5 hours ago, daveAustin said:

Trump would sound so much better if he says something like, 'we should do all we can to help struggling Syrians but all the other opportunists should be turned around'.

 

That was Obama's job! 

Edited January 16, 20179 yr by CharlieK

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2 hours ago, Grouse said:

 

No matter how kind Trump is he should remember that German children are always kinder ?

 

Boom tish! Ho ho!

Edited January 16, 20179 yr by NumbNut

7 hours ago, Andaman Al said:

But when Streep says it like it is  - Not Great.

 

Trump - President Elect Of The United States

Streep - Actress

58 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It's not Trump's job to tell Europe what to do, but he is right that they have done the wrong thing.

However, he could have suggested returning them to where they could safely reach the land they left, which would not have been hard, OR, taking them to a barren land where they could be kept safe, fed, sheltered and housed ( till they decided to go back home ). The Australians have proven the second option is viable and works in stopping more coming.

 

He also said the invasion of Iraq was the worst mistake in US history. So, right on both counts then. Must be on a roll.

3 minutes ago, dageurreotype said:

He also said the invasion of Iraq was the worst mistake in US history.

Fake news.

He originally supported the war.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/29/politics/donald-trump-howard-stern-iraq-war/

But then he wasn't running for elected office.

 

I think he could have replaced the word 'mistake' with 'decision' but what the hell,it was a decision that turned into a huge mistake.

I think that the trumpet and faragey are going to be the bestest mates.

For once, I actually agree with Mr rump. Merkel allowing unfettered immigration into Germany has caused a crisis in Europe and is partially responsible for  Brexit and if it continues it will cause the break up of the EU. I see Trump as sitting down with Putin of Russia and coming up with a realistic plan to end the Syrian war. The Us and Russia working together providing safe zone for refugees; money from the Arabs being used to rebuild Syria and supporting the in place refugees. As far as the status of Assad- Trump will say who cares- unlike Obama who insisted he had to go. Russia will be more inclined to work with Trump who they believe they can deal with than the Chinese.

As far as Germany and Merkel- I will be surprised if she can be re-elected but then again most people didn't believe Trump would be elected.

The biggest loser of the Syrian refugee crisis, along with many of the refugees, is Turkey.  Especially anti-Erdogan people. Demographically, politically and securitywise. The mostly-uncontrolled move of millions of refugees into Turkey is going to be very costly for us secularists.

 

 

I think that Merkel did make a catastrophic mistake.  Should have been checks and balances instead of just opening up the borders.  I am sure this will have consequences for her in the future and damage her chances for re-election.

5 hours ago, roobaa01 said:

mr president donald trump is 100 % right , merkel abused her office by breaking the law and letting hundreds of thousand illegal muslim freeloaders into the country from safe countries like hungary. merkel acted to the  damage of germany and its native people. moreover with the muslim freeloaders terror, crime, sexual violence came and were increasing tremendously. thereto these illegal muslim  freeloaders are mainly young men between 25 to 35 years old illitrate, hence of no use to a developped country like germany . mainly they ar sucking social welfare as figures for hartz 4 ( sociall benefitts) 2015 345 000 syrrians, 293000 tuerks, 80.0000 afghans, 16.000 iraquis, 14700 somalians.

 

 

wbr roobaa01

 

 

repeating this over and over again makes it not true anyway.

And Trump aint wrong. Merkel has upped the terrorist threat to Europe exponentially with her stupidity. And far worse, she's trying to bully the rest of us in Europe, through her EU goons, into sharing the threat.

Trump is absolutely correct in his judgement that Merkel made a bad midsjudgement

19 minutes ago, Aachen said:

 

 

repeating this over and over again makes it not true anyway.

Nobody is doubting that the influx of migrants has caused a plethora of brutal terrorist atrocities and sexual assaults(do you really want a list?!)in Germany. What is being debated by both political sides is whether this mayhem is the result of the migrants ideological and cultural background and behavioral norms, or if the violence is a reaction from the migrants to a right wing element in the host nation that is perceived to be unwelcoming and thus caused the migrants to behave in an antisocial and violent fashion. And further to cure the violence, should the host nation continue to import the group responsible for the violence or should it control media reports and crack down on opposing views on the internet and hope the violence magically goes away.

This is outrageous. Merkel  ought to release a tweet any minute now. Oh, wait...

