snoop1130 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Don't brew beer at home (or in toilet), Prayuth says By Asaree Thaitrakulpanich, Staff Reporter Gen. Prayuth Chan-ocha is what you might call a water man, at July 26, 2016 photo taken at the Government House in Bangkok. Photo: Government House BANGKOK — Gen. Prayuth Chan-ocha used his podium at Government House on Tuesday afternoon to slam craft beer, saying rules forbidding making beer at home ensure hygiene and safety. Long-brewing sentiments frothed into public consciousness last week when a man was arrested for making and selling from his Nonthaburi home, leading the junta chief to pour cold water on calls for more freedom in the market. Full Story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/business/2017/01/31/dont-brew-beer-home-toilet-prayuth-says/ -- © Copyright Khaosod English 2017-1-31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Yep only 2 mega rich beer producers are allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watso63 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 The one thing I miss about the UK is real ale and craft cider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyhangmon Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Yeah, soldier, we know ... good in upholding generous monopoly - the law, well, not so much ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) “You can’t just brew it in the back of a shop, in the back of your house, or in your toilet,” Prayuth said. “There have to be rules and regulations.” Clearly has no idea how well organised the set up of the guy, who was arrested last week, was. Edited January 31, 2017 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Hygiene and Safety....Laughable. Has he eaten from a street vendor lately that washes up all day in the same bucket of water ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai3 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Actually Thailand does not produce real beer at all, just weak, fizzy and mostly tasteless imitations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 23 minutes ago, johng said: Yep only 2 mega rich beer producers are allowed. And they're also allowed to pay the police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 10 minutes ago, thai3 said: Actually Thailand does not produce real beer at all, just weak, fizzy and mostly tasteless imitations. It does give real headaches though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilacme Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 If the beer making process lacks the smallest amount of hygiene then the beer will go bad, smell like eggs, and be undrinkable. So the case of hygiene and safety is a non starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piersbeckett Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 25 minutes ago, Thian said: It does give real headaches though. Granted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyhangmon Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 29 minutes ago, Tilacme said: If the beer making process lacks the smallest amount of hygiene then the beer will go bad, smell like eggs, and be undrinkable. So the case of hygiene and safety is a non starter. Hush, what has truth (or logic) got to do with it? Alternative facts from the uncle ... well, they where always quick to 'copy' ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaltsc Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) Quote “There used to be a lot of moonshine going around. Could they control the quality, the hygiene, or the strength of it? Big breweries can but can small brewers?” Prayuth said. Source: article linked to in the OP Once again he proves he has no idea what he is talking about and is talking through his....or, he is just preventing competition for the large Thai breweries that are producing arguably the worst beer in Asia. The process of distilling moonshine and the brewing of beer are totally different. Usually, with distilling, the first 20% of the alcohol to come out needs to be tossed. However, Thai moonshiners, being maximum profit motivated, divide the 20% among all the bottles they fill. And there is a substantial risk to drinking the product when this is done. Beer, on the other hand, obtains its alcohol from the yeast converting malt sugars into alcohol, and never hits the distillery. If beer does go bad, it will have a very unpleasant odor and off taste.. Even if one drinks it, there is little chance of becoming seriously ill. Edited February 1, 2017 by Maestro added source for the quoted text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Does anyone know if Beer Leo have changed their ingredients? Haven't had it for a while and sunk 5 bottles last Friday night. Woke up with the worst headache. Was similar to a Changover. Never had that problem before. As for him telling people not to brew their own - absolutely. People might discover what a real beer can taste like and not wanna buy the sub par few beers on offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Offensive posts and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 54 minutes ago, Tilacme said: Quote If the beer making process lacks the smallest amount of hygiene then the beer will go bad, smell like eggs, and be undrinkable. So the case of hygiene and safety is a non starter. Correct I do make my own beer in OZ I spend hours cleaning my equipment otherwise it will be off so you can ban me but that guy is an arfffhole and knows nothing about the real world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PT Paul Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 The water in toilets probably has better flavour than anythjng that Singh Corp brew, even Chang is more drinkabke these days than the other crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon43 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 It does give real headaches though. That'll be the Formalyne that they put in the beer to increase the shelf life, (same as injecting Formaldhyde into dead bodies to preserve them until the funeral) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brer Fox Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Only proves what a tosser he is! How lucky the Thai people are to have Prayut as their supreme commander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I always thought Donald Trump was an arehole (I think he is ) but this guy takes the cake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 43 minutes ago, jaltsc said: “There used to be a lot of moonshine going around. Could they control the quality, the hygiene, or the strength of it? Big breweries can but can small brewers?” Once again he proves he has no idea what he is talking about and is talking through his....or, he is just preventing competition for the large Thai breweries that are producing arguably the worst beer in Asia. The process of distilling moonshine and the brewing of beer are totally different. Usually, with distilling, the first 20% of the alcohol to come out needs to be tossed. However, Thai moonshiners, being maximum profit motivated, divide the 20% among all the bottles they fill. And there is a substantial risk to drinking the product when this is done. Beer, on the other hand, obtains its alcohol from the yeast converting malt sugars into alcohol, and never hits the distillery. If beer does go bad, it will have a very unpleasant odor and off taste.. Even if one drinks it, there is little chance of becoming seriously ill. Incorrect! Any fermentation that is not anaerobic produces methanol instead of ethanol. Even home brew beer has the potential to kill! Distillation only increases the potential unless the methanol is combined with ethanol. Open bath brewed beer has done a lot of damage in history as has moonshine. My take is that the warning is not about the brewing but the profiteering aspect. Many Thai home brew despite the law. Much of it is not beer . