1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

 

The Amnesty Bill, the version that favored Thaksin only failed because PTP were removed from power. Had they have been able to hang on to power they would undoubtedly have voted it into law, ignoring the Senate and the protesters.

 

News flash - try researching reality rather than Shin propaganda.

And you know that for a fact.

Just the facts ma'am if you don't mind.

7 hours ago, webfact said:

said the people in the country must have unity first, must respect the law and abide by the law.

The people only of course. WOW Suthep has returned speaking tough. Wonder whats up his sleeve the cunning bleep.

Edited January 18, 20179 yr by elgordo38

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

 

The only reason it didn't occur was because PTP were removed from power.

 

Really?

 

I thought any new law even if passed by parliment required, as a last and final process, royal endorsement.

 

And what balances and checks were undertaken by the military when they enforced a blanket amnesty upon themselves, to do, conduct, remove, detain, search, abuse anyone or anything whether for self benefit or not and for a period of time determined by themselves.

 

The sooner people wake up and realise the root cause of most of Thailands issues are caused by the military, the sooner the country can progress from a SE asian brothel.

Edited January 18, 20179 yr by Reigntax
Typo

So Suthep still sees himself as part of the solution, rather than part of the problem. Reconciliation is neither attainable nor necessary. What is required is normalisation, which will not be achieved unless both Suthep and Thaksin are removed from the equation. This would allow Pheu Thai to become a regular left-of-centre party without having to kowtow to the Shins, and the Democrats a right-of-centre party not having to kowtow to the former yellow shirts. With the smaller parties there to curb any excesses in coalitions, a normal democratic government without vested interests could hopefully govern for the good of the Country.

Problem solved, but who will tell them to go?

 

Suthep has had his 15 minutes of fame. No one cares what he does or says now. Isn't there a new breed of politicians by now? Why do we have the same players in the news every week. With 65 million Thais to choose from some new blood please!

"He voiced his disagreement with any proposal for amnesty for lese majeste offenders and offences regarding corruption and heinous crimes. "

 

He talks about corruption. The big hypocrite!!

 
The Amnesty Bill, the version that favored Thaksin only failed because PTP were removed from power. Had they have been able to hang on to power they would undoubtedly have voted it into law, ignoring the Senate and the protesters.
 
News flash - try researching reality rather than Shin propaganda.

Had they been "returned to power" in the completely constitutional election which Suthep and his thugs blocked then maybe they could have reintroduced the bill. But of course they would be doing that having gained the consent of the people. Can't have that, can we now, the people being allowed to have a say...

Suthep won't sign because he will of course return to the streets with his goons (sorry - security guards) within weeks of Phu Thai forming a government. One might say that by refusing to sign he is actually showing a hitherto unrevealed adherence to some sort of principles!

I can somehow imagine an alternate version of the OP - "For unity to be attained, the people in the country must reconcile first, must respect each other and accept different points of view". Guess the two versions can be switched as needed.

6 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

Only it wasn't rejected was it, not by the Yingluck administration.

The substance of the amnesty itself was not rejected but rather the Constitutional Court rejected the process used to pass the bill. If Yingluck had remained in power, the bill could have been resubmitted to Parliament in compliance with the Constitution. It would then fall to the minority Democrats to gather public support to convince sufficient parliament opposition to the bill's passage. Instead the Democrats abandoned the constitutional democratic processes to operate outside the law to not only shutdown the government but to force an undemoctratic and unconstitutional regime change.

Public respect for the rule of law went out the window when the military replaced the 1997 charter, which had been written with the consent of the people, with the 2007 one, written by military-picked elites and passed under duress. Seems pretty simple that you can't expect people to respect and follow laws they had no part in enacting. 

The "raison d'être" of people like Suthep was to stir up violent troubles in order to create the conditions of a coup. Now that there is a built-in system of "coup without coup" in the new constitution, he is not needed any more.

Edited January 18, 20179 yr by candide

Doesn't look too promising an initiative if the military can't even persuade its main co-conspirator to sign up.