Cook my sock Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Really hard to get a real picture of the dangers of contracting it. They say it's a different strain but is it any different in reality?We know how vague and economical with the truth the government can be. 200 cases, 100 in the last few weeks it seems.as we are are currently trying for a baby, the chances of contracting it double if you are a couple. My wife said let's wait.. although I guess we can get tested.. but will it only get worse next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 That whole zika thing is an overrated BS story anywhere in the world. Look at Malaria: In 2015, there were 214 million cases of malaria worldwide resulting in an estimated 438,000 deaths, 90% of which occurred in Africa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cook my sock Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 I get your point, but I don't think zika is such a trivial issue to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 200 cases among 70 million people. Your odds are 1 in 0.0000002871. Moved to the health sub forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cook my sock Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 many cases in the BK district I'm living in, means (for me)the odds are .. a little higher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 how much is many cases? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Zika has been endemic throughout Asia, Africa and Latin America for many, many years (documentation for SE Asia goes back more than 60 years). Most cases don't even know they have it. The South American strain of the virus differs from the Asian strain and to date it is only the South American strain that has been linked to birth defects. The virus arrived in S. America more recently and appears to have mutated when it did so, whereas it has been present in Africa and Asia for many decades. " Human Zika virus infection appears to have changed in character while expanding its geographical range. The change is from an endemic, mosquito-borne infection causing mild illness across equatorial Africa and Asia, to an infection causing, from 2007 onwards, large outbreaks, and from 2013 onwards, outbreaks linked with neurological disorders including Guillain-Barré syndrome and microcephaly across the Pacific region and the Americas. " http://www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/16-171082/en/ There is at present no need to be concerned as Zika in SE Asia is a very mild disease that is not known to have an adverse effect during pregnancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bark Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Just stay in your house for the next 9 months; you'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Well, enlighten us with your knowledge, Great One. Dengue kills more people each year than Zika that's for sure. You should fear Dengue before Zika. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 OP get on with your life, obviously take care of the health of both of you and deal with mosquitoes in the usual way, your wife can be checked at the usual intervals during her pregnancy. Dengue fever is the one to careful of and l wouldn't wish it on anyone . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Sadly, this virus will create a situation where the diminished cranial size will prove that size no longer matters. Zika babies will, if in the right set of circumstance. Be allowed to set precedent in very important matters. On the positive side. Many will enjoy reading of there exploits for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 You are a healthy male? And you are afraid of Zika? Ever heard of Dengue? Magnitudes more risky to catch than Zika, And the densely populated cities are a top spot to catch Dengue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) Swine flu, bird flu, SARS, ... Zika... What will be the next hysteria? Dog flu? Edited September 22, 2016 by KhunBENQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemrut Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 The difference with Zika today vs past strains is that it has resulted in very real mental/physical impairments of newborn babies, primarily in S America. Now there is evidence that current strain of Zika is spread not only by mosquitos but can also be transmitted through sex and other bodily fluids. Zika is now spreading through SE Asia and even highly developed Singapore. The social implications are huge for increasing number of newborns afflicted with microcephaly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Just believe in the words of one little short Deputy PM. NWF! And if he says there is a fairy at the bottom of your garden, you had better believe it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cook my sock Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 I'll ask my brother in law (doctor)about the new strain. My concerns.. we don't really know the true number of infections, which may run into the 1000s already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Live your worriedness. I am out here. Are you pregnant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Posts containing factually untrue information, quackery, conspiracy theories and the like have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cook my sock Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 Just to say my brother in law (a Thai doctor) says it's supposedly the Asian strain, but he cautioned me on believing the Thai government lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cook my sock Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/27/thailand-investigates-suspected-cases-of-zika-linked-microcephalyNot good news as it indicates a possible cover up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 10 hours ago, Cook my sock said: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/27/thailand-investigates-suspected-cases-of-zika-linked-microcephaly Not good news as it indicates a possible cover up Also here http://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-zika-thailand-idUSKCN11X0OO This is indeed worrying. If it is confirmed then these may be the first cases of Zika-associated microcephaly in the Asia/Pacific region. But I don't see how it suggests a "cover-up" when it was publically announced by the Minister of Public Health? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cook my sock Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 The government are so far claiming the microcephalic cases are not linked to zika. But I thought zika didn't show up in Blood tests after a certain point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 The Ministry of Public Health is not claiming that. They said it was ruled out in two cases but another two cases are still under investigation. The Zika virus will only show up in blood test during the acute illness, but antibodies form within a week and, as far as is known, remain for life. The 2 cases still under investigation showed antibodies to a family of viruses which includes Zika but also includes Dengue and some other things, now more antibody tests need to be run specifically for the Zika antibodies. Those tests are new and costly and I am not sure they have them in country, might have to send the specimens abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotBkk Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Swine flu, bird flu, SARS, ... Zika... What will be the next hysteria? Dog flu? Personally, I think it's a walk in the park compared to H.I.V - that's Real Hysteria so relax ....., TAT will have it covered soon with their computer virus Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cook my sock Posted October 2, 2016 Author Share Posted October 2, 2016 Confirmed it's the 'bad' strain.. but they are claiming the two cases weren't from / in Bangkok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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