rooster59 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Body Parts in Koh Tao do not belong to missing Russian Woman The five objects believed to have been human body parts, found by search and rescue divers on Koh Tao, do not match the DNA of the missing Russian woman Valentina Novozhyonova who went missing on February 15th. All of the recovered objects as well as a T-shirt thought to belong to the girl were sent for DNA testing at the Institute of Forensic Science of the Royal Thai Police, however tests revealed the flesh was not human and DNA taken from the clothing did not match the missing woman. The revelation that the objects are animal remains is in direct contrast to earlier media reports that said they were part of a human hip and arm. Police are now holding meetings to discuss the next steps in the search. They also wish to question a friend of the missing woman who is due to return to Koh Tao from the Philippines next week. The mother of the missing woman has now arrived on the island. Source: http://www.samuitimes.com/body-parts-koh-tao-not-belong-missing-russian-woman/ -- © Copyright Samui Times 2017-03-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007cableguy Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 The quickest DNA testers in the world!Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, 007cableguy said: The quickest DNA testers in the world! Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect I thought they always need Singapore for dna-tests since Thai can't do it properly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007cableguy Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 I thought they always need Singapore for dna-tests since Thai can't do it properly?I'm still wracking my brains to what part of any policing they do properly!Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Quote All of the recovered objects as well as a T-shirt thought to belong to the girl were sent for DNA testing at the Institute of Forensic Science of the Royal Thai Police Oh gawd, don't send them there! Stevie Wonder would do a better job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z42 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Incompitence and general numbskullery in plentiful supply in regards to the RTP's performance so far on this whole sorry case. A whole heap of investigative red flags, superfast DNA results and poorly thought out press releases. It must be hell for this girl's friends and family. Embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 DNA testing completed overnight and give a negative result for the missing person. Quite impossible for testing to be fractionally completed in this time frame....but for the RTP, they did it and of course, now, there is no body, and probably in their pin brains, no further criminal investigation needed...for now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooster59 Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Remains found in sea at Koh Tao "animal not human" says governor Image: Daily News The bone and flesh parts found in the sea off Koh Tao are not human, initial tests indicate. The parts were taken by helicopter to a police testing facility in Surat Thani where the initial observations showed they were not connected to missing Russian woman Valentina Novozhyonova. As divers continued to search the bay where she is thought to have gone, police are now waiting for the return to Thailand of her "dive buddy". He is a Russian national who is presently in the Philippines, reported Daily News. Testing of an item of clothing for DNA is also currently taking place. Dive teams from Koh Tao Resort were scouring a 400 meter section of the bay yesterday. A blue snorkel was found and some more cloth but these are old and not thought to be connected to the inquiry. Koh Tao police said that all options remain open in the enquiry - they have not ruled out crime, accident or that Valentina has simply gone missing somewhere and might still be alive. Though they said yesterday that with 23 days passed since she was last seen that last possibility is fading. Apichart Bunsrirot, the governor of Surat, confirmed Friday that initial tests showed that bone and flesh found earlier was of animal origin and was not human. DNA testing on a singlet is still ongoing and inconclusive. A mask was also taken for testing to the mainland but has proved to be of little help. Source: Daily News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2017-03-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmj Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 (edited) 51 minutes ago, ChrisY1 said: DNA testing completed overnight and give a negative result for the missing person. Quite impossible for testing to be fractionally completed in this time frame....but for the RTP, they did it and of course, now, there is no body, and probably in their pin brains, no further criminal investigation needed...for now! A preliminary test to indicate if the remains are human can be done easily with 24 hrs, And people like alphabiolabs in the UK can do a criminal service DNA test in under 6 hrs ( while the person is still in custody ). So maybe Thai don't have access to that tech but a 24-36hr test is not impossible. Edited March 11, 2017 by kmj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 17 minutes ago, rooster59 said: Apichart Bunsrirot, the governor of Surat, confirmed Friday that initial tests showed that bone and flesh found earlier was of animal origin and was not human. DNA testing on a singlet is still ongoing and inconclusive. Given the singlet was handled by a number of "police Professionals" there will be so much conflicting DNA the tests will not reveal much relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, kmj said: A preliminary test to indicate if the remains are human can be done easily with 24 hrs actually. Its' likely that the forensic scientists would know decomposed human flesh (and that of other animals) fairly quickly. They would have seen enough of it. Especially if bone tissue was found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 This investigation is brought to you by the same people who dealt with the B2. Hope the family of the girl find out what happened soon. This is hard to follow and I don't even know the girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonjelly Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 (edited) Would using a drone