jikwan Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 theyre very expensive, so i thought id try planting some. im in loei and the soil isnt the most fertile in the world. about sea level near nong hin they grow it in bolivia and also australia any info appreciated 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamkyong Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Salvia hispanica, commonly known as chia, is a species of flowering plant in the mint family, Lamiaceae, native to central and southern Mexico and Guatemala. Wikipedia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jikwan Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share Posted September 4, 2016 have a look at this vid australia i guess about 3 sq metres=half a kilo? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseacraft Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Are you looking to mass produce and market this or for a garden project for personal consumption? https://www.uky.edu/Ag/CCD/introsheets/chia.pd Website for the US company licensed by UKy for seed production/marketing: fhttp://www.heartlandchia.com/ https://plants.usda.gov/plantguide/pdf/cs_saco6.pdf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jikwan Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share Posted September 4, 2016 8 hours ago, Pseacraft said: Are you looking to mass produce and market this or for a garden project for personal consumption? https://www.uky.edu/Ag/CCD/introsheets/chia.pd Website for the US company licensed by UKy for seed production/marketing: fhttp://www.heartlandchia.com/ https://plants.usda.gov/plantguide/pdf/cs_saco6.pdf definately small scale. if it works i could tell people its possible 10-20 sq metres enough for my own consumption this as you probably know is a superfood and i could imagine eating a handfull or two to replace ordinary food yes, im a bit crazy thanks for the info--i ll study it bit later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jikwan Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share Posted September 4, 2016 soil round here is notoriously incapable of holding water this is a good advantage so far Chia is a low-maintenance crop that prefers moderately fertile, well-drained soils. While moisture is necessary for seedling establishment, this crop is highly intolerant of wet soils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jikwan Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share Posted September 4, 2016 wow! looks like i got optimum conditions here Adaptation Chia is adapted to arid conditions and soils of low fertility. It is one of the so-called “fire following” species, in that it increases in abundance after a fire (Timbrook et al. 1982). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseacraft Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 I noticed a contradiction between the USDA and UKy papers on that but could be because the UKy is a hybrid variety specifically modified for midwest USA conditions and the USDA was looking at what was in current production more or less globally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jikwan Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share Posted September 4, 2016 7 hours ago, Pseacraft said: I noticed a contradiction between the USDA and UKy papers on that but could be because the UKy is a hybrid variety specifically modified for midwest USA conditions and the USDA was looking at what was in current production more or less globally. noted, thanks its a tough old plant, very resilient and requires good amount of sun planting it now in the rainy season would not be a good idea. too much water makes them grow too tall too fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseacraft Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 The key issue will be finding a variety that is ideal for your conditions. Good luck and post updates when you do put it in the ground. Our main field has at least 3 different soil types. We are looking for alternative crops that won't require massive up front costs for specialized equipage, but instead allow harvester screen and planter plate swaps, etc on the existing equipage, for the dry season to both supplement the small income our farming provides but also improves the soil. I want to limit our chemical dependance because of my concern for the ecological consequences as rice paddy is so water dependent and you can not control run off. So your question has made me add to my list of crops to consider. So many questions to be answered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jikwan Posted September 5, 2016 Author Share Posted September 5, 2016 why not clear and till a 2 sq metre patch on each of the 3 soil types and scatter a few handfulls and lightly cover them might have to wait 3-4 months for the result better than planting the whole field then finding it wasnt suitable if it dont take then youve only lost about 7 hrs of work including occasional watering i suspect they grow a lot of it in thailand but theyre not telling the more growers the selling price gets lowered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseacraft Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Not so much the result from a micro test plot we are interested in as the marketablility of the commodity. Might be a niche market in the big cities where the overhype words get attention. This is one area we am looking. We will use our soil types to our advantage as far a production just as we do with rice. Worst case is still a win, we will till under the plants (which ever we do schedule to grow) just as flowering starts. Just want to have as full a deck of cards as possible to play with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbalEd Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Given that Chia naturally grows in arid, desert areas, I'd think Thailand is too wet and humid to grow it here in Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bark Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Chinese are growing large scale farms in Burma; for the last 3 years. Bought the land cheap. Good results with High density fields. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jikwan Posted September 7, 2016 Author Share Posted September 7, 2016 On 6/9/2559 at 11:58 AM, HerbalEd said: Given that Chia naturally grows in arid, desert areas, I'd think Thailand is too wet and humid to grow it here in Thailand. rainy season definately out of the question the NE issan i think is ideal. they dont get much rain for 8 months and lots of sun and sandy soil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JungleBiker Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 I've been growing it in Laos for a few years. On top of a mountain. Grows like a weed. I've never had to spray for pests and diseases. In your low altitude area, I suggest you sow within this month and then irrigate in the dry season. Should be ready for harvest after 4 months. If you plant too late, the heat from March onwards will not help and neither will the rainy season (too hot and humid). Start with a clean seedbed, sow the small seed (very shallow) in rows about 30cm apart then, when the seedlings are a few cm high, hoe one time between the rows to knock out weed seedlings, give a bit of fertiliser, and then the chia seedlings will soon grow upwards and outwards to cover over the gaps between the rows and shade out any further weed growth. Shouldn't need to do weeding more than just that one time. Let us know how it goes. JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rice555 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Hello All, not chia, but quiona is being tested up N. The forward to the article is in Eng. The guy's contact info is at the top R/H of the second pic. The main article is Thai. The mag issue it's from. The chia seed I got at The Mall Korat, the lowest priced one, Bt. 180. rice555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rice555 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Hello All, not chia, but quiona is being tested up N. The forward to the article is in Eng. The guy's contact info is at the top R/H of the second pic. The main article is Thai. The mag issue it's from. The chia seed I got at The Mall Korat, the lowest priced one, Bt. 180. rice555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldfun Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Interesting especially with the quinoa seeds. any update guys anywhere? I've found the basil seeds quite nice e.g. in soy milk etc which is similar to chia in drinks but slightly less 'super food' qualities though but grown natively here although I don't see it too widely available apart from at the local soy milk shops in the markets as ready to eat (presoaked) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Interesting especially with the quinoa seeds. any update guys anywhere? I've found the basil seeds quite nice e.g. in soy milk etc which is similar to chia in drinks but slightly less 'super food' qualities though but grown natively here although I don't see it too widely available apart from at the local soy milk shops in the markets as ready to eat (presoaked) [emoji6] You will face two problems :1. For local market, forget about it. Thais won't eat what they don't know.For example I like very much Millet or Sorghum as healthy alternative to rice.All Thais I know said it's animal feed... 2. For export, you have to compete with already existing producers that have more experience and better climatic conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JungleBiker Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 On 11/03/2018 at 12:36 PM, CLW said: You will face two problems : 1. For local market, forget about it. Thais won't eat what they don't know. For example I like very much Millet or Sorghum as healthy alternative to rice. All Thais I know said it's animal feed... 2. For export, you have to compete with already existing producers that have more experience and better climatic conditions. Chia is already selling in Thailand. For high prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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