Briggsy Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 America has gone insane. There are so many jobs of every type nowadays where ethical standards are an integral part of the position. From factory workers having to follow the various rules and regulations for the safety of all to members of professional bodies having to remember and navigate a large minefields of no-no's relating to client relationships and government regulation. And then we get this. This is really too weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Here's a bio of Trump. I recommend it. It's fun to watch. . . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 In the abyss........ So is an accident? Or a calculated disaster to provide the possibility for a future "rational" administration? If the world can survive to it ! The greatest distraction to it all? WAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xircal Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 7 hours ago, elgordo38 said: Even the Donald would not be that stupid. If I were him I would say "Give the job to Pence I'm out of here" His ego won't let him resign. He's a borne and bred narcissist who thrives on adulation and flattery. Give up being photographed with all those business leaders and heads of state who will be coming to meet him both before and after his inauguration? No way, baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKr Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 4 hours ago, Rob13 said: Running 2 massivve businesses is the same as running one? If you consider all as yours, it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opl Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Xircal said: His ego won't let him resign. He's a borne and bred narcissist who thrives on adulation and flattery. Give up being photographed with all those business leaders and heads of state who will be coming to meet him both before and after his inauguration? No way, baby. From the link you shared : Vice President-elect Mike Pence said: “I’m very confident that the President-elect and his extraordinary talented family are going to work with the best legal minds in this country and create the proper separation from their business enterprise during his duties as President of the United States.” I guess everyone working for this administration will have to be totally in line. Or is M. Pence always so oily? "extraordinary talented family " Too much flattery is like insult to your intelligence ... Edited November 24, 2016 by Opl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubster Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 7 hours ago, boomerangutang said: Below is a quote from this web site re; gifts given to Obama while he is/was prez. . . . On Lankawi Island in Malaysia, there's a large building which displays the thousands of gifts given from over a hundred world leaders, to former prez Mahathir. It includes solar vehicles. Oddly, there are no gifts from the US on display. So it is legal, We can dig dirt on anybody, but we should suck it up and support our elected officials at least until they make a mess of things, if they do. If Trump doesn't do the right things he will likely not get reelected. I'm tired of the two party hate each other politics and I hope Trump rises above that. If not, back to the voting booth. Remember he was not supported by either side of the isle in this election. That says a lot about what he may do to expose congress for the bunch of swindlers they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubster Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 6 hours ago, NeilSA1 said: Was the Statue of Liberty given to a president, in his personal capacity, or his country? Therein lies the difference. Do you really think Trump wants the club, Don't you think it would be an insult to refuse it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 (edited) 10 hours ago, DriveByTrucker said: Can we conclude that the complete lack of any reaction from Trump supporters in this thread mean that they too expect that this might become Trumps' downfall? Or are they just completely out of BS arguments to defend the inevitable diarrhea of corruption that the presidency of the Great Orange One will bring...... No you can't conclude that. We are all out making money, like President Trump rather than sitting around speculating on this nonsense. We've never had a President like him before. Let's wait and see rather than lynch him before he his inauguration. Edited November 24, 2016 by MadDog2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xircal Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Opl said: From the link you shared : Vice President-elect Mike Pence said: “I’m very confident that the President-elect and his extraordinary talented family are going to work with the best legal minds in this country and create the proper separation from their business enterprise during his duties as President of the United States.” I guess everyone working for this administration will have to be totally in line. Or is M. Pence always so oily? "extraordinary talented family " Too much flattery is like insult to your intelligence ... They can say lots of things, but we live in the digital age now and with apps like Signal - recommended by Edward Snowdon incidentally - communicating secretly without leaving any trace affords the Trump family ample opportunity to communicate with their father and get hold of some spicy tips on how to capitalize on forthcoming foreign or domestic policy changes which will add a few more million $$$ to the Trump kitty. I'm sure Trump has thought of that too and being an avaricious individual he's unlikely to allow the opportunity pass him