freedomnow Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Are these tip-up helmets really a bad idea offering no real chin protection ? Wouldn't the joint they are attached to just fail in a direct chin impact when locked down the way....? Such as...Real Cosmos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 https://www.google.co.th/search?q=modular+helmet+chin+bar+failure&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gws_rd=cr&ei=miz3WJbFIMjT8QWK3r3YDQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 They will be much better than an open face helmet...I tested mine (real orbit predecessor to cosmos) at 55 kph with impact into soi dog and concrete road/kerb and it saved my head from serious damage for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I would say OK for urban riding. Going to work, shopping that sort of stuff. If going for a spirited weekend ride or touring ? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILLIGAD Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Many of the top makers are producing them so I guess they have been fully tested.At the end of the day, spend whatever your head is worth. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 That being said - if there were catastrophic failures of any one brand it would be all over the Net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, canthai55 said: That being said - if there were catastrophic failures of any one brand it would be all over the Net. Yeah your right like in MotoGP Simoncelli's helmet coming off, manufacturers salesmen are full off deleted many on ear should get with it. Ride to live. Edited April 19, 2017 by Kwasaki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Looking at one myself. Want a helmet with more ventilation. But lack of 2XL size here for my fat head means back to the world for work time to shop for one. Schuberth looks good. $$$ tho' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard-BKK Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Most flip-front helmets are only certified as open-face-helmet, only a few brand names have both certification for open-face-helmet and full-face-helmet for the flip-front helmet. As example the Shark Evo3 is certified for both open-face and full-face... Of course the brand names that are both open-face and full-face certified are not at the budget level... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILLIGAD Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Looking at one myself. Want a helmet with more ventilation. But lack of 2XL size here for my fat head means back to the world for work time to shop for one. Schuberth looks good. $$$ tho'Agree, that will be my next brand (C3pro)Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedomnow Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 Generally are Shark and LS2 helmets the safer/decent entry-level vs the local shoddy brands ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 5 hours ago, DILLIGAD said: At the end of the day, spend whatever your head is worth. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk How much your head worth? How much your helmet cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMKiwi Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I've had several LS2 helmets during my 5 years in Chiang Mai. I like them because they seem to fit my head better than all others I've tried. Now are they the real McCoy or fake copies? Who knows? But they seem to have a lot more padding/polystyrene than some of these construction site helmets I've seen on the market. As for the composite type helmets (flip face), yes I had one and it was great. Cost a bit more than a full face but so much easier to put on. The LS2 version was very well constructed and I liked the internal sunglasses (similar design to an astronauts helmet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 In my experience - regarding safety - the lower priced helmets protect just as well as the premium brands. Tesco/Big C brands not included. The premium brands give you a nicer finish, and often better materials. So long as it passes DOT/Snell/ECE good to go. Used HJC for years, no regrets. But noisy and no where near as nice as a premium helmet - at 3 or 4 times the price mind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdaz Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) I always remember being told years ago when I first passed my test. 10 quid helmets are for a 10 quid heads. I'd never sacrifice quality for price when it comes to safety gear. Shoei, Arai and the other top name brands are worth the cash. If your budget is limited buy a plain coloured helmet rather than one with fancy graphics. You only have one head. Police and other professional riders wear flip front helmets in the UK. Top brand versions are as good as a full face lid for normal riding and commuting. Edited April 20, 2017 by Pdaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taichiplanet Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 11 hours ago, freedomnow said: Generally are Shark and LS2 helmets the safer/decent entry-level vs the local shoddy brands ? depends what you mean by shoddy; i wouldn't call REAL Helmets shoddy but i also haven't seen any test to confirm the ECE rating. The Australian NSW Transport Dept has a website showing tests they have done including some flip-up helmets like LS2 and Shark http://crash.org.au/ratings.php Out of interest the laws recently changed in Australia so now European UNECE 22.05 helmets are allowed to be worn in Australia. There seems to be a bit of confusion about labelling (insisting on showing UNECE instead of just ECE) but In theory it means a REAL helmet could be worn in some parts of Australia. Some info here on the break down of the ECE compliance markings label on the chin strap http://www.mccofnsw.org.au/a/372.html A bit of info on the helmet label confusion in Australia https://motorbikewriter.com/helmet-compliance-confusion/ http://roadsafety.transport.nsw.gov.au/stayingsafe/motorcyclists/motorcyclehelmets.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 These are the helmets at Tesco Lotus right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILLIGAD Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 These are the helmets at Tesco Lotus right? Your thinking of Index, I think.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namplik Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 22 minutes ago, Rhys said: These are the helmets at Tesco Lotus right? Nope! Real is a ok brand, have one of their models myself. http://www.real-helmets.com/2014/index.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 These are the helmets at Tesco Lotus right? Recently the Real helmets are indeed being sold at Tesco ( at South Pattaya branch) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Thus based on your experience would the Real Brand worth the 2K? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 My REAL helmet smell real bad even tho remove the velcro/snap attached liner for laundry really often. Really should buy another B2000 REAL helmet real soon because been really happy with the first two. Did clonk the noggin on the road once after drunk rammed papa from behind. REAL really saved the day! ..or night, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdaz Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 48 minutes ago, Rhys said: Thus based on your experience would the Real Brand worth the 2K? You need to ask yourself is your head worth 2k ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 My friend has $550 helmet. papa ask him: ? that all your brain worth? [peeples say dum stuff] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macknife Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) On 19/04/2017 at 9:09 PM, freedomnow said: Generally are Shark and LS2 helmets the safer/decent entry-level vs the local shoddy brands ? I'd say considering the fact that former world superbike champion Tom Sykes and former motogp champion Lorenzo wear a Shark helmet, that they go way beyond entry level. I have one of those 'cheaper' flip front "full face" helmets and its fine, still way safer than an open face helmet. I wear it for riding around town where I'll generally be doing slower speeds. Would I wear it racing around the mountains? no way. It might be fine in an off but I wouldn't take that chance. Edited June 5, 2017 by macknife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 My friend bought one of those crappy 2000b Reall helmets. He accidentally dropped it on the floor and it broke. Huge crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 51 minutes ago, Nickymaster said: My friend bought one of those crappy 2000b Reall helmets I dropped mine at about 55KPH ( with my head in it) onto the concrete road and kerb it didn't crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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