Spokesman: Trump now believes President Obama was born in US

[Ulysses G.]

3 hours ago, PTC said:

 

 

Your citation of Blumenthal's comments is not substantiated. Blumenthal has denied saying this. You have evidence otherwise?

 

Yep.  Blumenthal - like Hillary - has a proven record of lying. If he would lie about serving in Vietnam, he would lie about anything. McClatchy has no reason to lie.  A news organization with that much credibility does not lie - Blumenthal DOES.

 

 Richard Blumenthal served in Vietnam -- or at least he told the American people that he did. According to people who know Blumenthal, his war record grew over the years. That hapless tool of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, the New York Times, found no less than eight articles between 2003 and 2009 in which Blumenthal spoke of his service in Vietnam. Now, it seems, the Connecticut Democrat politician did not serve in Vietnam at all. In fact, Blumenthal took extraordinary steps to avoid service in Vietnam.
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/05/blumenthal_and_the_liars_party.html#ixzz4KjDMXDl6

[PTC]

1 hour ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

 

There has been TONS of evidence presented - on two different threads - about Hillary supporters pushing the rumor long before Trump. as usual, you just keep denying the FACTS. Keep your dishonest "Liar" comments to yourself.

 

Then, as Obama marched toward the presidency, a new suggestion emerged: That he was not eligible to serve.

That theory first emerged in the spring of 2008, as Clinton supporters circulated an anonymous email questioning Obama’s citizenship.

“Barack Obama’s mother was living in Kenya with his Arab-African father late in her pregnancy. She was not allowed to travel by plane then, so Barack Obama was born there and his mother then took him to Hawaii to register his birth,” asserted one chain email that surfaced on the urban legend site Snopes.com in April 2008.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2011/04/birtherism-where-it-all-began-053563#ixzz4KixezeDj

 

And don't forget the photos of Obama in African gear that Hillary's campaign circulated:

 

Obama campaign manager David Plouffe accused the Clinton campaign Monday of "shameful offensive fear-mongering" by circulating a photo as an attempted smear.

Plouffe was reacting to a banner headline on the Drudge Report saying that aides to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) had e-mailed a photo calling attention to the African roots of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.).
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2008/02/obama-slams-smear-photo-008667#ixzz4KiyXdDd5

 

Does Clinton have a Blumenthal birther problem?

 

Rodham Clinton wanted to hire Mr. Blumenthal, a loyal confidant who had helped her promote the idea of a 'vast right-wing conspiracy' more than a decade ago. But President Obma's campaign veterans still blamed him for spreading harsh attacks against their candidate in the primary showdown with Mrs. Clinton last year."

It now looks like those "harsh attacks" that Blumenthal spread included birtherism. James Asher, former editor of McClatchy's DC bureau alleged Friday that Blumenthal had in fact directly brought the allegations to the newspaper chain in 2008 and asked them to investigate.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/does-clinton-have-a-blumenthal-birther-problem/article/2602090

 

 

And still we wait for evidence. The tons [sic] of 'evidence' to which you refer is exactly like the trash that you provide above. Nothing new, just a peppering of purposefully misrepresented reports and allegations of happening that are out of any knowable context.

 

This rubbish is a Tissue of Lies. You consistently perpetuate these lies. You use every devious trick in the book to push these falsehoods. In your world, perhaps that makes you feel superior. In the normal world, we would call that lying and the person who does that a liar.

 

Case in point. You have claimed that Hillary Clinton started the birther roumours. You have stated that Hillary Clinton's 2008 Campaign started the birther rumors. You have stated that supporters of Hillary Clinton started the birther rumors. All these assertions are lies. They are proven lies by your own links. The politico article that you referenced itself reports that the birther rumors started in 2004.

 

You then misrepresent the article's report that the email sent by one supporter who was subsequently dismissed from the Campaign was the start of the birther issue. No. Politico clearly says that this was the start of linking the eligibility issue to the birther issue. There is no evidence of Hillary Clinton starting this birther issue. There is no evidence of Hillary Clinton's campaign starting this birther issue. There was one person who sent an email making allegations about the eligibility of Obama to be President and they were sacked.

 

You then add nonsense about a photo of Obama dressed in Somali costume with the sinister warning 'Don't Forget'. Plenty of photos of Obama in weird costume like all the annual APEC meetings where they wear those silly shirts. But what you have done is a classic example of the innuendo and insinuation of which you accuse others.

 

Finally you repeat the Blumenthal thing. Presenting allegations and unsubstantiated statements as facts.

