Jack100 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Can I have my old pounds back now please ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aright Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 On 27/11/2017 at 9:36 PM, SheungWan said: It would appear that the Government hasn't a clue how to deal with the Irish border issue in any confident way other than to attempt to supposedly use it as a bargaining chip for a trade deal. The UK government has said it doesn't want a hard border, but throw that in with the vaunted claim that Brexit was about the UK controlling its border with the EU and the whole project turns to mush. No wonder the forum Hard Brexiteers don't even go near the negotiations. The real world is too much for them. Crash out much simpler. What excellent insight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautifulthailand99 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Jack100 said: Can I have my old pounds back now please ? I think we can all agree on this. I'd be happy with 50 tbh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 4 hours ago, aright said: Finally. An admission that leaving the EU gives you a reasonable degree of contentment As I say, the way this is going is reasonably OK for everyone. The new deal must be approximately the same as the old but with fewer benefits and a large price! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Jack100 said: Can I have my old pounds back now please ? No. The Brexiters took them. For what? Precisely F all. Watch for the facile justifications.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 2 hours ago, aright said: What excellent insight! Not so fast Batman. Unfortunately even the Hard Brexiteers did not have an immediate solution to the Irish Question if a hard pullout had ended the negotiations. Northern Ireland is the albatross that will not go away. Let us assume that the last election had not happened and the DUP was not pulling any strings, even then there is still a mess. Bottom line? The UK is not a single island even though the Brexit project dreams that it is. Brexit dreams have the EU starting at Calais looking East. Sort of forgot that it is in the West. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 34 minutes ago, SheungWan said: Not so fast Batman. Unfortunately even the Hard Brexiteers did not have an immediate solution to the Irish Question if a hard pullout had ended the negotiations. Northern Ireland is the albatross that will not go away. Let us assume that the last election had not happened and the DUP was not pulling any strings, even then there is still a mess. Bottom line? The UK is not a single island even though the Brexit project dreams that it is. Brexit dreams have the EU starting at Calais looking East. Sort of forgot that it is in the West. "Holy Shamrocks, Ireland is west of Calais! Holy Geography, bits of France are even west of Land's End too! Oh no....look at Spain...and............... Holy Portugal!" - Robin "Remember Robin, always look both ways." - Batman "Holy strawberries Batman! We're in a jam!" - Robin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aright Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Talking about being in a jam. I think we can leave Brexit now and resume our conversations in Feb when Remainers can set about second guessing and adopting wrecking manoeuvres for the trade talks. Perhaps between now and then we can put the EU( the altar at which Remainers pray) under the microscope. Its such a trouble free environment. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-politics/german-conservatives-reject-united-states-of-europe-ahead-of-coalition-talks-idUSKBN1E30KH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, aright said: Talking about being in a jam. I think we can leave Brexit now and resume our conversations in Feb when Remainers can set about second guessing and adopting wrecking manoeuvres for the trade talks. Perhaps between now and then we can put the EU( the altar at which Remainers pray) under the microscope. Its such a trouble free environment. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-politics/german-conservatives-reject-united-states-of-europe-ahead-of-coalition-talks-idUSKBN1E30KH Hände hoch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 40 minutes ago, aright said: Talking about being in a jam. I think we can leave Brexit now and resume our conversations in Feb when Remainers can set about second guessing and adopting wrecking manoeuvres for the trade talks. Perhaps between now and then we can put the EU( the altar at which Remainers pray) under the microscope. Its such a trouble free environment. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-politics/german-conservatives-reject-united-states-of-europe-ahead-of-coalition-talks-idUSKBN1E30KH Bizarre. Brexiters routinely complain that Germany is planning somehow to force the EU to become a United States of Europe and in this article we see that the most popular political party in Germany is against it. Thanks for providing such strong evidence against this calumny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 10 hours ago, Orac said: Worth bearing in mind that Norway, as a useful example of what is possible, has a hard border between itself and Sweden despite being in the single market and Schengen area since it is not in the Customs Union allowing it to set its own tariffs and do trade deals. Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app And it contributes mightily to the EU for the privilege of being in the single market. Not much less on a per capita basis than the UK. https://fullfact.org/europe/norway-eu-payments/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aright Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 27 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said: Bizarre. Brexiters routinely complain that Germany is planning somehow to force the EU to become a United States of Europe and in this article we see that the most popular political party in Germany is against it. Thanks for providing such strong evidence against this calumny. Yes and we are still making the same complaint and how successful has this party been. Germany hasn't had a Government since September. Juncker and Barnier have publicly stated they want more federalism. A good reason to get out if you ask me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SheungWan Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 20 minutes ago, aright said: What goes on in Hard Brexiteer minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 'Roasted scallops with butternut cream'. The race to close the Brexit deal: https://tinyurl.com/y99e4qpg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aright Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 16 minutes ago, SheungWan said: What goes on in Hard Brexiteer minds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip99 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 57 minutes ago, SheungWan said: What goes on in Hard Brexiteer minds. That is something that YOU will never comprehend.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Interesting article in the Grauniad: https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/low-skills-low-pay-really-170012197.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 44 minutes ago, Khun Han said: Interesting article in the Grauniad: https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/low-skills-low-pay-really-170012197.html Aw! That's nice! Something to give you a little comfort! Meanwhile, back in the real world, the sun has got his hat on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aright Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Great people talk about ideas, average people talk about things, and small people talk about hats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 The shiny-faced gimp that the globalists parachuted into the parliamentary Labour party admits that Labour's soft brexit is a no brexit: https://uk.news.yahoo.com/labour-apos-brexit-plan-see-104855315.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 If ever we wanted it putting into a few words why the EU is an abomination, it's here, from the horse's mouth: "He said Britain will have to respect all EU laws during the transition, as well as as respect its budgetary commitments and the bloc's judicial oversight." https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/1208/925856-deal/ How on earth did Europe end up in this godawful mess in which a completely artificial and unnecessary tier of bureaucracy is dictating to sovereign countries? Ted Heath take a bow. I hope all that illicit fun was worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvinmelvin Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, Khun Han said: If ever we wanted it putting into a few words why the EU is an abomination, it's here, from the horse's mouth: "He said Britain will have to respect all EU laws during the transition, as well as as respect its budgetary commitments and the bloc's judicial oversight." https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/1208/925856-deal/ How on earth did Europe end up in this godawful mess in which a completely artificial and unnecessary tier of bureaucracy is dictating to sovereign countries? Ted Heath take a bow. I hope all that illicit fun was worth it. he is using quite strong and optimistic language that Irish chieftain, he just might be in for a surprise when things are going to be put in writing and subjected to approval in EU's upper bodies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simoh1490 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 5 hours ago, Khun Han said: Interesting article in the Grauniad: https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/low-skills-low-pay-really-170012197.html A strange article, the title has almost nothing to do with the content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Khun Han said: The shiny-faced gimp that the globalists parachuted into the parliamentary Labour party admits that Labour's soft brexit is a no brexit: https://uk.news.yahoo.com/labour-apos-brexit-plan-see-104855315.html Sounds good to me ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 hours ago, melvinmelvin said: he is using quite strong and optimistic language that Irish chieftain, he just might be in for a surprise when things are going to be put in writing and subjected to approval in EU's upper bodies He came across as a breath of fresh air when he first came to prominence. But his smirky cockiness is going to bite him (or his successor) on the ar$e before these dealings are finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 7 hours ago, Jip99 said: That is something that YOU will never comprehend.... Me neither! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 If ever we wanted it putting into a few words why the EU is an abomination, it's here, from the horse's mouth: "He said Britain will have to respect all EU laws during the transition, as well as as respect its budgetary commitments and the bloc's judicial oversight." https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/1208/925856-deal/ How on earth did Europe end up in this godawful mess in which a completely artificial and unnecessary tier of bureaucracy is dictating to sovereign countries? Ted Heath take a bow. I hope all that illicit fun was worth it.When you join a club you help to set the rules and then should be expected to abide by them! Unfortunately when we come crawling back and begging to be let back in, we will be in a far weaker position.Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vogie Posted December 11, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: When you join a club you help to set the rules and then should be expected to abide by them! Unfortunately when we come crawling back and begging to be let back in, we will be in a far weaker position. Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Which rules would they be then, the rules when we joined or the rules we have now? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, vogie said: Which rules would they be then, the rules when we joined or the rules we have now? We were on t' committee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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