wreckingcountry Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 What an absolute whacko. Rarely, if ever, have I heard such utter twaddle. And this is your evidence? Of a Coup D'Etat? Seriously? It's Laughable. When Trump is impeached, it will not hand the Presidency to Obama, or even to the Democrats. It goes to the Republican V.P. No one can change that. Not even Obama with a magic hat. Additionally Obama has served two terms. That's it, finished. Can't come back. Sorry, but this post sums up everything that is wrong with the mindset in Donalds fanatical supporters, who believe every story about the terrible Democrats, regardless of how crazy. Focus on the issues of the day, which are numerous and stop looking for a conspiracy in every cupboard. We've got an idiot at the helm already, not going to help if the crew go crazy too. The "crew" is 60 million who voted for him. Most them are wingnuts Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 He's clutching at straws becuae he cannot understand why he is so unpopular... It is everyone else fault but his own... what a clown!Sad!Yes he imagines he's doing us a big favor by acting as president and I do mean acting as in acting badly. He could resign and do us a real favor. Much as I oppose Pence's ideology at least need could bring back a measure of sanity and normalcy to the country and foreign policy as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Probably trump's craziest most dangerous Twitter rant to date? Seriously how do rational people see him as a legitimate president? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/03/06/trumps-twitter-feed-is-a-gateway-to-authoritarianism/?utm_term=.89f4ca45e188&hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumpdebrief-530pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory#comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 13 hours ago, Pakboong said: Levin is far from credible. And there's zero evidence, except as has been reported (created) by nut-job websites as click bait. And it seems to be working. These click bait websites draw some like moths to a light. http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/06/media/mark-levin-joel-pollak-breitbart-trump-obama/index.html Quote An incendiary idea first put forward by right-wing radio host Mark Levin is now burning across Washington, fanned by President Trump's tweets and a huge number of supportive commentators and websites -- even though the facts don't back up the conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pakboong Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 5 hours ago, craigt3365 said: Levin is far from credible. And there's zero evidence, except as has been reported (created) by nut-job websites as click bait. And it seems to be working. These click bait websites draw some like moths to a light. http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/06/media/mark-levin-joel-pollak-breitbart-trump-obama/index.html I don't consider Fox News a credible source either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, Pakboong said: I don't consider Fox News a credible source either. Neither do I. So why did you put this up? More fake news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, kowpot said: Again, Not an impeachable offense. There are plenty of those already related to the emoluments clause but the republican party isn't there yet to put country over party. As far as the Russian connection, we will see. It's not all out there yet. Treason charges might be in order depending on the evidence, but no point yet in jumping the gun. To add, please pay attention. I didn't only say impeachment. trump is acting now like he's CORNERED and there is something really bad that the press and investigators are coming close to uncovering. In such a case, trump may be FORCED to resign or face impeachment. Pence would pardon him anyway, the clown president will never go to prison. Edited March 7, 2017 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijb Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, kowpot said: Again, Not an impeachable offense. Not for lack of trying. grounds for impeachment cover allegations of misconduct peculiar to officials, such as perjury of oath, abuse of authority, bribery, intimidation, misuse of assets, failure to supervise, dereliction of duty, conduct unbecoming, and refusal to obey a lawful order. - - Google Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opalred Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 he is running scared as they are slowly finding the truth about the greatest conman he owes more than his assets are will not show any tax returns that would prove that history will show Putin and his mafia mob loaned him billions so to get moneys out of there own country and invest in usa my experience in life and after employing 1000s people in that time anyone that sits up of a night in a room by themselves tweeting are on drugs or mentally unstable i would say both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowpot Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 17 minutes ago, Jingthing said: There are plenty of those already related to the emoluments clause but the republican party isn't there yet to put country over party. As far as the Russian connection, we will see. It's not all out there yet. Treason charges might be in order depending on the evidence, but no point yet in jumping the gun. To add, please pay attention. I didn't only say impeachment. trump is acting now like he's CORNERED and there is something really bad that the press and investigators are coming close to uncovering. In such a case, trump may be FORCED to resign or face impeachment. Pence would pardon him anyway, the clown president will never go to prison. OK folks a little civics lesson in U.S. government. First of all as has been shown, Liberals go to Google for their information on how the United States government operates and by what laws it must govern. Notice I say must. There is no second options even though the democrats would like you to think so. I as a Conservative, go to the U.S. Constitution for my answers. It is the law of the land and the document that I swore to uphold and defend. Don't care what happens to Google not my problem. The Constitution clearly states as what was affirmed by none other than Nancy Pelosi. To modern readers, the text of the Constitution strongly supports Pelosi. It says that a president