Exclusive: Trump's travel ban polarizes America - Reuters/Ipsos poll

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Exclusive: Trump's travel ban polarizes America - Reuters/Ipsos poll

By Chris Kahn

REUTERS

 

Activists march to protest against President Donald Trump's travel ban in Portland, Oregon, U.S. January 30, 2017. REUTERS/Steve Dipaola

 

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Americans are sharply divided over President Donald Trump's order to temporarily block U.S. entry for all refugees and citizens of seven Muslim countries, with slightly more approving the measure than disapproving, according to a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll released on Tuesday.

 

The Jan. 30-31 poll found that 49 percent of American adults said they either "strongly" or "somewhat" agreed with Trump's order, while 41 percent "strongly" or "somewhat" disagreed and another 10 percent said they don't know.

 

But the responses were split almost entirely along party lines. Some 53 percent of Democrats said they "strongly disagree" with Trump's action while 51 percent of Republicans said they "strongly agree."

 

Trump's executive order banned refugees from entering the United States for 120 days, and it placed an indefinite hold on Syrian refugees. It also blocked citizens from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen.

 

The president, who campaigned on a promise to bring what he called "extreme vetting" to the nation's immigration system, said the order he signed on Friday was meant to protect the country and its borders. "This is not a Muslim ban," he said.

 

But confusion over who was covered by Trump's order left travellers, airlines and foreign governments scrambling to get clarity from U.S. officials, many of whom were also bewildered.

 

The Reuters/Ipsos poll found 31 percent of Americans feel "more safe" because of the ban, compared with 26 percent who said they felt "less safe." Some 38 percent said they felt the United States was setting "a good example" of how best to confront terrorism, while 41 percent said the country was setting "a bad example."

 

Democrats were more than three times as likely as Republicans to say that the "U.S. should continue to take in immigrants and refugees," and Republicans were more than three times as likely as Democrats to agree that "banning people from Muslim countries is necessary to prevent terrorism."

 

Most Americans, however, don't think the country should show a preference for Christian refugees, as Trump has suggested.

Some 56 percent, including 72 percent of Democrats and 45 percent of Republicans, disagreed that the country should "welcome Christian refugees, but not Muslim ones."

 

At the weekend, protesters swarmed major U.S. airports where some immigrants had been temporarily detained because of the order. Lawmakers, including some from Trump's Republican Party, denounced the decision as discriminatory and counterproductive for national security.

 

More than a dozen state attorneys general said they would work together to fight the order, and the top federal government lawyer, Sally Yates, was fired after she refused to defend it.

 

The Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted online in English in all 50 states. It gathered poll responses from 1,201 people including 453 Democrats and 478 Republicans. It has a credibility interval, a measure of accuracy, of 3 percentage points for the entire sample and 5 percentage points for the Democrats and the Republicans.

 

(Reporting by Chris Kahn, editing by Ross Colvin)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-02-01

[Ulysses G.]

Good to know the majority of the country agree with the president. That would be difficult to tell from the news coverage, but that is typical.

[daveAustin]

The snowflakes will soon change their tune when slayings of western folk en masse kick off again... or will they? Who cares.

[Usernames]

Seems as if Trump is winning the PR battle over this.  Not too hard, when Trump's opposition is hordes of anarchists trying to shut down airports and argue for the free movement of people from terrorist countries in the US.  And, like the US election, I bet this poll undercounts Trump support, especially from Trump hating Reuters. 

[SaintLouisBlues]

4 minutes ago, Usernames said:

... hordes of anarchists trying to shut down airports ... 

Never seen this sort of thing anywhere else in the world, ever! Disgraceful

[craigt3365]

1 hour ago, Ulysses G. said:

Good to know the majority of the country agree with the president. That would be difficult to tell from the news coverage, but that is typical.

With the margin of error, it's a close call.  Even so, hardly a resounding majority.  How about Trump try to stop being divisive and pull people together?  Not tear them apart.

