Death penalty proposed for officials guilty of Bt1 bn graft

[arrowsdawdle]

Death penalty for corrupt officials? There won't be any left. It will be officide.

[elgordo38]

5 hours ago, leeneeds said:

Do amounts above 1 billion receive extra death penalties?

what if you appeal, on the first count 1 billion but get found not guilty 

but get found guilty on the third billion, does the second billion not come into play?

or is all this nonsense,

 

Your answering your own question. Its a scare tactic to keep the political field narrow and like a horse race where one guy owns all the horses guess who the winner is. 

Edited January 8, 2017 by elgordo38

[canthai55]

2 hours ago, robblok said:

If politicians can't make money from being in government they won't be willing to unleash violence on their opponents and they won't be buying positions because its not worth it financially.

 

Tell me one country on planet Earth where this does not happen ! No need to single out any nationality same-same everywhere.

[Reigntax]

4 hours ago, robblok said:

No way to prove it was or was not.. but fact is without YL her armed wing killing kids (4) and other protesters there would be no excuse for the army to stage a coup. They brought it on themselves. Not to mention that the police under YL did nothing against the violence.. only telling the protesters to go home (just what the government wanted). I think letting lose a violent armed wing on your own civilians (be they from the opposite side) is far worse then a coup. 

 

The military will always have control while they can fool some into believing and supporting their cause.

Edited January 8, 2017 by Reigntax
Typo

[JAG]

5 hours ago, Reigntax said:

Does that include military graft, treason, corruption and people smuggling?

As the great Hercules Grytpype-Thynne (of Goon Show fame) might well have observed:

 

"You silly twisted boy, you!" 

 

Edited January 8, 2017 by JAG

[robblok]

2 minutes ago, Reigntax said:

 

The military will always have control while they can fool some into believing and supporting their cause.

The military is in control because of the mistakes YL made (or Thaksin as she was his puppet). Without the amnesty and the violence the redshirts released on the protesters there would have been no excuse to step in. The incompetence of PTP made it easy for the army. 

 

No way to know how it would have gone otherwise or if it had even happened.. it was an opportunity created by the PTP. Now if they just held a coup without good reason and support from a large part of the populace a lot more resistance would have been met. So I am not convinced that it would have happened or to this extent without the arrogance and mistakes of the PTP. 

[ChrisY1]

4 hours ago, Polanskiman said:

This can't possibly get any more ridiculous and insulting to society. Most rapists and murderes don't even get death penalty.

The Bt1 bn threshold was probably a set average that most politician don't reach. Pathetic.

Here's the profile of Monsieur The Chairman of the steering comittee:
https://hris.parliament.go.th/ss_detail.php?ssp_id=7961&lang=en
It had to be lawyer!

He's also the chairman of the road safety organisation......and that's a failure!

[Squeegee]

4 hours ago, robblok said:

No way to prove it was or was not.. but fact is

 

[jesimps]

5 hours ago, robblok said:

Would be good if it included graft in the military too. Treason is not corruption this is about corruption from violence. besides saving the country from violence by a coup is not treason. YL should have controlled her armed wing better and avoided the violence.

".......besides saving the country from violence by a coup is not treason."

 

It is when you and your mates kicked the whole thing off in the first place. The utter drivel that comes out of the mouth of you fanboys is sometimes breathtaking. There are times that I think you even believe it yourselves.

[Becker]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

I still prefer it above sending an armed wing of a party (think Sinn Fein and IRA for a comparison) to bomb and kill protesters and telling the protesters to go home because nothing can be done to protect them (Charlem said that). Give me an army over a party that does that kind of stuff. Don't say they are not connected.. because at a redshirt meeting there where high ranking PTP leaders at the time they cheered for the attack in Trad (usually people don't cheer for false flag operations). 

 

As I said they all brought it down on themselves.. no Thaksin amnesty and no violence and the army would not have an excuse at all to step in. (they could have tried but it would have been far more opposed)

You keep claiming that if there hadn't been violence then the army wouldn't have "had" to overthrow the legal government. But what about the other 18 coups before this one? Did they also "have" to do those coups? 

Another claim of yours is that since there was no general uprising after the coup there was widespread support for it. Tell me, after which coup was there ever a general uprising in Thailand (you know, the country where people are told from an early age to listen and obey)? I believe the answer is; none. Does this mean there was widespread support for every coup?

You do remember that the junta leader declared martial law and that any resistance would be met with deadly force?

[Bob12345]

52 minutes ago, robblok said:

The military is in control because of the mistakes YL made (or Thaksin as she was his puppet). Without the amnesty and the violence the redshirts released on the protesters there would have been no excuse to step in. The incompetence of PTP made it easy for the army. 

 

No way to know how it would have gone otherwise or if it had even happened.. it was an opportunity created by the PTP. Now if they just held a coup without good reason and support from a large part of the populace a lot more resistance would have been met. So I am not convinced that it would have happened or to this extent without the arrogance and mistakes of the PTP. 

Was it really an opportunity created by PTP or was it an opportunity created by the army who used Suthep as middleman to create the protests and violence in the first place?