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, thai3 said: Actually Thailand does not produce real beer at all, just weak, fizzy and mostly tasteless imitations. Clearly you haven't sampled the craft beer produced in those boutique workshops in Nonthaburi. I can assure you, they were easily comparable to fine ales that CAMRA would approve. What an idiotic prime-ministerial move to shoot down a promising cottage industry that could have been the envy of many other countries! Thailand 0.4 entrapped by its own fears and absurd fantasies of control. What next? Outlaw home cooking? Edited January 31, 2017 by Morakot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyhangmon Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Oi, seems someone stirred up a wasp's nest with that move ;-) Bad uncle, no cookie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 17 hours ago, Thian said: It does give real headaches though. How true. Some of the worst headaches I have had came after drinking Singha many years ago. I now absolutely refuse to drink Singha. I also like to avoid any Thai beer and go for the German imports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 15 hours ago, Morakot said: Clearly you haven't sampled the craft beer produced in those boutique workshops in Nonthaburi. I can assure you, they were easily comparable to fine ales that CAMRA would approve. What an idiotic prime-ministerial move to shoot down a promising cottage industry that could have been the envy of many other countries! Thailand 0.4 entrapped by its own fears and absurd fantasies of control. What next? Outlaw home cooking? Don't give the moronic general any ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 31 minutes ago, Morakot said: Clearly you haven't sampled the craft beer produced in those boutique workshops in Nonthaburi. I can assure you, they were easily comparable to fine ales that CAMRA would approve. What an idiotic prime-ministerial move to shoot down a promising cottage industry that could have been the envy of many other countries! Thailand 0.4 entrapped by its own fears and absurd fantasies of control. What next? Outlaw home cooking? Nonthaburi may be the source of some great beers which must either be being produced on some scale or secretly to your priviledged knowledge. However you ignore the nub of my comment. Is it not practical to advise at least officially that the random home brewing of anything is deemed illegal in the vague hope that it will avert many instances of methanol poisoning by profiteers down a back street or road. There seems to be an increasing number of boutique wineries that have obviously satisfied appropriate legitimacy. Surely a legitimate beer producer could achieve same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elkski Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) All the Two Thai beeropolie need to doto be scared of lost profit is see how much the craft brew industry has cost the Big three brewer in the USA... they have lost market share and had to buy up many of these breweries. Home brew is very easy to make,, my 40 l system is top quality.. I even add O2 to my wort before pitching the yeast... it is 90% dish washing.. but I got quite good at making fine beer. My belly at the time showed the extra 7 kg too. I never sold any of my beer though... American lifestyle and resources sometimes leaves one with lots of spare time to take up hobbies like this but I am afraid the avg Thai would be inclined to sell it. I kegged my beer in the Cornies like the guy last week. (soda syrup 5 gal kegs) If a guy could get the magic 4 ingredients, good malted barley, water, hops, and yeast I am sure it would taste better than all the mega swill in Thailand. Sanitation is easy. I mean everything is boiled for 60 mins at least. But water chemical content and quality have a big impact. But surely there are some good fresh water springs up north?? Edited January 31, 2017 by Elkski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyhangmon Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 33 minutes ago, Elkski said: All the Two Thai beeropolie need to doto be scared of lost profit is see how much the craft brew industry has cost the Big three brewer in the USA... they have lost market share and had to buy up many of these breweries. Home brew is very easy to make,, my 40 l system is top quality.. I even add O2 to my wort before pitching the yeast... it is 90% dish washing.. but I got quite good at making fine beer. My belly at the time showed the extra 7 kg too. I never sold any of my beer though... American lifestyle and resources sometimes leaves one with lots of spare time to take up hobbies like this but I am afraid the avg Thai would be inclined to sell it. I kegged my beer in the Cornies like the guy last week. (soda syrup 5 gal kegs) If a guy could get the magic 4 ingredients, good malted barley, water, hops, and yeast I am sure it would taste better than all the mega swill in Thailand. Sanitation is easy. I mean everything is boiled for 60 mins at least. But water chemical content and quality have a big impact. But surely there are some good fresh water springs up north?? Now, that sure sounds tasty. Hoho, mega-swill is the fitting expression for that local brew-ish over here ;-) They might have learned how-to over in Germany but must have forgotten most of it. Tragic. Ja mein Herr, sure some fine water up north if one avoids 'civilization' as far as possible, a bit hard (limy) in places maybe. You're stateside at the moment? Utah? Loved it, actually pretty all of the US, was pre-9/11 though. 1130pm over here, i'm about to lay myself out, Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Amazing that the two major brewers in Thailand can't come up with a range of decent beers to satisfy the tastes of their "captive" customers. With their economies of scale and duopoly they could cut any microbrewery competition dead - instead they are continuing to produce a mediocre product and rely on protectionism to maintain their market share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I like to brew my own coffee is that still allowed or do I have to go out and buy a cup of Nescafe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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