs too but it'll have <deleted> all to do with a loss of face for the party with slightly scuffed shoes This was street shit - nothing more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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