fitted with an infrared cam be useful for detecting shallow graves in the evening when the ground temp has lowered? morbid thought I know, but the whole scenario seems to be turning that way. Edited March 11, 2017 by lemonjelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockingrobin Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 1 hour ago, ChrisY1 said: DNA testing completed overnight and give a negative result for the missing person. Quite impossible for testing to be fractionally completed in this time frame....but for the RTP, they did it and of course, now, there is no body, and probably in their pin brains, no further criminal investigation needed...for now! The dna results reported in the Nation at 18:30 yesterday (10th March) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Hard to believe that her diving "buddy" just upped and left the country. Surely he must have been the first one to notice her disappearance ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumpjack Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 why to hell didnt they check that it was animal parts first before broadcasting to the whole world that it was human parts must be a terrible ordeal for this girls family bloody nitwits..........im screaming inside !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 To many scenarios going on............ Girl goes missing while diving on Koh Tao. Buddy up's and leaves quickly. Flesh found in the water does not match her DNA Singlet found but not identified as yet. This is turning into another Koh Tao mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Problem here is the same as always. You can never trust anything that is said because there are so many lies and cover-ups all the time. There is simply no-one who can be trusted to come out with the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinostar Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Burmese people flee the country quickly!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 45 minutes ago, phantomfiddler said: Hard to believe that her diving "buddy" just upped and left the country. Surely he must have been the first one to notice her disappearance ! yeah ..... somethings not right about him leaving quickly .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockingrobin Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 53 minutes ago, phantomfiddler said: Hard to believe that her diving "buddy" just upped and left the country. Surely he must have been the first one to notice her disappearance ! 6 minutes ago, steven100 said: yeah ..... somethings not right about him leaving quickly .... Or the management of the hostel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaleboneman Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 7 hours ago, lemonjelly said: Would using a drone fitted with an infrared cam be useful for detecting shallow graves in the evening when the ground temp has lowered? morbid thought I know, but the whole scenario seems to be turning that way. How long do you think a body stays warm after death? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeyang wah Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 I wonder about the dive buddy. It's entirely likely the BiB will attempt use him as a convenient scapegoat, especially if he goes back to Thailand to face their wild accusations and questionable police work. The way it's written kind of sounds like he has the choice to go back to Thailand or not. If he's innocent, he'd be crazy to go back and have the cops stitch him up! We all know they are more than capable of framing an innocent man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcanell Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 (edited) Some of us humans are animals! im thinking that anyone holding out hopes that this woman is alive, are living Egypt, the land of de Nile. see... an animal. Edited March 11, 2017 by farcanell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutch68 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 2 hours ago, steven100 said: yeah ..... somethings not right about him leaving quickly .... Maybe he just had his flight already booked along with the rest of his travel plans. If he is coming back to help out then he is clearly innocent, I mean come on as if he killed her then managed to get rid of her body all on his own on that island. Thais have done this same as they have done the rest of the murders and Thais will cover it up like they always do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 3 hours ago, phantomfiddler said: Hard to believe that her diving "buddy" just upped and left the country. Surely he must have been the first one to notice her disappearance ! From information as given it is strange. Especially when the search seems to be in the Bay area she was supposedly diving in around time last sighted. "Due to return" may not mean actually will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish monger Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 I am soooo glad these idiots, announced the fact that bone and body parts were found, as the mother shows up and decide they were NOT human parts they discovered...! I bet the mother is sooooo happy...! How damn sick is this...!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 1 minute ago, fish monger said: I am soooo glad these idiots, announced the fact that bone and body parts were found, as the mother shows up and decide they were NOT human parts they discovered...! I bet the mother is sooooo happy...! How damn sick is this...!!!!! Am I wrong or are there two separate sad events that you are combining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish monger Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 13 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said: Am I wrong or are there two separate sad events that you are combining? No...It's all one event...Have you met the fortune tellers yet...! You know, the ones that were called in by the boneheads to GUESS where the body might be...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Just now, fish monger said: No...It's all one event...Have you met the fortune tellers yet...! You know, the ones that were called in by the boneheads to GUESS where the body might be...? Met them? Not likely! I stay away. I already know my fate. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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