may be removed only for "Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors." The reference to treason and bribery, together with the word "other," suggests that the president must have violated the law — and that the violation must be quite egregious ("high Crimes" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opl Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 17 hours ago, Jingthing said: Probably trump's craziest most dangerous Twitter rant to date? Seriously how do rational people see him as a legitimate president?https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/03/06/trumps-twitter-feed-is-a-gateway-to-authoritarianism/?utm_term=.89f4ca45e188&hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumpdebrief-530pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory#comments From your link above, thanks for sharing ... so true - Kasparov : " The tradition of going after one’s predecessor in power is very familiar to anyone from an authoritarian regime. Purges, scapegoating, etc." , Follow Garry Kasparov ✔ @Kasparov63 One of the fixed contradictions of the strongman ethos is that he and his followers must always play the victim, even when holding power. 8:29 PM - 5 Mar 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowpot Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, opalred said: he is running scared as they are slowly finding the truth about the greatest conman he owes more than his assets are will not show any tax returns that would prove that history will show Putin and his mafia mob loaned him billions so to get moneys out of there own country and invest in usa my experience in life and after employing 1000s people in that time anyone that sits up of a night in a room by themselves tweeting are on drugs or mentally unstable i would say both There is no legal requirement of any kind that presidential candidates release tax returns from any year. Indeed, there is a strict, strong constitutional right to privacy for all tax returns. Thus, tax returns can be released by an individual taxpayer, but cannot released by the IRS to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Impeachment isn't the only way for a president to leave office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) Let's get real. If it gets to the point of trump being impeached by his own party, he would probably just RESIGN. Also it's no secret that a large part of the agenda of most people supporting the anti-trump RESISTANCE (from the left, right, and middle) is to push trump out of the office. He is simply unfit for the job. A nutcase like that with the nuclear codes is simply NOT OK. Getting rid of that demagogue clown from the presidency may not be possible, but it's honorable to TRY to make that happen. Yes, for progressives Pence is technically more right wing than trump ... but country over ideology in this case. Edited March 7, 2017 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowpot Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 13 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Let's get real. If it gets to the point of trump being impeached by his own party, he would probably just RESIGN. Also it's no secret that a large part of the agenda of most people supporting the anti-trump RESISTANCE (from the left, right, and middle) is to push trump out of the office. He is simply unfit for the job. A nutcase like that with the nuclear codes is simply NOT OK. Getting rid of that demagogue clown from the presidency may not be possible, but it's honorable to TRY to make that happen. Yes, for progressives Pence is technically more right wing than trump ... but country over ideology in this case. Finally, something we agree on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 38 minutes ago, kowpot said: In fact she is a Constitutional Scholar Really? The only place google shows that is on some bizarre right wing websites. Nancy has a B.A. in political science and that's it. Good to know where you get your information from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 2 hours ago, kowpot said: There is no legal requirement of any kind that presidential candidates release tax returns from any year. Indeed, there is a strict, strong constitutional right to privacy for all tax returns. Thus, tax returns can be released by an individual taxpayer, but cannot released by the IRS to the public. No, there isn't a strict strong constitutional right to privacy for tax returns. There may be statutory reasons for privacy, but not strict, strong constitutional rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rice555 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 3 hours ago, ilostmypassword said: No, there isn't a strict strong constitutional right to privacy for tax returns. There may be statutory reasons for privacy, but not strict, strong constitutional rights. Fourth Amendment The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, ""papers"", and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Are not his papers protected? rice555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Nobody is saying that trump is legally required to show his tax returns. But that's been the custom for presidential candidates and presidents for a very long time, and trump not showing is being seen by many as him having something important to hide specifically about his connections to RUSSIA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Nobody is saying that trump is legally required to show his tax returns. But that's been the custom for presidential candidates and presidents for a very long time, and trump not showing is being seen by many as him having something important to hide specifically about his connections to RUSSIA. I can think of quite a few plausible reasons for Trump not showing his tax returns, but a Russia connection seems far fetched to me.sent using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 1 minute ago, stevenl said: I can think of quite a few plausible reasons for Trump not showing his tax returns, but a Russia connection seems far fetched to me. sent using Tapatalk Not to me. There are likely multiple reasons and most likely we'll never know as it's quite clear now he never intended to ever show them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 1 hour ago, rice555 said: Fourth Amendment The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, ""papers"", and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Are