by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Xircal said: They can say lots of things, but we live in the digital age now and with apps like Signal - recommended by Edward Snowdon incidentally - communicating secretly without leaving any trace affords the Trump family ample opportunity to communicate with their father and get hold of some spicy tips on how to capitalize on forthcoming foreign or domestic policy changes which will add a few more million $$$ to the Trump kitty. I'm sure Trump has thought of that too and being an avaricious individual he's unlikely to allow the opportunity pass him by. Thanks for pointing out that only Trump will take that opportunity, and Hilary would never ever have considered that possibility. NEXT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opl Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Xircal said: They can say lots of things, but we live in the digital age now and with apps like Signal - recommended by Edward Snowdon incidentally - communicating secretly without leaving any trace affords the Trump family ample opportunity to communicate with their father and get hold of some spicy tips on how to capitalize on forthcoming foreign or domestic policy changes which will add a few more million $$$ to the Trump kitty. I'm sure Trump has thought of that too and being an avaricious individual he's unlikely to allow the opportunity pass him by. Right ... brains are not as waterproof as M. Pence seems to believe.. There will be leaks, There will be insider trading There will be conflict of interest but as D. Trump says : lawsuits are part of the costs for running business .. Because we are talking about big big big business, America. inc under Trump.inc governance Edited November 24, 2016 by Opl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xircal Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, Opl said: Right ... brains are not as waterproof as M. Pence seems to believe.. There will be leaks, There will be insider trading There will be conflict of interest but as D. Trump says : lawsuits are part of the costs for running business .. Because we are talking about big big big business, America. inc under Trump.inc governance Lawsuits may well be a part of running a business and especially so in Trump's case, but he's not running a business now: he's running the most powerful country in the world and needs to be squeaky clean while he's doing it. That's going to prove the most difficult task he's ever had to accomplish I suspect and unlike one of his defunkt businesses, he won't be able to declare bankruptcy when his policies lead to mass unemployment and inflation goes ballistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opl Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 (edited) D.Trump will "load the mule" of his predecessor with the ten plagues of Egypt Edited November 24, 2016 by Opl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 A post with an improper quote has been removed. Do not quote in such a fashion that you change the meaning of the quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xircal Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 (edited) 6 hours ago, boomerangutang said: Here's a bio of Trump. I recommend it. It's fun to watch. . . . . . Brilliant! Thanks for posting that. Trying to move the tenants out of the building he bought by threatening them (34:34 in the video) certainly shows what kind of a guy Trump is. I'm glad he was overruled. Also, the part called "Making Waves in Palm Beach" which starts at 47:05 with Trump demanding that the city relocate the airport somewhere else because the noise from aircraft taking off and flying over the property was disturbing him is outrageous. City officials must have thought he was a complete nutter. How on earth he got elected to the country's highest office is a complete mystery. But given all the furor over Trump's own accusation that the election was rigged if HRC had won, the question has to be asked whether it is possible to manipulate the result, only this time in Trump's favour: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/could-hillary-clinton-appeal-us-election-results-hacking-russia-claims-wisconsin-a7433221.html Edited November 24, 2016 by Xircal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrilla Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) 13 hours ago, stevenl said: There you go, post #24. Oh, I'm awfully sorry, yes this is the 'precrime' thread.. ...not crimes already committed to be investigated and tried Edited November 25, 2016 by Thrilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silurian Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 A closer look into Donald's ties with Russia should also be considered. Russia sure went out of its way to try to get Donald into the White House. I doubt they did it just for kicks and giggles. Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election, experts say https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/russian-propaganda-effort-helped-spread-fake-news-during-election-experts-say/2016/11/24/793903b6-8a40-4ca9-b712-716af66098fe_story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 19 hours ago, DriveByTrucker said: Can we conclude that the complete lack of any reaction from Trump supporters in this thread mean that they too expect that this might become Trumps' downfall? More like the left have cried wolf so much that no one is listening to their nonsense anymore. That is how the Donald got elected president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 One of tens of thousands of actions expected by Trump fans in upcoming years. A Tibetan/Bhutanese couple who have been American citizens for 6 years. Mr. and Mrs. Dorjee own two small restaurants and put on a popular ethnic festival annually in their small upstate NY town. Since Trump was elected, Dorjee has been called 'a chink' twice, and his car has been vandalized, and he's been given 'the finger' - by different sets of rednecks. http://www.northcountrypublicradio.org/news/story/32951/20161117/harassed-afraid-a-north-country-immigrant-fights-back-with-love A "NEW AMERICA" .....with Trump in charge. ....or maybe it's like old times, in line with Trump's motto; 'sound bite; Make America Great Again.' 