Outrage after Facebook Live murder of baby

[uchibenkei]

4 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

You said ''male bashing''.

 

That is different from the post you refer to.

 

Also 1 is hardly representative of the thread.

No.  It isn't different. One is enough for me to make a comment.  I don't need your permission or approval to respond to whatever I want.

[AussieRules]

mad mad world we live in these days

[Bluespunk]

21 minutes ago, uchibenkei said:

No.  It isn't different. One is enough for me to make a comment.  I don't need your permission or approval to respond to whatever I want.

Never said you did, and neither do I need yours to point out inaccuracies.

 

Oh and on that point, yes, it is different.

[DrTuner]

8 hours ago, Khon Kaen Dave said:

I could live very easy without Facebook

It's like a rotten fruit, it starts off as some thing good and ends up, after it's been through a few hands, as something that is decaying rapidly and spreads disease everywhere.

That happens to all media eventually. The deep end of the gene pool is always late to the party. Including internet forums. 

[Jonmarleesco]

13 hours ago, webfact said:

Facebook has previously admitted that broadcasts of murders and suicides have been an issue that it has taken steps to prevent.

Nothing like sufficient, evidently.

[wakeupplease]

After reading this one my feeling for the place which where at a all time low ebb have now disappeared totally, maybe its time for me to move on and forget I have connections with this lawless country that is sliding even lower than criminals who run it

 

There are no words to describe people who sink this low.

 

Totally and utterly disgusted it the acts of animals of the stone age

[DrTuner]

47 minutes ago, Jonmarleesco said:

Nothing like sufficient, evidently.

Not an easy task: https://www.wired.com/2014/10/content-moderation/

[Thongkorn]

This was not Mental illness, This is a typical Imature Thai man. And if you want to say I am Thai bashing up to you. Having lived in the real Thailand and not in one of the sewers on the coast. Most Thai male children never get an chastisation or disapline. Go look in most Big C on a weekend . You will see male children doing what they want. Because in Thai Society it's normal for males to act this way. Females are treat just like soy dogs. How many times have you seen or heard of a Thai man beating his female partner while people just walk by, The police don't want to intervien. They just say it's a domestic thing. When the pepertrator gets some real punishment that may make them think twice before lifting their feet or fists to females.Its about time Thailand got in the real world. Rant over. As I have said before.Hope the child finds peace, May her Buddha go with her. And as for the thing that did this terrible  act. Suffer for Eternity. 

[hobobo]

Little Beta, you are with angels now. RIP

[Grumpy Duck]

12 hours ago, Khon Kaen Dave said:

I could live very easy without Facebook

It's like a rotten fruit, it starts off as some thing good and ends up, after it's been through a few hands, as something that is decaying rapidly and spreads disease everywhere.

Perhaps it is like stumbling across a porn site, "I cannot believe this is true" but keep watching perhaps to get a glimpse of some evidence to prove it not real. Eventually becoming addicted. Not trying to make excuses for the 400,000 sick persons watching this. But perhaps it is an explanation of a disease advancing. 

Children become addicted to video games where blowing up people is common, human beings have been de-sensitized to violence since watching humans being  blown up. first was on the 6:00 pm news during the Vietnam conflict. Who can forget the image of a Vietnamese policeman shooting a handcuffed man in the head or a monk setting himself on fire in protest all on live TV.  What is the answer?

[UniqueWord]

9 hours ago, owl sees all said:

What!!!! Are we showering rose petals over the world here? FB is a modern technology. Bombs have been about for centuries. Chemical weapons decades. They bring precious little to the 'human table'. Nor do guns etc.

 

There seems to be more outrage with FB than the actual murder and suicide. It was a family dispute turned terribly bad. From our perspective (farang's) he was mentally deranged too.

 

All these religions that promise a good life after death have their dark moments. If people, Thais included, realised that this life is the one and only one then it would be treasured far more.

