Filipino workers in Thailand take risks to help families back home

[Reigntax]

5 hours ago, steven100 said:

so you say it's ok to let any company in the country you run ( as PM ) to give thousand of jobs to another country when your own backyard has high unemployment.

Well, as a PM I would do everything within my power to block that from happening.

sorry I disagreee with you .... it's not crap . !!   I doubt the US or UK would allow similar.

 

Sorry the PM has no control over the way any company conducts its business nor should he.

 

If you were PM and tried to influence the fudiciary obligations of directors to the shareholders you would be defending many claims for loss and damages initiated by shareholders and by the regulator.

 

I think you may be too used to living under socialist or dictorial governments. Democratic societies operate somewhat different.

[jimster]

On ‎4‎/‎16‎/‎2017 at 5:04 PM, Reigntax said:

 

What a load of crap. Telstra is a company ,owned by shareholders and the obligation of the directors and the CEO is maximise shareholder profits. In fact, if they dont, they are breaching their director obligations and would face proscution under the Corporations Act.

 

The NBN company of which currently the Aus Govt is the owner has an obligation to the Aust people to obtain the best value for money for taxpayers. If an Indian company can supply a product cheaper than a local company and equal in quality, the local product to too expensive. That is how supply and demand works. Labour protection for overpaid and lazy workers is now over.

Actually he is right. What Telstra and every other big Australian company is doing is maximizing their profits. They don't give a rat's ass about Australian workers. Yes the local workers may be overpaid, to some extent. But have you seen the cost of living over there? The government knows very well what it's doing and knows very well that Australians are unhappy about this. I find it insulting of you to label Aussie workers as "lazy". They are simply expensive, but certainly not lazy. As soon as India or the Philippines becomes too expensive (give it at least 10-15 years) they'll simply cull those jobs and move them to Nigeria or somewhere else which is even cheaper. That's how globalization works.

 

The obligation of the Australian government should be to provide jobs for the Australian people, but the future is grim. More and more jobs will be outsourced and what remains will increasingly be automated. This is of course a global trend, but Australia is at the frontline now, followed by other rich western countries, Singapore and Japan. It will probably eventually hit Thailand too, though not for now.

[jimster]

On ‎4‎/‎17‎/‎2017 at 1:08 AM, oldcarguy said:

Asean community, Bangkok welcomes skilled workers, while agreements with immediate neighbours, including Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar and Vietnam, have seen millions of unskilled labourers allowed to work in Thailand.

 

Why is the  Philippines not included  ?

 

Looks like having English speaking skilled workers would take real jobs away , not the slave labor jobs the unskilled workers take ,

 

Thailand does love to have it both ways , 

 

 

Well for starters, the Philippines is not a direct neighboring country. Although neither is Vietnam, the latter only sees a small number of workers legally in Thailand mainly in the north-eastern border provinces next to Laos, the bulk of Thailand's menial work is performed by Burmese nationals (around 70-80% of the total) followed by Cambodia at 15-20% then Laos. The labor agreement between Thailand and Vietnam is a very recent one (I can remember reading about it last year).

 

Filipino workers can, and have always been eligible to apply for a non-B visa and work permit to work in skilled professions such as English teaching. If they choose to work illegally, then they need to accept the risk they're taking. I'm sure a Thai couldn't just work in the Philippines without securing a work permit either.

 

ASEAN is not about complete freedom of movement like in the EU.

 

I think at this time, the ASEAN countries should agree on some common frameworks (such as common customs rules, allowing vehicles registered in one ASEAN country in to another ASEAN country etc.) but aside from this work to keep their sovereignty in tact. An EU-style super state (which ASEAN or the AEC fortunately is not, at least for now) would be an absolute nightmare for the citizen's of each and every ASEAN state.

[Reigntax]

6 hours ago, jimster said:

Actually he is right. What Telstra and every other big Australian company is doing is maximizing their profits. They don't give a rat's ass about Australian workers. Yes the local workers may be overpaid, to some extent. But have you seen the cost of living over there? The government knows very well what it's doing and knows very well that Australians are unhappy about this. I find it insulting of you to label Aussie workers as "lazy". They are simply expensive, but certainly not lazy. As soon as India or the Philippines becomes too expensive (give it at least 10-15 years) they'll simply cull those jobs and move them to Nigeria or somewhere else which is even cheaper. That's how globalization works.

 

The obligation of the Australian government should be to provide jobs for the Australian people, but the future is grim. More and more jobs will be outsourced and what remains will increasingly be automated. This is of course a global trend, but Australia is at the frontline now, followed by other rich western countries, Singapore and Japan. It will probably eventually hit Thailand too, though not for now.

 

What a naive comment.

 

The role of the CEO and Directors of every company is to maximise profits and return on investment to shareholders while ensuring the business complies with its legal requirements. It is a statutory obligation. 

 

The obligation of the Australian government, or any government is to create an environment where companies will invest, employ and make profits for shareholders. The company and shareholders income is then taxable, contributing to government revenue

 

Yes, I  am very familiar with the cost of living in Australia, in fact, every day a witness and it is just proportional to the high cost of wages and middle income government handouts. You would be surprised how few working people make a positive contribution to the tax base, most of whom are supported by the company and resources taxes paid by the large companies you just happen to complain about for seeking maximum profit.

 

Many Australians share your same thoughts, that the government owes them a quality life, its the governments fault when they lose their jobs, the government needs to solve all their issues. Have some bad news for you, its not the government. It the people who are either too lazy, continue to make bad decisions or sit on their backsides thinking they are owed a life.

 

Socialist governments are failures in the end. People get lazy, people expect everything to be given to them and they run out of money and drain a country's wealth. Best still, they complain about business, the same business that are the source of revenue that at supports their life style.

 

 

Edited April 24, 2017 by Reigntax

[balo]

On 4/17/2017 at 3:59 AM, gomangosteen said:

They taught English and Japanese, believe they fitted in well with the staff and pupils.

 

Filipinos fit in well all over the world. Big communities and they are well liked. Yes they need the jobs and if they do not steal jobs from educated Thais I see no reason why they can't continue to work here.  They are better educated than the average Thai , that's for sure.