 

So nothing new here. Just the usual lies and demands that others stop calling these fabrications what they are.

 

You claimed Hillary Clinton started the birther rumours.

You claimed that Hillary Clinton's 2008 Campaign started these rumours.

You claimed that Hillary Clinton supporters - that means multiple people - started the birther rumours.

 

Most sensible people who are not unhinged by partisan bile know these to be lies. The evidence demonstrates this. If you don't like being called a liar, then don't perpetuate these lies.

 

So I guess I have to keep waiting for any real evidence to be presented. There must be a large number of small people googling their way through masses of data trying to find something to help their vain struggle to sideline the birther issue.

[Ulysses G.]

3 hours ago, PTC said:

 

You have zero authority to instruct any poster despite your tens of thousands of posts, many of which call other posters liars.

 

 

Unlike you, I don't call them "liars". I point out the posts that are lies and prove it with evidence. You are incapable of that. You just ignore obvious facts from credible sources, insist that they are not true and dishonestly slander other posters.

 

 

[PTC]

13 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

Yep.  Blumenthal - like Hillary - has a proven record of lying. If he would lie about serving in Vietnam, he would lie about anything. McClatchy has no reason to lie.  A news organization with that much credibility does not lie - Blumenthal DOES.

 

 Richard Blumenthal served in Vietnam -- or at least he told the American people that he did. According to people who know Blumenthal, his war record grew over the years. That hapless tool of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, the New York Times, found no less than eight articles between 2003 and 2009 in which Blumenthal spoke of his service in Vietnam. Now, it seems, the Connecticut Democrat politician did not serve in Vietnam at all. In fact, Blumenthal took extraordinary steps to avoid service in Vietnam.
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/05/blumenthal_and_the_liars_party.html#ixzz4KjDMXDl6

 

He could lie about all sorts of things. I do not defend Blumenthal. I have no idea what Blumenthal has said that is true or untrue. Nobody, neither a McClatchy journalist, nor Donald Trump or even YOU can present an allegation as fact without substantiation.

 

The fact that you don't like Blumenthal is not substantiation. The fact that he did not serve in Vietnam is not substantiation. It merely places him in the same field as Donald Trump.

 

The dishonesty of someone who calls out others as liars but perpetuates lies themselves. Demonstrate that the statements allegedly made by Blumenthal to Asher are correct or retain the branded with the mark of a liar. Or retract your false statements. Easy solution.

[Ulysses G.]

5 minutes ago, PTC said:

 

And still we wait for evidence.

 

 

Just as I thought. How hypocritical. You ask for evidence and then deny any evidence that disputes your false narrative.  No wonder your dishonest, baiting, partisan posts are not taken seriously - what a waste of time.

[PTC]

3 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

Unlike you, I don't call them "liars". I point out the posts that are lies and prove it with evidence. You are incapable of that. You just ignore obvious facts from credible sources, insist that they are not true and dishonestly slander other posters.

 

 

 

Posting VDO of other people repeating the same lies that you tell does not make your lies true.

 

I note your insolence in the context of your repeated accusations of my posts being inflammatory.

 

You have accused multiple members of being liars, including many of your tens of thousands of posts. Yet you wonder why people might be somewhat hostile to your narrow minded, intransigent partisan rubbish. Go figure.

[Ulysses G.]

1 minute ago, PTC said:

 

I note your insolence in the context of your repeated accusations of my posts being inflammatory.

 

 

 Don't forget dishonest, baiting and hypocritical. 

[PTC]

11 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

 

Just as I thought. How hypocritical. You ask for evidence and then deny any evidence that disputes your false narrative.  No wonder your dishonest, baiting, partisan posts are not taken seriously - what a waste of time.

 

The evidence was reviewed. It was dismissed. The reasons for the dismissal were clearly stated. Your views on my posts are completely irrelevant. Nobody forces you to reply to them.

 

You don't like being called a liar, then don't perpetuate the lie that Hillary Clinton started the birther rumours. No amount of squawking and gnashing your gums will change that.

 

I still await evidence that your falsehoods are not lies. Perhaps it will be there in the morning. You have several hours to manufacture what you will from google. Please feel free to continue wasting your time. I am happy for this issue and for Trump and you to be exposed as liars continually until November.

Edited September 19, 2016 by PTC

[PTC]

Just now, Ulysses G. said:

 

 Don't forget dishonest, baiting and hypocritical. 

 

I note the continued insolence by someone who clearly thinks that tens of thousands of posts on TVF provides an entitlement to make such comments.

