Hi,
 I originally entered Thailand in Oct on a visa exemption which I then extended. Through my own idiocy I overstayed by 1 day. I spent 2 weeks elsewhere and returned to Thailand on another visa exemption. I have had a trip to Vietnam planned but just about everything that could go wrong has gone wrong and at the moment It looks like I'll have to cancel the whole thing.
 Would I encounter any issues requesting an extension on a second exemption with in a 4 month period? My flight out of Thailand back to the UK is on the 31st Jan if they ask I can show the ticket.

 Thanks for any help and advice.

No problem to get another 30 day extension of your exempt entry. The is restriction on how many you can get over any amount of time other than only one per entry.

Thanks for your quick response, ubonjoe that's very helpful and reassuring to know that is an option. Thanks.

Hello again sorry for double posting. I have just been to the same immigration office, prachuap khiri khan immigration in hua hin, that I used earlier in my trip.

I completed the TM 7 and TM 28 as I had to before but when my documents were checked before taking a number I was told "not enough need hotel paper" I gave the hotels name and full address on both forms but they said it was not enough. I asked at my hotel but they did not understand what they needed to give me.

 Thus isn't something I've encountered before what is it they are asking for?

4 minutes ago, Gorey said:

Thus isn't something I've encountered before what is it they are asking for?

A TM30 form. http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/download/pdf/tm30.pdf

Make sure you have extra Baht in your wallet because I foresee what is coming here if no TM30 has been lodged previously. 

Thanks again ubonjoe. I didn't realise I needed to provide that from the hotel in person.

Edited January 12, 20179 yr by Gorey

There is no legal requirement for YOU to provide a TM30 form.

 

But like many ohther things in Thailand when the Thai hotel operators are not doing their job by reporting your entry to Thailand , you as the Farang are paying for their inaction.

Forunately for me, my residence here in Bangkok actually reports on line when I return from a trip outsude Thailand.

Believe it or not, there is a Fillipina woman at the front desk that does that on line as part of her job.

 

 

Is it not becoming ridiculous now ?? Yeah ok.. 'even more' perhaps should be in there.. 

 

TM30 for commercial hospitality place, eg hotels, and still giving fines !! Asking for paperwork, which cannot be produced by the hotel as the immigration network is down for weeks, and still fining on that.. 

 

I have my limits, and being told I have to pay a fine for a hotel not doing what a hotel is obligated to do, would be well and truly past mine. 

1 minute ago, IMA_FARANG said:

Believe it or not, there is a Fillipina woman at the front desk that does that on line as part of her job.

 

and how is she managing that for the last few weeks ?? 

1 hour ago, IMA_FARANG said:

There is no legal requirement for YOU to provide a TM30 form.

But like many ohther things in Thailand when the Thai hotel operators are not doing their job by reporting your entry to Thailand , you as the Farang are paying for their inaction.

 

It is unfortunate more so that it seems few people at this particular immigration office were aware of the new requirement. Combined with nothing about it being needed displayed visably at the office.
My hotel isn't willing to complete a form for me insisting they have already reported my being there. They don't seem to understand why I need one either.

13 minutes ago, Gorey said:

My hotel isn't willing to complete a form for me insisting they have already reported my being there. They don't seem to understand why I need one either.

Ask them for proof they reported you or to call immigration about it. They may of reported your presence online when you first arrived.

Im sure they have already reported my being there.

More confusingly I passed back by on my way else where and went to double check what was required and pointed to the TM30 forms and I received an emphatic "NO" and the phrase "hotel paper hotel address" repeated and pointing at the hotel address on my tm7 and tm28 says again "not enough". All the staff acknowledged something was missing but none could explain what.

5 minutes ago, Gorey said:

Im sure they have already reported my being there.

More confusingly I passed back by on my way else where and went to double check what was required and pointed to the TM30 forms and I received an emphatic "NO" and the phrase "hotel paper hotel address" repeated and pointing at the hotel address on my tm7 and tm28 says again "not enough". All the staff acknowledged something was missing but none could explain what.

Perhaps they just want a receipt for the hotel showing the address on it.

3 hours ago, LivinLOS said:

Is it not becoming ridiculous now ?? Yeah ok.. 'even more' perhaps should be in there.. 

 

TM30 for commercial hospitality place, eg hotels, and still giving fines !! Asking for paperwork, which cannot be produced by the hotel as the immigration network is down for weeks, and still fining on that.. 

 

I have my limits, and being told I have to pay a fine for a hotel not doing what a hotel is obligated to do, would be well and truly past mine. 

