chrissables Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 4 hours ago, chrisinth said: I will have no sympathy for these two when they are caught and really do hope they do time for this. For anyone thinking this is a trivial matter, try doing this to your own national flag in your home country....................... Totally agree, but look at all the Thai girls wearing shorts etc with the flag of UK or USA, NEVER a Thai flag. Why? Because it shows disrespect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmacee Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 More vandalism and probably drunken behaviour rather than disrespect ..But this is Thailand and they like to play the nationalist ticket ...when it suits them. Way of distracting from the real issues .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, Zatoichi said: Right and if you punched me in the teeth for disrespecting your mother by tossing down her picture from the wall and stepping on it, would I not deserve it? Is it wrong for you to love your mother, even if she made her mistakes? Ofcourse not, bottom line, they were in Thailand, tore down the flag, the people here respect their nation and place a value on it's symbolism. It's not entrapment, nobody forced those jerk offs to tear down all those flags. They chose to, for no benefit other than to feel important, special, perhaps above the law. Not like there was any money in the crime. You seem to have a thing about mothers. I don't have a picture of my mother on the wall. If you behaved like a vandal in my house and destroyed anything on purpose i would throw you out. If you wanted to verbally insult my mother,well that's up to you, just don't kick her she would beat you up. The men were drunk and behaved badly, vandalism isn't nice, it's destructive and that is the crime they should answer for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bermannor Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Respect or Disrespect, that is the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnlightenedAtheist Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Maybe we could look for underlying issues here. Why are those kids getting drunk (if they did) to the point that they do act silly? Why do they drink to get drunk? Why do generally get drunk? But, drinking alcohol is a very lucrative business. At least we are safe between 2 and 5. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSF Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Some years ago I was a teacher in a Thai primary school, I was in the classroom one day with the Thai teacher. On the wall behind us were pictures of the Thai flag. I saw one little kid had a cold and he had one of those bandannas they sell in the markets, this one was the Union Jack and the kid was wiping his nose with it. So I said to the Thai teacher. "What if I took the Thai flag and wiped my face with it and blew my nose on it, is that OK? So she replied. "No cannot, you must respect the Thai flag." So I then said. "Well I'm British and that's my country's flag and that kid is using my flag as a snot rag." So she told the kid to stop using the bandanna and put it away. I didn't really care but just wanted to make a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, chrissables said: Totally agree, but look at all the Thai girls wearing shorts etc with the flag of UK or USA, NEVER a Thai flag. Why? Because it shows disrespect. Mate, you seem to be rather pre occupied with Thai girls wearing Union Jack shorts, I have never seen any, but you do quite often mention it, Where do you see all these Thai girls wearing Union Jack shorts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Just now, sanemax said: Mate, you seem to be rather pre occupied with Thai girls wearing Union Jack shorts, I have never seen any, but you do quite often mention it, Where do you see all these Thai girls wearing Union Jack shorts ? I saw a girl wearing them on Soi Cowboy. Short shorts. I saw and I got on with my life. I have excellent blood pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midasthailand Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Not at all sympathetic to these two, drunk or not, you should realize that you are in one of the most Xenophobic countries on earth and if you disrespect their national flag you gt everything you deserve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Dough Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 They might live to realise that they were lucky the flag was red, white and blue, and not yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, LannaGuy said: oh you mean no screams for putting them in jail like on this thread? ok got it! They are two very different situations and so they get a different response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amykat Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 44 minutes ago, Zatoichi said: So is a photo of your mother, but best believe if I was a guest in your house I wouldn't rip it off the wall and step on it. I don't know you or her, but I know that picture means something too you, and out of simple human decency and common sense, I respect the things in your home whilst I'm your guest. Usually he would only have ONE photo his Mother, and it isn't something that can just be produced on a factory line ad infinitum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Zatoichi said: Not at all, given the evidence. But then it doesn't really matter what I think about the sentences. I'm not Thai, I don't vote here, I'm a guest, have been for over 15yrs, I respect the country, powers that be, and the faith and I never had any problems. This was totally avoidable, it's not like they got drunk and got into a argument that lead to a fisticuffs with a taxi driver. No, they decided to disrespect the flag for what? youve assimilated just fine, I hope you stand to attention everyday at 8am and 6pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissables Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, sanemax said: Mate, you seem to be rather pre occupied with Thai girls