[craigt3365]

11 minutes ago, SaintLouisBlues said:

Never seen this sort of thing anywhere else in the world, ever! Disgraceful

You've not been in Thailand very long then....

[SaintLouisBlues]

Just now, craigt3365 said:

You've not been in Thailand very long then....

I'd check whether your Irony Detector is in full working order

[boomerangutang]

57 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

The snowflakes will soon change their tune when slayings of western folk en masse kick off again... or will they? Who cares.

     How many terrorist attacks and/or killings of Americans were perpetrated by anyone from the 8 banned countries?  Answer: NONE.  Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia, which is not banned, provided nearly all the 9-11 murderers plus its mastermind.  And Egypt (also not banned) provided the #2 Al Qaeda boss who allegedly masterminded 9-11.

 

    Also; Trump's recent plan has restricted Green Card holders, which is unlawful.

 

     Each week brings a new slew of law-breaking by Trump and his dufus brigade.  Even his aides say Trump can't concentrate more than a parakeet. He turns on the TV. Doesn't read.  

 

        On the same day he put alchie redneck Bannon on the highest security committee, Trump gave notice that the Joint Chiefs of Staff (military top brass) and heads of FBI, CIA only need to sit in on intelligence meetings which Trump and Bannon deem are relevant to them.  In other words, Trump is telling the top intelligence organizations not to attend top tier meetings unless they're specifically invited by Bannon.  Scary times ahead.

 

      It makes N.Korea look rather liberal.  At least in N.Korea, Fat Boy Kim probably allows his military chiefs to know what's going on with their security concerns.

 

 

Edited February 1, 2017 by boomerangutang

[craigt3365]

58 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

The snowflakes will soon change their tune when slayings of western folk en masse kick off again... or will they? Who cares.

Snowflake is a derogatory term and probably a violation of forum rules.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/nov/28/snowflake-insult-disdain-young-people

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‘Poor little snowflake’ – the defining insult of 2016

 

 

 

 

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Exclusive - Only a third of Americans think Trump's travel ban will make them safer

By Chris Kahn

REUTERS

 

Activists gather at Terry Shrunk Plaza to protest against President Donald Trump's travel ban in Portland, Oregon, U.S. January 30, 2017. REUTERS/Steve Dipaola

 

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Imposing a temporary travel ban on citizens from seven Muslim countries, President Donald Trump said the move would help protect the United States from terrorism. But less than one-third of Americans believe the move makes them "more safe," according to a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll released on Tuesday.

 

The Jan. 30-31 poll found roughly one in two Americans backed the ban, which also suspends admission of all refugees for 120 days, although there were sharp divisions along party lines.

 

Trump has pushed back against critics who say the travel ban targets Muslims. He says the "extreme vetting" is necessary to protect the country and its borders.

 

"This is not about religion," Trump said in a statement after announcing the travel ban on Friday. "This is about terror and keeping our country safe."

 

In the Reuters/Ipsos poll some 31 percent of people said the ban made them feel "more safe," while 26 percent said it made them feel "less safe." Another 33 percent said it would not make any difference and the rest said they don't know.

 

Trump's executive order blocked citizens from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen and placed an indefinite ban on Syrian refugees.

 

Some Republican lawmakers criticised Trump's order and said it could backfire by giving terrorist organizations a new recruitment message.

 

"This executive order sends a signal, intended or not, that America does not want Muslims coming into our country," senators John McCain of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina said in a joint statement.

 

The Reuters/Ipsos poll found that 49 percent of Americans agreed with the order and 41 percent disagreed. Some 53 percent of Democrats said they "strongly disagree" with Trump's action while 51 percent of Republicans said they "strongly agree."

 

Democrats were more than three times as likely as Republicans to say that the "U.S. should continue to take in immigrants and refugees," and Republicans were more than three times as likely as Democrats to agree that "banning people from Muslim countries is necessary to prevent terrorism."

