Jatuporn unfazed with bail withdrawal prospect

[candide]

15 hours ago, robblok said:

 

The reds grabbed power from Abisith in a similar manner. Now the yellows did it (and would never have happened if Thaksin did not have himself included in the amnesty and the reds had not bombed and shot the yellows). So who is to blame.. 

 

When the reds burn BKK (violent protests unlike the yellows) its ok but not when yellows peacefully try to bring down a corrupt lying government. 

 

2 mistakes of the red led to this.. 1 Thaksin his amnesty when the people stood up against it, 2 the bombing and shooting of yellows gave the army good reason to step in. Its all on their own heads.

Basically, the red shirts in 2010 and the PDRC in 2014 had similar claims: that the government in place at that time was not representing the will of the majority of the people. Now let's look at two significant differences. The first is that the red shirts were calling for elections, while Suthep wanted to impose an unelected government and blocked election.The second is that YL dissolved the assembly in order to let voters decide, and that Abhisit did not dissolve the assembly and sent the troop instead.

[icare999]

18 hours ago, The stuttering parrot said:

Why wouldn't he be unfazed he speaks the truth about the yellows trying to seize power unlawfully opening up the opportunity for a military coup.

Unfortunatley Sutep and his cronies are unfazed to and hid away in a temple until  it was deemed safe that enough time had passed.

Some monks and pollies are Teflon coated and get a free pass to bring down a democratically elected government.

ou talk of democracy in same sentance as tihs vile man who has no understanding of democracy and only knows how to incite people to burn down Bangkok Democratic (not) 

[Dongkampo]

A picture says a thousand words, just take a look at the typical red shirt supporters, poorly educated menacing and Jatuporn with one of the well known Thai smiles which is anything but friendly.
I don't normally agree with any kind of military rule but the coup was sadly needed to prevent more trouble,  deaths and a near civil war happening. We all know Jatuporn was/is in Thaksins pocket along with all UDD politicians and some of the money filtered down to locals in many Provinces mostly in Issan. Bottom line there hasn't been a truely Democratically elected government in Thailand for many years, well before Thaksin.  Hopefully there will be in the not too distant future. 

[debate101]

9 hours ago, ianf said:

Oh dear Debate! You really have swallowed the red line.

 

That's not an argument, just a put-down. Do you have something to contribute or an actual response to what I posted?

[halloween]

7 hours ago, candide said:

Basically, the red shirts in 2010 and the PDRC in 2014 had similar claims: that the government in place at that time was not representing the will of the majority of the people. Now let's look at two significant differences. The first is that the red shirts were calling for elections, while Suthep wanted to impose an unelected government and blocked election.The second is that YL dissolved the assembly in order to let voters decide, and that Abhisit did not dissolve the assembly and sent the troop instead.

 

But the protesters of 2010 were protesting the coup of some 4 years and 3 PMs earlier. That may be inconvenient, but anybody here at the time would remember, if they chose to.

[JAG]

This debate can rumble on between two entrenched sides, a bit like a "quiet sector" of the "Western Front" in the First World War ; but at the moment it suits the regime to have Jutaporn and his pals out of gaol. 

 

The minute it suits them they will imprison them, Yingluck and anyone else they decide, irrespective  of bail conditions, court rulings, appeal process or anything else.  Its a military junta. That''s how they operate. Both sides know that. That is why he is unfazed. He thinks (and he is probably right ) that he is too high profile politically to develop a sudden blood disorder or commit suicide when he goes to gaol.

 

I rather imagine that he has also reckoned that a spell incarcerated by the Junta will stand him in good stead politically in due course. 

Edited September 9, 2016 by JAG

[halloween]

9 minutes ago, JAG said:

This debate can rumble on between two entrenched sides, a bit like a "quiet sector" of the "Western Front" in the First World War ; but at the moment it suits the regime to have Jutaporn and his pals out of gaol. 

 

The minute it suits them they will imprison them, Yingluck and anyone else they decide, irrespective  of bail conditions, court rulings, appeal process or anything else.  Its a military junta. That''s how they operate. Both sides know that. That is why he is unfazed. He thinks (and he is probably right ) that he is too high profile politically to develop a sudden blood disorder or commit suicide when he goes to gaol.

 

I rather imagine that he has also reckoned that a spell incarcerated by the Junta will stand him in good stead politically in due course. 

 

After he serves his terrorism he will be a forgotten old man, his criminal paymaster will be long dead, and Thai democracy will have moved on to better things, hopefully.

"Justice delayed is justice denied"  This man should have been well through the phases of the justice system by now, close to his last appeal to the Supreme Court. The abuse of the party list system, appointing as MPs persons facing serious criminal charges, along with the Thaksin's involvement in election advertising, was according to the EC sufficient to disband PTP, an action not taken because of the anticipated threat of civil unrest.

Red democracy, flouting election law with the knowledge that the threat of violence from your supporters allows you to go unpunished.

[ianf]

13 hours ago, Dongkampo said:

A picture says a thousand words, just take a look at the typical red shirt supporters, poorly educated menacing and Jatuporn with one of the well known Thai smiles which is anything but friendly.
I don't normally agree with any kind of military rule but the coup was sadly needed to prevent more trouble,  deaths and a near civil war happening. We all know Jatuporn was/is in Thaksins pocket along with all UDD politicians and some of the money filtered down to locals in many Provinces mostly in Issan. Bottom line there hasn't been a truely Democratically elected government in Thailand for many years, well before Thaksin.  Hopefully there will be in the not too distant future. 

Great Post. Debate and the other Red Shirts here should read this and inwardly digest.