wearing Union Jack shorts, I have never seen any, but you do quite often mention it, Where do you see all these Thai girls wearing Union Jack shorts ? Preoccupied? Maybe you are mixing me up with another person? Or my memory is shot to pieces :) Although i do not go to the bars these days, when i did i saw them all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 4 hours ago, chrisinth said: I will have no sympathy for these two when they are caught and really do hope they do time for this. For anyone thinking this is a trivial matter, try doing this to your own national flag in your home country....................... I could buy a UK flag, lay it out in my garden and urinate on it, a pretty stupid act admittedly, but I would not be prosecuted for a crime. The crime here is vandalism ... and if caught they deserve to be punished and fined for it. I don't like what they did but I think people get overly emotional about flags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 18 minutes ago, psyvolt said: So I take it then you would have no problems if I want to one of your relatives graves, and desecrated the headstone, cause you know- according to you, it's only some stone or concrete with no meaning behind it. I don't know where any of my relatives graves are, funerals are depressingly hypocritical and weddings end up in a drunken brawl (and you have to buy presents) so i stay away from both. You are right though, headstones are only stone and mean nothing to the dead but it is vandalism, wanton destruction for the sake of it shows a juvenile or in this case an inebriated mind. I rather liked the comment from Mark Twain when asked if he had attended a certain funeral, he said "No, but i sent a card saying that i approved of it'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Allen Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Always a witch hunt. Flags are not people. Nationalism is poison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyvolt Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 1 minute ago, AlexRich said: I could buy a UK flag, lay it out in my garden and urinate on it, a pretty stupid act admittedly, but I would not be prosecuted for a crime. Different countries different rules. Surely that's not that difficult to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 22 minutes ago, sanemax said: The general consensus was that it wasnt OK for them to parade like that It was just a gimmick and they apologised and vowed not to do it again Which shows "pieces of cloth" do have significance why didnt they go to jail or get fined then?..........oh i forgot it wasnt a "Thai" uniform or emblem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 4 hours ago, DP25 said: Hope these guys are caught and punished. And even in countries that allow flag desecration, they allow it only with a flag that YOU own. You can't go around attacking flags that belong to other people. And in other countries you can't go around setting people's garbage pails on fire either. Would you call that garbage pail desecration? No, it just destroying private property. Which is illegal in most places as is destroying public property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 1 minute ago, psyvolt said: Different countries different rules. Surely that's not that difficult to understand. It's not difficult to understand, but that doesn't mean that we should all buy into it. The danger with certain rules is that they can be twisted and used to persecute people ... as several politicians have found out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, kannot said: why didnt they go to jail or get fined then?..........oh i forgot it wasnt a "Thai" uniform or emblem I dont think that is any offense to wear those clothes, you cannot prosecute people if they havent broken any laws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 25 minutes ago, thai006 said: why only death of 6 million jews, what about polish people , france people, german people not die only them really ? OK they also caused the death of a lot of other people, happy now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex8912 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 They seem pretty harmless and did apologize. Maybe they were just feeling Krabi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 58 minutes ago, dcnx said: It amazes me how many people get bent out of shape over their country's mass produced (often in China) cloth. Nationalism is almost as bad as organized religion. How dare you say that........................nothings worse than organised religion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 1 minute ago, sanemax said: I dont think that is any offense to wear those clothes, you cannot prosecute people if they havent broken any laws you can in Thailand you just invent something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 1 minute ago, kannot said: How dare you say that........................nothings worse than organised religion LOL ... and you have an "I love Jesus" avatar? Is Jesus your Spanish boyfriend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Just now, kannot said: you can in Thailand you just invent something You cannot just make laws up in Thailand and then apply them . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 47 minutes ago, sanemax said: Yes, its logo for a Country , which gives it significance . It signifies a Country and the message was "This is what we think of Thailand" It also wasnt their property to damage. They weren't giving out any message other than 'we are young full of zest and drunk' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 19 minutes ago, sanemax said: They are two very different situations and so they get a different response yes of course... one involved Thais marching down the street in public (not drunk as far as we know) the other foolish farang behaviour whilst drunk but we know who may well get locked up don't we? very fair in your view no doubt as you're a BAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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