 

Cheryl Hoffman, 46, of Sumerduck, Virginia said she was thrilled that Trump ordered the ban.

 

"I understand that the country was founded on immigrants," said Hoffman, who participated in the poll. "Please, I get that. But I’m worried that refugees are coming in and being supported by my tax dollars."

 

Another poll respondent, Veronica Buetel, 57, of Green, Ohio felt just the opposite: "Yes, we do live in scary times, but there are other, better ways to root out terrorism."

 

Westy Egmont, director of the Immigrant Integration Lab at Boston College, said Americans have grown increasingly hostile towards refugees and immigrants as the influx has shifted from Eastern Europeans to people from countries like Iraq, Somalia and Afghanistan.

 

"The rise of those numbers, as relatively small as they are, have gathered just enough attention to set off a small reaction from people who are genuinely uncomfortable with the diversity around them," Egmont said.

 

Most Americans, however, don't think the country should show a preference for Christian refugees, as Trump has suggested. Some 56 percent, including 72 percent of Democrats and 45 percent of Republicans, disagreed that the country should "welcome Christian refugees, but not Muslim ones."

 

On Tuesday, the Trump administration sought to clarify that citizens of U.S. ally Israel who were born in Arab countries would be allowed into the United States.

 

The Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted online in English in all 50 states. It gathered poll responses from 1,201 people including 453 Democrats and 478 Republicans. It has a credibility interval, a measure of accuracy, of 3 percentage points for the entire sample and 5 percentage points for the Democrats and the Republicans.

 

(Reporting by Chris Kahn, editing by Ross Colvin)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-02-01

[thesetat2013]

     How many terrorist attacks and/or killings of Americans were perpetrated by anyone from the 8 banned countries?  Answer: NONE.  Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia, which is not banned, provided nearly all the 9-11 murderers plus its mastermind.  And Egypt (also not banned) provided the #2 Al Qaeda boss who allegedly masterminded 9-11.
 
    Also; Trump's recent plan has restricted Green Card holders, which is unlawful.
 
     Each week brings a new slew of law-breaking by Trump and his dufus brigade.  Even his aides say Trump can't concentrate more than a parakeet. He turns on the TV. Doesn't read.  
 
        On the same day he put alchie redneck Bannon on the highest security committee, Trump gave notice that the Joint Chiefs of Staff (military top brass) and heads of FBI, CIA only need to sit in on intelligence meetings which Trump and Bannon deem are relevant to them.  In other words, Trump is telling the top intelligence organizations not to attend top tier meetings unless they're specifically invited by Bannon.  Scary times ahead.
 
      It makes N.Korea look rather liberal.  At least in N.Korea, Fat Boy Kim probably allows his military chiefs to know what's going on with their security concerns.
 
 

Your anti trump rhetoric doesn't fathom here. These countries were chosen to be banned and preselected by your Obama administration and then scrapped . They issue passports without checking the authenticity of the people or doing sufficient background checks. They support, finance and train terrorists.
Why allow them into the USA to get American dollars to pay for terrorist activities?
Why take the chance if it is unclear who exactly is actually entering?
Even Thailand makes it extremely difficult for people from certain countries to enter. I don't see you bitching at them.
So a few hundred are caused some inconveniences being turned back at the airports. The only way to initiate a crackdown is to strike fast. Advanced warning would signal undesirables to act fast.
You, of all people, if you are in Thailand, see this happen weekly with thais.
You need to stop being a Trump hater and start looking at the bigger picture.
By the way. Before you start naming me as a Trump supporter or lover, I didn't vote and could care less who is the president. What I do care is that the country takes actions to make improvements inside the USA. Even if that means other countries have to suffer by any actions taken. It is time Americans started to make America a better place to live and if Trump is the man to do it, then more power to him. Certainly Clinton would not do anything except make false promises and bring the country further into decay.

