Retirement visa late renewal?

[TantrikLvr]

What must we go through if returning to Thailand after expire date, to re-apply for retirement visa?

[JohnC]

Start again, same procedure as when you first applied 

[elviajero]

I assume you mean an extension of stay based on retirement.

 

Before you can apply for the extension you need to enter the country with a new non immigrant visa, OR if you enter as a tourist you need to convert that entry to a non immigrant visa/entry.

 

However you achieve the 90 day non immigrant visa entry you can apply for the extension of stay within the last 30 (maybe 45) days.

[OMGImInPattaya]

Back to square one...you have to start the process all over again. If you want to keep your "retirement visa" active, one has to plan their travel schedule with its expiry date in mind and either renew it beforehand or return shortly before it expires.

[Kabula]

9 hours ago, elviajero said:

I assume you mean an extension of stay based on retirement.

 

Before you can apply for the extension you need to enter the country with a new non immigrant visa, OR if you enter as a tourist you need to convert that entry to a non immigrant visa/entry.

 

However you achieve the 90 day non immigrant visa entry you can apply for the extension of stay within the last 30 (maybe 45) days.

The Immigration stamp in a passport is the visa!  If you look up the definition of a visa in Blacks law dictionary that will confirm it.  Therefore, one does not have to be specific in stating a retirement extension.  The stamp, the visa, clearly says retirement!  The ultiment goal is to secure a retirement visa.

[Lite Beer]

Wrong.

The Embassy /Consul stamp or sticker is the visa.

The Immigration stamp is either your permission to stay or an extension of your permission to stay.

 

[OJAS]

1 hour ago, Kabula said:

 The stamp, the visa, clearly says retirement! 

 

But it doesn't say visa, though! Or maybe through your crystal ball it does?

[laislica]

You may also need to think about the timing or the renewal of your extension if you like to take trips away from Thailand.

We do 6 months or so in Spain and 5 months or so in Thailand.

My renewal is the 26 April, just about the time we leave Thailand, so I can apply 30 days before (end March),

buy a re-entry permit and all good.

The only worry I have is that I have read recently that some Imm Offices are giving a 30 day assessment stamp which runs from the date of expiry of the extension.

In my case I would have to return to Imm at 26 May to get the remaining 11 months.

 

If you get a non imm O visa and arrive in Thailand, it will be 60 days before you can apply for the extension.

If you enter on a visa waiver and convert to non imm O, then it will be 90 days (or something like that)

 

[elviajero]

5 hours ago, Kabula said:

The Immigration stamp in a passport is the visa!  If you look up the definition of a visa in Blacks law dictionary that will confirm it.  Therefore, one does not have to be specific in stating a retirement extension.  The stamp, the visa, clearly says retirement!  The ultiment goal is to secure a retirement visa.

Not every country issue visas/permission to stay in the same way.

• Thailand issue a visa to be presented at the border that allows a specified number of entries within a given date. The visa does not specify how long someone can stay.
• On entry the IO issues permission to stay (the stamp) for a time determined by the type of visa.
• When you apply for an extension of stay (for whatever reason) you are extending your permission to stay. The original visa determines the extensions you qualify for, but it is not extended.
• If you look at the stamp (permit to stay) issued for an extension of stay based on retirement it says 'Extension of Stay' and usually gives the reason for the permit, 'Retirement'. It doesn't say 'Visa'.
• Some countries issue visas that specifies the date you can stay in the country until. Thailand don't. They just specify the expiry date the visa can be used to enter.