 

Don't worry, some of the brain's trust in your 'circle' may come along in the morning and click on like to soothe your feelings.

 

Still waiting for actual evidence. You know - Facts and stuff to prove your allegation that Hillary Clinton started the birther movement. If you had the chops to defend these lies, then I guess you would have done a better job by now.

[Ulysses G.]

9 minutes ago, PTC said:

 

Posting VDO of other people repeating the same lies that you tell does not make your lies true.

 

Sure. MSNBC are real Trump fans. If they were going to lie, it would not be to help the republicans. Quit being ridiculous. 

Edited September 19, 2016 by Ulysses G.

[PTC]

2 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

Sure. MSNBC are real Trump fans. If they were going to lie, it would not be to help the republicans. Quit being ridiculous. 

 

Again with the instructions. From where did you get such insolence? I guess I should not be surprised reflecting on the way you speak about some of your fellow citizens. You know the ones I mean.

 

I really don't know how to get it through the thick heads of the partisan lunatics who project their partiship onto everyone else and get triggered by every little thing.

 

I made no comment about MSNBC. I rarely watch it. I am not familiar with the two talking heads. Clearly the lady was not a Birther. Clearly the guy believes, like you, that Hillary Clinton started the Birther issue. My comment to the MSNBC is the same as it is to you and your fellow travelers. Making allegations without evidence to substantiate them is lying. The mere fact that you say something does not make it true.

 

Prove that Hillary Clinton started the Birther issue or withdraw from the conversation. Or not. Continue whining as you will.

[Ulysses G.]

48 minutes ago, PTC said:

Prove that Hillary Clinton started the Birther issue or withdraw from the conversation.

 

That is a Red Herring. I don't recall making such a claim - although it would not surprise me if it was true. Sneaky, sneaky you know.

The FACTS are that her supporters are the ones that made the birther charges into an major issue and her campaign staff helped too. Her allies and a Hillary campaign staffer forwarded emails about the rumor and others got photos of Obama in African gear published - to smear him in the press. There is plenty of evidence all over this thread and another one on a similar topic. Deny it all you want.

[Ulysses G.]

1 hour ago, PTC said:

 

 My comment to the MSNBC is the same as it is to you and your fellow travelers. Making allegations without evidence to substantiate them is lying.

 

They have plenty of evidence and - obviously - both of them think Hillary's supporters are the ones that made the birther rumor into a big issue. THEY are not the ones that are lying.

[Scott]

Continue to bicker and YOU WILL RECEIVE SUSPENSIONS.  

[joecoolfrog]

On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 11:08 AM, JHolmesJr said:

So he was born muzzlim but isn't because he says so?

Actually he was born Atheist , just like everybody else in this world. Religion is taught , its not genetic , surely you realise that much.

[JHolmesJr]

1 hour ago, joecoolfrog said:

Actually he was born Atheist , just like everybody else in this world. Religion is taught , its not genetic , surely you realise that much.

 

Try telling that to muzzlims. 

[joecoolfrog]

23 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:

 

Try telling that to muzzlims. 

Well if any Muslim denies the logic then he is precisely as smart as you !

[JHolmesJr]

You dont know any muzzlms personally, do you?

[joecoolfrog]

I dont know what a Muzzim is , if you mean Muslims yes I do. I assume you know plenty as they seem to preoccupy you to a huge degree.

[mtls2005]

Jason, you've got some 'splainin' to do...

 

after a visit to the strip club.

 

 

 

In a statement released late Thursday night, campaign spokesman Jason Miller claims Trump "did a great service to the country" by bringing closure to an "ugly incident" that Trump, in fact, fueled.
 
"In 2011, Mr. Trump was finally able to bring this ugly incident to its conclusion by successfully compelling President Obama to release his birth certificate," Miller said.
 
"Mr. Trump did a great service to the President and the country by bringing closure" to the issue, he added. "Inarguably, Donald J. Trump is a closer. Having successfully obtained President Obama's birth certificate when others could not, Mr. Trump believes that President Obama was born in the United States."

 

 

 

 

Former Trump Staffers Jason Miller and A.J. Delgado Have Parented a Love Child

 

Two former members of Donald Trump‘s presidential campaign staff are now parents.

 

Page Six reports that Jason Miller — who is married — fathered the newborn child of Trump surrogate (and former Mediaite columnist) A.J. Delgado. Miller used to serve as Trump’s communications director, while Delgado frequently appeared on news shows to talk up the mogul before he became president.

 

https://www.mediaite.com/online/former-trump-staffers-jason-miller-and-a-j-delgado-have-parented-a-love-child/