[JHolmesJr]

21 minutes ago, webfact said:

Exclusive - Only a third of Americans think Trump's travel ban will make them safer

 

Judging by this headline, one can assume that the main reason people welcome refugees is because they are scared that not doing so will make them unsafe.

 

[kamahele]

3 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

Good to know the majority of the country agree with the president. That would be difficult to tell from the news coverage, but that is typical.

49 percent is not a majority and not all those included in the  49 percent agree in total. 

[bannork]

Very interesting analysis from Yonatan  Zunger as to Trump's long term goals

https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/trial-balloon-for-a-coup-

https://plus.google.com/+YonatanZunger

[Rhys]

Now the Lawyers of Influence have come, Derskowki (?) commenting the decision that Warren made was a political decision, not a legal decision of facts.  

 

Nice how the interpretation of the law works for both parties.

 

Impeachment ?  Ngah...just more closed airports and protest at Trump's places of business and an attempted that will be sensationalized... where have read this before.

[WaywardWind]

2 hours ago, craigt3365 said:

Snowflake is a derogatory term and probably a violation of forum rules.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/nov/28/snowflake-insult-disdain-young-people

 

 

 

 

So if the term for progressives is snowflakes, then what should term should be used for the others? 

 

Maybe "slushies." Slush is the black melting snow mixed with road grime that one finds in the gutters alongside roads...

 

 

[Stargeezr]

I am hoping that the majority of these protestors, have jobs, and get back to work soon.    This ban will likely not last forever,   try to remember that President Carter also had to put a ban in place when he was in power. Remember also that it was people in the large American cities, who voted for Hillary. It is these people who you see on their sympathetic media news stories, still protesting.  Go to the smaller cities and towns across the US and you will see and hear a completely

different side to this present situation in America. Shame on media companies who still will Not report honestly and fairly. It it time they become Democracy lovers, and not Democrat lovers!   Just my opinion of course

Geezer

[WaywardWind]

As could easily be predicted, people are dying as the result of the ban:

 

Hager said he was returning home with his family that included his sick mom. They were returning home to the United States where his mother has lived since 1995. As they were waiting in line at the airport in Iraq on Friday, he was told that he could pass through because he was a U.S. citizen. But his family members - including his mom - weren't allowed, despite holding green cards.

 

His mother died just one day after being told she couldn't return to the United States.

 

Hager was born in Iraq and fled during the Gulf War. He lived in a refugee camp with his family for four years before settling in the United States. In the 2000s, he returned to Iraq where he worked as a contractor for the United States Special forces between 2003 and 2008 as an interpreter and cultural advisor. He even survived being shot in the back while serving.

http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/232856168-story

 

The people in Detroit are so much safer today.....

 

[Si Thea01]

1 hour ago, kamahele said:

49 percent is not a majority and not all those included in the  49 percent agree in total. 

 

"The Jan. 30-31 poll found that 49 percent of American adults said they either "strongly" or "somewhat" agreed with Trump's order, while 41 percent "strongly" or "somewhat" disagreed and another 10 percent said they don't know."

 

 

You must have a different calculator to me.  49 to 41 with 10 percent not knowing.  I'd suggest  that 9 is higher than one, and despite some not agreeing, as you put it, "In Total" there still a clear majority.

 

According to the writer the phrasing was "Somewhat Agreed",  whilst he listed those who were  included in the lower percentage as the same, "Somewhat Disagreed."  So regardless, they either agreed or disagreed, it doesn't alter the majority percentage, does it?   

 

[craigt3365]

27 minutes ago, WaywardWind said:

So if the term for progressives is snowflakes, then what should term should be used for the others? 

 

Maybe "slushies." Slush is the black melting snow mixed with road grime that one finds in the gutters alongside roads...

 

 

Any term used in a derogatory manner towards other members is a violation of forum rules. 

 

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[craigt3365]

3 minutes ago, Si Thea01 said:

 

"The Jan. 30-31 poll found that 49 percent of American adults said they either "strongly" or "somewhat" agreed with Trump's order, while 41 percent "strongly" or "somewhat" disagreed and another 10 percent said they don't know."