not his papers protected? rice555 Not always. There may be limited review by certain congressional committees. But Republicans currently control all such committees. http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/07/news/economy/trump-tax-returns/ See Rule 19 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/2/11/1632589/-New-Jersey-congressman-invokes-1924-tax-law-giving-Congress-power-to-examine-Trump-s-tax-returns However, if there is reasonable cause to suspect Trump has committed a federal offense that justifies review of his tax returns, the Department of Justice can access his tax returns directly from the IRS (subject of course to any lawsuit brought by Trump to prevent disclosure). But Republicans hold the Secretary of the Justice Department. It would then require Secretary Session to be nonpartisan in finding the truth about Trump's financial complicities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rice555 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 19 minutes ago, Srikcir said: Not always. There may be limited review by certain congressional committees. But Republicans currently control all such committees. http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/07/news/economy/trump-tax-returns/ See Rule 19 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/2/11/1632589/-New-Jersey-congressman-invokes-1924-tax-law-giving-Congress-power-to-examine-Trump-s-tax-returns However, if there is reasonable cause to suspect Trump has committed a federal offense that justifies review of his tax returns, the Department of Justice can access his tax returns directly from the IRS (subject of course to any lawsuit brought by Trump to prevent disclosure). But Republicans hold the Secretary of the Justice Department. It would then require Secretary Session to be nonpartisan in finding the truth about Trump's financial complicities. Yes, thats through the legal system, but thats not why people keep talking about seeing his tax returns! rice555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 The Putin - trump nexus. Just drink it in ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 On 3/6/2017 at 5:47 AM, webfact said: The White House asked the U.S. Congress on Sunday to examine whether the Obama administration abused its investigative authority during the 2016 campaign, as part of an ongoing congressional probe into Russia's influence on the election. That is an unnecessary request! If Trump has evidence that Obama committed a criminal offense, he need only request the US Department of Justice to investigate it. And provide the DOJ with his evidence. Albeit Session might have to recuse himself once again. But on the other hand should Trump's allegations prove to be wrong, he himself may have committed a federal crime by making a seriously false accusation against POTUS Obama! Trump is not protected by freedom of speech given his position as the highest ranking law enforcer in the US and he has been very adamant that he has unequivocal believable evidence to prove his accusation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 ..the members of the C lub will find at wire and leak in 45s Porcelain throne...flush him out, to the sea making the country great again...what did he partake at diner? Falhitas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iReason Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 The Trump White House is totally changing its tune on wiretapping and hoping you don’t notice "On Tuesday afternoon, in his first on-camera briefing in a week, White House press secretary Sean Spicer said this when asked for proof of Trump's wiretapping claims: “It’s not a question of new proof or less proof or whatever.” Instead, he insisted, the goal of Trump's tweets was simply to get congressional investigators to look into the possibility of wiretapping. Congress is now doing this, so, in Spicer's mind, mission accomplished." "Except that what Trump tweeted and what Spicer is now saying aren't the same thing. Not at all. And it is a question of “new proof.” Or, at the very least, some — any? -- proof." "But Trump already stated definitively that it had! Why does Congress need to investigate something the president of the United States already has evidence of?" https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/03/07/the-trump-white-house-is-changing-its-tune-on-wire-tapping-and-hoping-you-dont-notice/?utm_term=.d3ef2e55bfc6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Investigate! trump Quote Trump Knows the Feds Are Closing In on Him The president’s recent tweets aren’t just conspiratorial gibberish – they’re the erratic ravings of a guilty conscience. ... There is a good reason why Trump and his partisans are so apoplectic about the prospect of a special counsel, and it is precisely why it is imperative to appoint one: because otherwise we will never know the full story of the Kremlin’s tampering with our elections and of the Kremlin’s connections with the president of the United States. As evidenced by his desperate attempts to change the subject, Trump appears petrified of what such a probe would reveal. Wonder why? https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/03/06/trump-knows-the-feds-are-closing-in-on-him/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwinecheese Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I think the boss smokes shit man if he thinks so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 On 3/8/2017 at 6:49 AM, Srikcir said: That is an unnecessary request! If Trump has evidence that Obama committed a criminal offense, he need only request the US Department of Justice to investigate it. And provide the DOJ with his evidence. Albeit Session might have to recuse himself once again. But on the other hand should Trump's allegations prove to be wrong, he himself may have committed a federal crime by making a seriously false accusation against POTUS Obama! Trump is not protected by freedom of speech given his position as the highest ranking law enforcer in the US and he has been very adamant that he has unequivocal believable evidence to prove his accusation. Why would he not be protected by freedom of speech? In fact what would be slander or libel if said or written by a private citizen would actually be much harder to prosecute a President for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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