A bit as Suthep admitted the case was?

 

Or you forgot about that part?

[FritsSikkink]

5 hours ago, Becker said:

No, treason is not corruption, it's much worse. And to overthrow the elected and royally endorsed government and tearing up the constitution certainly deserves the most severe of punishments.....unless one gives oneself a blanket amnesty that is.

The coup was not instigated to save the country from violence. That's a fairy tale that has been discredited a loooong time ago.

The coup ended all the violence, stop moaning 

[Chip Allen]

Excellent idea.  Also, all military officials who overthrow elected governments should get the death penalty, as well.

[Raymonddiaz]

Little brother Thailand always copies big bro China.

[Lannig]

Indeed. More and more carbon copy of China's ways.

We all know where it has taken them society-wise.

Not sure all people who are applauding here would like to wake up in small China tomorrow. But they hardly realize what this means.

[phantomfiddler]

I would say that our man on tour was doing that much in a day :)

[sahibji]

good beginning. it is drastic but necessary.

 

[Raymonddiaz]

3 minutes ago, sahibji said:

good beginning. it is drastic but necessary.

 

killing is never necessary..........

[BSJ]

Surely they meant a million???

[yellowboat]

7 hours ago, robblok said:

That is the end of YL and of course those that are tied in the fake G2G deals. Too bad it won't happen it would be a great deterrent. 

It is not advisable for a country that enjoys shortcuts to the rule of law and due process.   It would be like taking steroids.

[yellowboat]

49 minutes ago, Chip Allen said:

Excellent idea.  Also, all military officials who overthrow elected governments should get the death penalty, as well.

It is just painful to watch is it not ?  The buffoonery of the current and unaccountable military government trying to make future governments accountable.   They have NO moral high ground whatsoever to judge or sentence others, but act as if they do.  They are just more equal than others and there inlays the problem.  They who wanted this coup need some deep reflection as it could have grave consequences.     

[Kiwiken]

Will be made retrospective to include TS but all Politicians after will be exempt except PT members who are more guilty than the Paragons of virtue seeking to and currently Governing.

[Baerboxer]

5 hours ago, baboon said:

Once the miscreant has been chosen, I am sure the amount he has embezzled can be adjusted accordingly.

 

No one has yet managed to produce any real figures on the rice scheme. Every figure is disputed and no one ever produces accounts for public consumption.

 

Would you believe any figures issued here without independent verification?

 

Reminds me of the fun I have asking Mrs BB to explain her budgets and accounts 555!

[JAG]

1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said:

The coup ended all the violence, stop moaning 

 

That didn't require a coup.

 

All that required was the Police and Military doing their jobs, and stopping the violence....

 

In the case of the yellows it would have only required a quiet word. In the case of the reds a little bit more work, but entirely within their capabilities - 230,000 policemen and 310,000 active duty servicemen?

 

They chose to have a coup, because they or more accurately their masters, saw power slipping away. If they had stopped the violence and allowed the election to happen then they would have lost their chance to take back power.

[baboon]

25 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

No one has yet managed to produce any real figures on the rice scheme. Every figure is disputed and no one ever produces accounts for public consumption.

 

Would you believe any figures issued here without independent verification?

 

Reminds me of the fun I have asking Mrs BB to explain her budgets and accounts 555!

"Would you believe any figures issued here without independent verification?"

 

No, quite frankly.

[Broken Record]

9 minutes ago, JAG said:

In the case of the yellows it would have only required a quiet word. In the case of the reds a little bit more work, but entirely within their capabilities - 230,000 policemen and 310,000 active duty servicemen?

 

They chose to have a coup, because they or more accurately their masters, saw power slipping away. If they had stopped the violence and allowed the election to happen then they would have lost their chance to take back power.

Bingo !

They were ordered to have a coup by the people who really run Thailand.

 

This is why the Generals are allowed to get away with massive corruption, they are all under the threat of investigation into their massive wealth, they have no choice but to do as they are told, or lose it all.

 

The Elite have got it sewn up.

Edited January 8, 2017 by Broken Record

[steve73]

I'm sure the road fatalities cost the country more than 1Bn bt.  Now who's the transport minister? 

[little mary sunshine]

Another waste of time story!

[Eric Loh]

12 minutes ago, JAG said:

 

That didn't require a coup.

 

All that required was the Police and Military doing their jobs, and stopping the violence....

 

In the case of the yellows it would have only required a quiet word. In the case of the reds a little bit more work, but entirely within their capabilities - 230,000 policemen and 310,000 active duty servicemen?

 

They chose to have a coup, because they or more accurately their masters, saw power slipping away. If they had stopped the violence and allowed the election to happen then they would have lost their chance to take back power.

 

Excellent rebuttal. 2010 situation was more dire and violent. NO COUP. Why?

[Eric Loh]

Always worth a chuckle when these junta appointed committee try to talk tough. Sycophants trying to follow their dear brother with his tough talk and fake promises. Let's see them take on the top uniformed officials. Maybe just suggest at the top of the reform list, the overhaul and reform of the RTP and. RTA. Let's see how tough and credible they are.