 

 

You must have a different calculator to me.  49 to 41 with 10 percent not knowing.  I'd suggest  that 9 is higher than one, and despite some not agreeing, as you put it, "In Total" there still a clear majority.

 

According to the writer the phrasing was "Somewhat Agreed",  whilst he listed those who were  included in the lower percentage as the same, "Somewhat Disagreed."  So regardless, they either agreed or disagreed, it doesn't alter the majority percentage, does it?   

 

And only 1/3rd thought the order would make them safer....Trump missed the mark on this order.

[WaywardWind]

1 minute ago, craigt3365 said:

Any term used in a derogatory manner towards other members is a violation of forum rules. 

 

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The perhaps the term snowflakes can be relegated to the dustbin?

[alocacoc]

3 hours ago, boomerangutang said:

     How many terrorist attacks and/or killings of Americans were perpetrated by anyone from the 8 banned countries?  Answer: NONE. 

 

Correct. For this to remain to case the ban is needed !

 

Look at the mess in Europe.

[craigt3365]

7 minutes ago, alocacoc said:

Correct. For this to remain to case the ban is needed !

 

Look at the mess in Europe.

There was NO ban for citizens of these countries previously.  And in the past 40 years, ZERO problems.  The US has plenty of other problems that need addressing.  This isn't one of them.  And what's happening in Europe is entirely different.

[WaywardWind]

7 minutes ago, alocacoc said:

Correct. For this to remain to case the ban is needed !

 

Look at the mess in Europe.

So you want Trump to ban refugees and immigrants from Europe?  I am sure that he believes that he has the power to do so.

 

Do you have any idea how difficult the process is to gain access to the US as an immigrant, and even harder, as a refugee?

[Ulysses G.]

19 minutes ago, WaywardWind said:

The perhaps the term snowflakes can be relegated to the dustbin?

 

All for that and all the hateful terms applied constantly to conservatives as well.

[Ulysses G.]

26 minutes ago, Si Thea01 said:

 

"The Jan. 30-31 poll found that 49 percent of American adults said they either "strongly" or "somewhat" agreed with Trump's order, while 41 percent "strongly" or "somewhat" disagreed and another 10 percent said they don't know."

 

 

You must have a different calculator to me.  49 to 41 with 10 percent not knowing.  I'd suggest  that 9 is higher than one, and despite some not agreeing, as you put it, "In Total" there still a clear majority.

 

According to the writer the phrasing was "Somewhat Agreed",  whilst he listed those who were  included in the lower percentage as the same, "Somewhat Disagreed."  So regardless, they either agreed or disagreed, it doesn't alter the majority percentage, does it?   

 

 

Of course not, but don't expect the hair splitting to stop. Some people just won't admit the obvious. More American adults agreed with Trump's order than disagreed in this poll. That is a fact.

 

[Johpa]

So if the term for progressives is snowflakes, then what should term should be used for the others? 

Proud to be called a snowflake by these cornflakes.



Happy Trails

[alex8912]

52 minutes ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

I am hoping that the majority of these protestors, have jobs, and get back to work soon.

  This ban will likely not last forever,   try to remember that President Carter also had

to put a ban in place when he was in power. Remember also that it was people in the large American cities,

who voted for Hillary. It is these people who you see on their sympathetic media news stories, still

protesting.  Go to the smaller cities and towns across the US and you will see and hear a completely

different side to this present situation in America. Shame on media companies who still will

Not report honestly and fairly. It it time they become Democracy lovers, and not Democrat lovers!

 Just my opinion of course

Geezer

I agree but a large majority have no jobs. Their mom and dads pay huge tuitions for them to attend universities in Massachusetts, New York, Virginia, Washington, California etc. Often they have parents who work for huge companies that they also supposedly hate. They have no real life experience unless they hear it from their professors who are usually the older grey hair protestors.  Kind of a one way education.