Grey Owl, with respect

Objection,  FB is a concept, not modern technology.  Modern technology enables some concepts to surface and gain acceptance.  FB is one on steroids, and Zuckerberg won the lottery.  If you wish to quote me, please include that I also said FB could be used otherwise.

If the British had the technology to make a hydrogen (fission/fusion) bomb in 1700, I'm very sure the world would be different.

But this thread is not about technology, or religion.  It's about an horrific act committed by a father and shown to the world by FB Live.

Authorities world-wide have standards with which broadcasters need to be compliant when airing live content.  Why then is it that FB escapes this?

Could it possibly be the billions of moulah in ad revenue?

There is a sickness here, and it's not just in the mind of the man who perpetrated this act on FB Live.

Cheers, UW.

[Stargeezr]

I refuse to use facebook, as I have never agreed with its lack of security, and I did  have an account once,

and my pictures that I had sent to one friend, ended up in public as my friend accidently put

them into his general album that is exposed to all of his friends, an someone spread my

pictures from there. I closed the account and it took a year to see most of my pictures get

taken off of even my friends account.

Geezer

[lvr181]

17 hours ago, smileydude said:

Social media has its pro's but this is definitely one of its con's.  People deal with problems differently and mental health issues are often difficult to detect but it would benefit us and society as a whole if we educated ourselves on the signs of common problems such as depression, anxiety etc and to be aware of it in case we can help those around us instead of just focusing on ourselves.  Society has become too narcissistic as it is.

 

So sadddened to hear what has happened.  RIP little one.

I totally agree and education could be the answer (among other badly needed changes)  BUT after spending billions(?) of baht on a submarine there is little chance of improving educational standards in Thailand that may lead to a future improvement in the cultural values of so many Thai peoples, particularly the values of human life and the responsibilities of parenthood.

Does a major mainstream belief system (Buddhism) not teach morality (I am not deeply versed in the teachings of Buddha)? Or, same as Roman Catholicism and maybe other religions, is it perfectly acceptable to commit an atrocity and then ask for and expect a "pardon" for your crime from your religious or belief system?

Change starts from the top but when self-aggrandisement, lack of accountability and responsibility is seemingly paramount in much of Thai (but not limited to Thailand) society can there be real change?

To a casual observer, life is cheap in Thailand, sadly. 

[Khon Kaen Dave]

12 hours ago, Grumpy Duck said:

Perhaps it is like stumbling across a porn site, "I cannot believe this is true" but keep watching perhaps to get a glimpse of some evidence to prove it not real. Eventually becoming addicted. Not trying to make excuses for the 400,000 sick persons watching this. But perhaps it is an explanation of a disease advancing. 

Children become addicted to video games where blowing up people is common, human beings have been de-sensitized to violence since watching humans being  blown up. first was on the 6:00 pm news during the Vietnam conflict. Who can forget the image of a Vietnamese policeman shooting a handcuffed man in the head or a monk setting himself on fire in protest all on live TV.  What is the answer?

Hi Your post is an intelligent and a well thought out presentation. And you are correct in what you say. I am afraid that morbid curiosity is a strong lure for most of us

 Sadly most people will, indeed, watch something,  until the mind has decided whether the contents are real or not. I am typical of the species. I watched the destruction of the two towers in 9/11 on a TV in a pub, in the UK believing it was a movie. When i was told it was real, i had to keep on watching because i couldn't believe it. My morbid curiosity had locked in

As with FB, it's a human trait. But it has to be controlled. Censorship is an archaic rule

People should be allowed to watch what they want, without fear of authoritarian reprisals. However, there must be ways that examples of this last situation cannot be available to Young or easily damaged minds

The passing of terrorist messages across FB, has to be stopped also

 Technology is a great and most needed science

 Without it we would sink back into ignorance

 But this kind of media has to be controlled

 I expect the 'freedom of 'speech brigade will be hot on my heels now

But the thing is, that i am also a member of that brigade. 

You just can't win.