RtotheC Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Most Thai's have no idea of the concept of "blackface" nor many other parts of American/Western history. I have a fair amount of confidence that this person had no knowledge of blackface and therefore had no racist intentions. This leads to the question: Is something without racist intentions racist just because someone else says it is? If the entertainer had said something negative or derogatory then fair game; however, in this instance the entertainer appears truly amused, much like people who wear sumo suits or sombreros. Personally, I find trying to force culture down someone else's throat a racist act. It amounts to nothing more than a hostile cultural takeover. I've no doubt there is racism in Thailand, I just don't feel that this is an example of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieinthailand Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 14 hours ago, Prbkk said: It was only about 10 years ago that they changed Darkie toothpaste to Darlie. Some way still to go. 2 maybe 3 years ago in Samui An African/American/( what ever ya wanna call him) mate of mine brought round a bottle of Uncle tome's Vodka, we both thought it funny and enjoyed the cheap joke and the cheap vodka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Sumo Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 13 hours ago, thai3 said: As long as you can buy a black man mop and bucket with pic on it in Big C there is still hope for this country Until, of course, they say the word "farang" . At that point, all bets are off, aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogi100 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 We had The Black and White Minstrels Show on BBC TV till the luvvies banned it back in 1978. It was hugely popular especially with West Indian immigrants who saw nothing offensive about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaBoy Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 There is no such thing as "PC people" - there is however a worldwide perception of "black" people as different, inferior or comedic, which is in this day and age just pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlyAnimal Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I always think it's silly how some people get offended at every tiny little thing. I personally don't see anything wrong with "black face" unless they portray a black person in a negative light (much the same as dressing up as any race and then enforcing negative stereotypes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancid Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Once upon a time Progressives held the high ground. We have been changed into a PC society that walks on eggshells. And yet, same progressives have overseen the 1% get richer as the middle and working class gets poorer, equality under the law no longer exists, wars of regime change are raging, we are marching towards a new religious conflict, the media regularly distorts the truth, racism on the ground is no better. So where is their high ground and what is progressive about it? They pick a few social issues and pretend to do battle with them, all the while nothing actually changes. We have been conned by the sheep in wolves clothing. Thailand, you have to laugh, from their blatant (but not malicious) racism, to setting up pig farms near Muslim communities, they really couldn't give a sh*t about PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaBoy Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Its racist only when you mock blacks, wouldn't be noticed if black person impersonate white 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witblitz Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 32 minutes ago, Rancid said: Once upon a time Progressives held the high ground. We have been changed into a PC society that walks on eggshells. And yet, same progressives have overseen the 1% get richer as the middle and working class gets poorer, equality under the law no longer exists, wars of regime change are raging, we are marching towards a new religious conflict, the media regularly distorts the truth, racism on the ground is no better. So where is their high ground and what is progressive about it? They pick a few social issues and pretend to do battle with them, all the while nothing actually changes. We have been conned by the sheep in wolves clothing. Thailand, you have to laugh, from their blatant (but not malicious) racism, to setting up pig farms near Muslim communities, they really couldn't give a sh*t about PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dararasmi Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 16 hours ago, Prbkk said: It was only about 10 years ago that they changed Darkie toothpaste to Darlie. Some way still to go. It was closer to a quarter century ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 10 minutes ago, Dararasmi said: It was closer to a quarter century ago. http://newsone.com/2853883/darkie-darlie-toothpaste-colgate/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 16 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Thailand’s Casual Racism Returns: Did it ever go away? And it has never been casual, they really work at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 ...notwithstanding.... ...shall we pretend that racism here has ever gone away.... .... prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief (or wish)* that one's own race is superior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penicillin Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Some universities in United States have prohibitied students from wearing the traditional Mexican hat called a sombrero on campus as part of any costume during Halloween ;citing it as racists. It's political correctness gone mad ! These absurd college administrations see only racism in everything and penalize the free speech of others that they do not agree with. The news media is also complicit . In an effort to create controversy for news sake ,they run to search out someone that will say they are offended by .... Fill in the blank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 15 hours ago, Gecko123 said: Coconuts: Your time would be better spent working on eradicating racism in Thailand's ex-pat community. Your time would be better spent getting a life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) This must be a dilemma for your average ex-pat blowhard - they want to defend her against the imaginary 'PC' horde who they think run everything, but she is Thai, and all Thais are dumb - what a dilemma for them Edited August 23, 2016 by PremiumLane grammar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhd Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 is it time for "black pete" already in my home country, they don't even allow that anymore PC police even it is supposed to be a white dude that got black for climbing into chimneys a black person working, now that is unrealistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotwight Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 11 minutes ago, Penicillin said: Some universities in United States have prohibitied students from wearing the traditional Mexican hat called a sombrero on campus as part of any costume during Halloween ;citing it as racists. It's political correctness gone mad ! These absurd college administrations see only racism in everything and penalize the free speech of others that they do not agree with. The news media is also complicit . In an effort to create controversy for news sake ,they run to search out someone that will say they are offended by .... Fill in the blank. Typical blame the Yanks. It was a university in the UK. University of East Anglia. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/29/uea-student-union-bans-racist-sombreros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 17 hours ago, Witblitz said: Is this casual racism any different ?...Coconuts needs to get a life You didn't even UNDERSTAND Robert Downey Jr's role in "Tropic Thunder", if you reduce it to "blackface"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witblitz Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, DM07 said: You didn't even UNDERSTAND Robert Downey Jr's role in "Tropic Thunder", if you reduce it to "blackface"! an apologist.....a Thai lady is a casual racist for wearing black face, but Robert Downey Jr is misunderstood..classic Tropic Thunder had no "message" or "moral tale" it was trying to tell....it was just a very bad trashy movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 7 minutes ago, Witblitz said: an apologist.....a Thai lady is a casual racist for wearing black face, but Robert Downey Jr is misunderstood..classic Tropic Thunder had no "message" or "moral tale" it was trying to tell....it was just a very bad trashy movie I didn't say "message"- but reading and understanding are very obviously 2 different things! People you can not see the casual racism, in what this lady did and even applaud or apologize for her, should just try harder in using that thing between their ears, that is called brain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I will start wearing a beret, black and white striped top, grow a mustache and pedal around on an old bicycle. I wonder if our French friends will be offended. Or wear a silk safari suit, dye my hair black and scowl all day long. I think the locals would find humor in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgking Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Witblitz said: PC is an invented word from the right who don't like to see other people getting a voice and being more included in society. Get over it, you aren't having your freedoms taken away, you are just being called out for being a backward, reactionary idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaBoy Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Wheres #BlacklivesmattersSent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) Some good posts expressing both sides of the argument but I'm not getting involved in the rights and wrongs of what may be racist, offensive etc however I'm surprised no one has asked what the reaction would be if someone in another country dressed up to represent a Thai in a less then complimentary way. If anyone has then I apologise for missing the post. Edited August 23, 2016 by NongKhaiKid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 How to spot a racist - see yourself here? It is significant that those who protest the most vociferously that something is NOT racist or “PC gone mad” are in fact mostly likely to be racist themselves. A good way to spot racists is by their sayings... “I’ve got nothing against them but....” “They come over here” “It’s PC bullshit” “That’s not race it’s religion” “blacks are racist too” (isn’t that an admission though?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jippytum Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Get a life people . Has being PC killed our humor bring back the Robinson's Golliwog on my marmalade and the black and white minstrels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn0000 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 17 hours ago, Witblitz said: White chicks released in 2004 Tropical Thunder in 2008 So seems 'America has some ways to go as well ? Of course America has some way to go, they are as racist as they come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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