PM hails new trains - service from Bangkok to Chiang Mai slashed by three hours

[whatproblem]

A step in the right direction,got to be safer than bus

[masuk]

11 minutes ago, xineohp said:

Someone should tell the PM that trains are only as good as the tracks they run on.

I suspect a previous minister discovered this, when his train to Chiang Mai came off the tracks.

[yankee99]

15 minutes ago, sahibji said:

china does manufacture trains and coaches and have even supplied to the singapore MRT.

Never said they didn't just said the ones i used in Shanghai and guangzhou were from Japanese companies 

[Psimbo]

3 hours ago, colinneil said:

Fancy new trains, same old worn out tracks.

Recipe for disaster.

and same old Chicken Little gloom and doom from the 'Geezers'.

Edited August 29, 2016 by Psimbo
Moaning Minnies

[terminatorchiangmai]

120 km per hour ?

A 5 hour roller-coaster ride comes in my mind.

No thanks i will take the plane.

[welshissan]

Have they actually done a road(rail) test yet with the new trains, and carriages, to see how well they will run, or is this down to mathematic equation? 

[TPI]

3 hours ago, colinneil said:

Fancy new trains, same old worn out tracks.

Recipe for disaster.

Does this mean it will only be 18 hours to Den Chai instead of the usual 21 hours??

[ChrisKC]

It's a good move for train travellers but still doesn't compare well with an hour on the plane and in many cases at a similar price.

Will there be a surcharge for the new trains BKK to Chiang Mai?

[theguyfromanotherforum]

Where are the pictures?

[elgordo38]

Toot toot all aboard for our next stop Green Acres. 

[elgordo38]

17 minutes ago, welshissan said:

Have they actually done a road(rail) test yet with the new trains, and carriages, to see how well they will run, or is this down to mathematic equation? 

Its like the environmental/pollution testing VW did. Road testing will reveal the flaws. Ah the proof shall be in the pudding. Its like the boating problems here. One accident and the sky falls in on top of you. 

[JAG]

50 minutes ago, arithai12 said:

Very good, sounds like a move in the right direction.

Now, if they have a little money left, they could invest in better uniforms...

That "International Rescue - Thunderbirds are go" outfit the chap in the photo is wearing surely counts as a cruel and inhuman punishment!

[ratcatcher]

5 minutes ago, JAG said:

That "International Rescue - Thunderbirds are go" outfit the chap in the photo is wearing surely counts as a cruel and inhuman punishment!

I see where they got their inspiration. Go Redcaps.

[maoro2013]

Could be diesel self propelled.

 

These ones in Australia have power cars and not powered cars usually one for one.

[aslimversgwm]

So is this a piss-poor substitute for a new HST link between BKK and CM?

Reducing what is now a 12 or 13 hour train journey by 3 hours is pathetic!

Still be as slow as a bus!

[ratcatcher]

1 minute ago, maoro2013 said:

Could be diesel self propelled.

 

These ones in Australia have power cars and not powered cars usually one for one.

 

1 minute ago, maoro2013 said:

Could be diesel self propelled.

 

These ones in Australia have power cars and not powered cars usually one for one.

These ones in Australia 

Which ones please?

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

4 hours ago, scorecard said:

Actually a very long section of the track mid Thailand to CM was totally relaid with all new materials about 18 months ago.

 

So by the October launch of the new trains, the track that was relaid 18 months ago should pretty much be falling apart and ready for regular derailments.

 

Local quality control, after all!

Edited August 29, 2016 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

48 minutes ago, welshissan said:

Have they actually done a road(rail) test yet with the new trains, and carriages, to see how well they will run, or is this down to mathematic equation? 

 

Notice the PM only took a short ride on the line from BKK to Nakon Pathom... Probably a smart move on his part.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Lucky rail car #13... Quite an auspicious omen for those who believe in such things...

 

[UTH001]

A good development but I can fly there for as little as THB 825 (2nd class train as little as THB 491),  I guess I would take a plane...

[swerver]

4 hours ago, ratcatcher said:

I assume these "trains" will require a locomotive on the head end, as no mention is made of how they are powered. 

In an attached article it mentions power cars, but presumably those cars will supply electrical power to the passenger cars (carriages) of the train.

http://www.railprofessional.com/news/cnrs-13-air-conditioned-train-carriages-arrive-in-thailand

 

New power:

 

 

 

Guess Locomotive is an old word causing people to think about steam. But then again when the diesel electric came on the scene they were christened with the name Diesel Locomotive. But this being Thailand they have to have their own nomenclature of Power car. Oh well whatever turns them on.

Interesting to see how the intelligent Thai drivers will try to beat this 120KPH train the UNGUARDED rail crossings. Their chances with the slow coach trains were not anything to write home to mother about.

[ratcatcher]

3 minutes ago, swerver said:

 

 

Guess Locomotive is an old word causing people to think about steam. But then again when the diesel electric came on the scene they were christened with the name Diesel Locomotive. But this being Thailand they have to have their own nomenclature of Power car. Oh well whatever turns them on.

Interesting to see how the intelligent Thai drivers will try to beat this 120KPH train the UNGUARDED rail crossings. Their chances with the slow coach trains were not anything to write home to mother about.

"But this being Thailand they have to have their own nomenclature of Power car."

 

For clarification...................https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_car

[hansnl]

5 hours ago, colinneil said:

Fancy new trains, same old worn out tracks.

Recipe for disaster

 

 

 

 

 

Did you check the track renewal that has taken place lately on several routes, including Bangkok-Chiang Mai.?

You did not do that.

Your comment then, is just a slur.

 

[hansnl]

24 minutes ago, swerver said:

 

 

Guess Locomotive is an old word causing people to think about steam. But then again when the diesel electric came on the scene they were christened with the name Diesel Locomotive. But this being Thailand they have to have their own nomenclature of Power car. Oh well whatever turns them on.

Interesting to see how the intelligent Thai drivers will try to beat this 120KPH train the UNGUARDED rail crossings. Their chances with the slow coach trains were not anything to write home to mother about.

The locomotive pulls the train.

For lighting the carriages, for powering the air-conditioning, for delivering all kinds of electricity to all the carriages, there is a power generating carriage in the train, probably at the end or the beginning.

Which does away the need for an engine under all carriages.

[hansnl]

5 hours ago, DLang said:

That's quite an increase.

 

They must go through pick-ups without even feeling them.

Ever sat in the front of a train and seeing the train hitting the car, or bicycle, or motorbike, or playing children?

And knowing you can't stop in time?

Idiot!

[oldlakey]

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Wow. This move was so long overdue. Congratulations for the government. They did something that benefitted the Thai people. At long last. This is what I call moving the country forward! Keep it up. We need more evidence that you really do care Mr. Little Man!

And you were doing so well

[oldlakey]

3 hours ago, sahibji said:

sir there is a month of testing and the tracks will be all checked up before the commencement of the commercial service.

Sir, I cannot recall any incident to make me doubt your statement
 

[ThaiTony2]

3 hours ago, yankee99 said:

funny all the trains i took in China were made in Japan or by a Japanese manufacturer. 

 

Highly unlikely. Where in China?  A few parts for the trains come from Japan, but not the entire train.  China manufactures their trains and they sells them to a couple of countries.  Just do some Googleing.  

[DrPhibes]

2 hours ago, JAG said:

That "International Rescue - Thunderbirds are go" outfit the chap in the photo is wearing surely counts as a cruel and inhuman punishment!

"FAB"

[Kru Baa]

Shaved three hours of the trip by ignoring all safety measures and driving like a maniac