'Great', like when? ....like Jim Crow days? ....like the 1950's with McCarthy's witch hunts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Let me toss this into the hopper: Donald Trump is not yet the president. He is still a private citizen until January 20. So I assume this means he can take all the "gifts" he wants, doesn't need to turn them over to national archives, nothing. So listen up countries wanting undue influence: get your "gifts" in now while you can! Donald is a bit busy now, so will write "thank you" notes later, sometime late January..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 20 hours ago, DriveByTrucker said: IMO you're spot on. There are three reasons he wants to be president: It elevates his ego into the stratosphere He can enrich himself beyond anything imaginable It elevates his ego into the Mesosphere The second one is what is going to kill him politically What happens to the ego when he is facing impeachment? mark my words: he will be impeached or forced from office. if he doesn't start a war before then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 A poster mentioned; "Trying to move the tenants out of the building he bought by threatening them (34:34 in the video) certainly shows what kind of a guy Trump is. I'm glad he was overruled." Boomer responds: That's a microcosm of the many bad things Trump will do after Jan 20th. As easily as he bullied low-income tenants out of their rent-controlled apartments, he will bully migrants (going thru the process of trying to get green cards) out of the US. Trump is 'a president for all the people' like I'm Mike Tyson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob13 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 6 minutes ago, geriatrickid said: What happens to the ego when he is facing impeachment? mark my words: he will be impeached or forced from office. if he doesn't start a war before then. I can't see him lasting more than 2 years. Too many conflicts of interest among other things. So far he has the lowest approval rating of any incoming pres. It will be hard for him to get past that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 28 minutes ago, geriatrickid said: What happens to the ego when he is facing impeachment? mark my words: he will be impeached or forced from office. if he doesn't start a war before then. You may be right, but, then again, you may not. How many on here swore that he would never win the election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 29 minutes ago, boomerangutang said: he will bully migrants (going thru the process of trying to get green cards) out of the US. Trump is 'a president for all the people' like I'm Mike Tyson. You're right, he should set the doors wide open for immigrants, and make from the US the same lovely continent Europe is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveByTrucker Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Ulysses G. said: More like the left have cried wolf so much that no one is listening to their nonsense anymore. That is how the Donald got elected president. You are still confusing "the left" with Clinton. There is a serious difference between what "the left" wants and what Clinton stands for. Of course it will take a tiny bit of self education to understand that difference, and I understand that some people are so convinced of their own believes that they ignore any kind of rationale. The reason Trump got elected was because after Bernie was scammed out of a change to run for president, Trump took the idea(ls) from the left and made them part of his election program. Had Bernie ran for president, the socialist ideals would have been his program (I trust there are no arguments there as that was exactly what he preached during the primaries), and Trump would have played "the communist" card. The fact that Clinton iso Bernie got the nomination attracted the working class (left) voters to Trump and that made Trump win ao Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania! So basically Trump got elected because of what you call "the left nonsense"! I am still wondering why you support Trump if not for "the left nonsense". The Wall? The Anti Muslim position? The support Trump gets from the Alt-right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Clinton is a left-winger and the liberal media supported her. Splitting hairs about how left-wing she really is, is absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveByTrucker Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Just now, Ulysses G. said: Clinton is a left-winger and the liberal media supported her. Splitting hairs about how left-wing she really is, is absurd. So what you are saying is that Bernie Sanders stands for the same as Hillary Clinton? clueless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveByTrucker Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said: Clinton is a left-winger and the liberal media supported her. Splitting hairs about how left-wing she really is, is absurd. How about Trumps left wing nonsense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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