9 hours ago, Emster23 said:

Did Trump offer an alternative plan, a different way he would have handled it? Machine guns them at the borders? Sink them at sea? Probably okay with him as they are "losers"....

 

At least he didn't offer building a wall in the middle of the Mediterranean Sea.

1 hour ago, dunroaming said:

I think that Merkel did make a catastrophic mistake.  Should have been checks and balances instead of just opening up the borders.  I am sure this will have consequences for her in the future and damage her chances for re-election.

Let's hope so, let us see how she disappears in shame

13 hours ago, Thaidream said:

For once, I actually agree with Mr rump. Merkel allowing unfettered immigration into Germany has caused a crisis in Europe and is partially responsible for  Brexit and if it continues it will cause the break up of the EU. I see Trump as sitting down with Putin of Russia and coming up with a realistic plan to end the Syrian war. The Us and Russia working together providing safe zone for refugees; money from the Arabs being used to rebuild Syria and supporting the in place refugees. As far as the status of Assad- Trump will say who cares- unlike Obama who insisted he had to go. Russia will be more inclined to work with Trump who they believe they can deal with than the Chinese.

As far as Germany and Merkel- I will be surprised if she can be re-elected but then again most people didn't believe Trump would be elected.

 

Merkel has not allowed 'unfettered immigration' to Germany. Anyone linking asylum seeker access to the UK to Brexit is misinformed, that includes the 'leave' propaganda and Trump. Numbers of asylum seeker access to the UK is a sovereign country decision, not dictated by the EU.

 

The US has constantly declined 'safe zones' in Syria as it was estimated at least 15,000 US troops would be required on the ground; do you believe Trump would agree to place a significant number of troops in Syria or for example Syria would permit that number of Turkish troops to protect safe areas? Why would Sunni Arab countries engaged in a proxy war with Syria be motivated to financially assist the Alawite dictatorship of Assad to rebuild infrastructure, although they do provide billions to support refugees in places such as Jordan.

The biggest loser of the Syrian refugee crisis, along with many of the refugees, is Turkey.  Especially anti-Erdogan people. Demographically, politically and securitywise. The mostly-uncontrolled move of millions of refugees into Turkey is going to be very costly for us secularists.
 
 

The biggest loser in the refugee-crisis are the refugees...duh!


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16 hours ago, TankerWeams said:

Nobody is doubting that the influx of migrants has caused a plethora of brutal terrorist atrocities and sexual assaults(do you really want a list?!)in Germany. What is being debated by both political sides is whether this mayhem is the result of the migrants ideological and cultural background and behavioral norms, or if the violence is a reaction from the migrants to a right wing element in the host nation that is perceived to be unwelcoming and thus caused the migrants to behave in an antisocial and violent fashion. And further to cure the violence, should the host nation continue to import the group responsible for the violence or should it control media reports and crack down on opposing views on the internet and hope the violence magically goes away.

 

repeating this over and over again makes it not true anyway.  (86% of Germans feel save. Foreign press is just a limited view for all believing readers.) Our refugees did not harm anyone in my town. Some tourists are more strange in their behavior. By the way: dieing by car accident has a much higher probability.

Edited January 17, 20179 yr by Aachen

Ive just finished watching Austin Powers.If you watch the Trump speaking to the masses,he makes exactly the same hand movements as Doctor Evil.

Ive just finished watching Austin Powers.If you watch the Trump speaking to the masses,he makes exactly the same hand movements as Doctor Evil.

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On 16/01/2017 at 2:05 PM, Srikcir said:

Fake news.

He originally supported the war.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/29/politics/donald-trump-howard-stern-iraq-war/

But then he wasn't running for elected office.

 

 

No haha, wait! You're quoting CNN as the 'news' source? 

On 1/16/2017 at 7:37 PM, simple1 said:

 

3.5 million UK civilians were evacuated from at risk areas during WW11. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evacuations_of_civilians_in_Britain_during_World_War_II

 

Cannot compare to the organisation efforts of HMG to minimise civilian casualities, to the disastrous state of affairs within the Syrian borders

Most of those civilians were evacuated further north in the UK. They didn't pay traffickers to take them all to America. Then, when the children were old enough they would have been expected to join the forces or other organisations to support the war effort.

Interesting analysis of the European Immigrant crisis from this American commentator.