The problem is that the TM30 needs to be done. Someone MUST do it or it is us that pay the fines....As I found out. I have been in and out of the country since the early 1980's and owning property here too. In September I decided to come and stay. I went to Jomtien immigration as I thought I may just as well get it sorted due to the reports being stated. First question from immigration after looking at my passport 'Why you come to Thailand so many times and no TM30'? I tried to explain that I had only just heard of the requirement, although secretly I knew the law existed but nobody ever bothered. There answer was that everybody coming in to Thailand needs to know the immigration laws. They then pulled up a computer screen going back 5 years showing me every single entry in and out of the country I had made.Now whether this information comes from your passport or a TM6 entry I don't know. To go back 5 years in my case either the previous passports are linked or indeed they are entering information on the system from the TM6 as this passport I have now is only 2 years old. She asked where I had been staying on these entry's? I said sometimes my Condo but sometimes in hotels if I am travelling around. She showed me the last time I was reported which was 3 years ago by a hotel in Hua Hin and since that time I had 15 entry's and exits.Now during this 3 year period only, I must of stayed in at least 8 or 10 hotels incl Novotel, The Landmark, The Pattaya Hilton, Fraser suites Bangkok and others but not one of them had reported me. To cut the storey short, the fine was 4000bht. I did object by saying surely the hotels need to report me but her answer was yes but you need to make sure it's done if not you pay the fine. I said I find that unfair and her answer was would I like her to go back further than 5 years and increase the fine? I said, no, it's ok 4000bht seems reasonable 
I received an official receipt and also a Glossy leaflet printed as being from the Royal Thai Police Immigration Division 3 which explains the rule.....but it's all in Thai but I can make out some horrendous figures from 200bht to 1 millionbht but no doubt the leaflet contains other information and the penalties involved. If the forum wants to see it I think I can scan it. I asked what I need to do to avoid a future fine and was told that on EVERY entry to the country a TM30 must again be logged even if returning to my own Condo because I would have a different TM6 when and if doing a 90 day report and they would see that was different from a previous entry and anyway she seemed to indicate that any dealings with Immigration and they look at your entry and exit history so would see if the TM30 was logged or not. I have never ever done a 90 day report as I travel in and out a fair bit anyway but I may need to do one in the future. She also said if I leave Chon Buri province for anymore than 24hrs again, the TM30 needs to be logged on my return as where ever I stay needs to log me in. Great! I don't do the hastle of a 90 day report because of travelling but I can do a TM 30 report instead. I asked could it be done online she said yes BUT if it's lost in the system I get a fine. I since asked the Condo management to set up a reporting system which they have done.( I was led to believe that private individuals cannot do it) I went out of the country 4 weeks ago for 7 days and on my return they reported me and printed me a receipt for the report. In that case a hotel can do the same for people to see that they have actually reported you. To make sure it worked as it should, I then went to Jomtien immigration within 24hrs of my return to check if the system actually worked. It did and I never had to fill the form in again. They then gave a me another receipt to say it had been received ( Which the reporting system used by hotels and Condo management cannot do) and said to keep it with the TM6 and passport.
When you enter immigration to report a TM30 don't waste time at the reception desk. Go straight in and past the desks and seats where everyone is waiting. Turn right and go upstairs and the office dealing with the TM30 inquiry's is directly in front of you. Just walk straight on in.
On a side note I have heard of people getting bigger fines up to 5000bht there. A guy from Singapore in the same Condo block as me shelled out 12000bht for him, his wife and daughter. I have no idea of the daughters age but she looks over 15 so have no idea how old children need to be to have this rule applied to them. I hope this post go's some way to let people understand how Jomtien are applying this rule. I have a friend in Ubon who's immigration office are applying the rule exactly the same but I see other immigration offices apply it different.If the mods want to move the post to a more appropriate thread great but please don't delete it as it's taken me an hour to compile it 
I realize that as an owner I was still going to be fined for not reporting myself and along with the hotel failing, I was on a loser anyway but I  just wanted to make it clear to users that the majority of the time, hotels are NOT reporting you so be aware.
Once again I hope this helps anybody dealing with Jomtien immigration.

Edited January 12, 20179 yr by Lovethailandelite
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I do wonder just how many places I've stayed over the years that have never reported my arrival. 

I'll be going back in the morning with all I can imagine I'd need with a Thai friend to help with any potential explanations. Maybe it'll turn out to be a one off given how things can often be at the varying immigration offices. If it is as simple as a receipt or booking voucher (as redundant as that is) I hope they find a better more effective way of communicating that to people in the future as there were plenty of people turned away for the same reason not entirely sure what they were missing.

 Thanks again for your assistance and responses.

Would be interesting and helpful to others that need to deal with Hua Hin immigration to know the outcome of this?