1 hour ago, Ahab said:

I was going to reply to you troll post, but decided it would be a waste of time because like your other posts on this topic you are clueless.

55555...but you replied anyway.  You need to go to the corner store and buy some IQ. 

6 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

55555...but you replied anyway.  You need to go to the corner store and buy some IQ. 

Sorry Ahab. I mostly agree with you but that was below the belt as was the Berks reply to you. 

If you don't keep it civil, Scott will bounce you both

5 hours ago, Ahab said:

So enforce the rules, cut out the fraud and you could also cut the money required to fund the people that actually need the help. 

Or better yet, build in a deterrence to fraud. Make the recipients work for the food stamps and welfare ala FDR's New Deal. As long as the govt is handing out free money, there will people telling lies to get it. 

1 hour ago, Rob13 said:

Or better yet, build in a deterrence to fraud. Make the recipients work for the food stamps and welfare ala FDR's New Deal. As long as the govt is handing out free money, there will people telling lies to get it. 

People didn't work for food stamps or, for that matter, food, or welfare in the new deal. They were given all kinds of jobs and paid for their labor. For able bodied workers that would be a great idea.

Here is a pretty thorough discussion of the welfare situation in the usa.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/09/08/ben-carsons-claim-that-we-have-10-times-people-more-people-on-welfare/?utm_term=.d7a3403aea59

10 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

People didn't work for food stamps or, for that matter, food, or welfare in the new deal. They were given all kinds of jobs and paid for their labor. For able bodied workers that would be a great idea.

Here is a pretty thorough discussion of the welfare situation in the usa.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/09/08/ben-carsons-claim-that-we-have-10-times-people-more-people-on-welfare/?utm_term=.d7a3403aea59

Same as the New Deal programs or something different, doesn't much matter. The idea being if you require the recipients to work, it would reduce the numbers of people trying to defraud the program.  It could work well with trump's infra-structure plan, and the wall to for that matter. 

Edited May 26, 20179 yr by Rob13

6 minutes ago, Rob13 said:

Same as the New Deal programs or something different, doesn't much matter. The idea being if you require the recipients to work, it would reduce the numbers of people trying to defraud the program.  It could work well with trump's infra-structure plan, and the wall to for that matter. 

And what percentage of people on various government programs are engaged in fraud?

Here's something from politifact on the subject:

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2014/jan/20/ron-johnson/fraud-claims-20-25-cents-every-1-spent-four-govern/

Some background on Republican Gianforte. The guy who assaulted a reporter:

And why you shouldn't have Social Security.

 

Noah From The Bible Didn’t Retire, So This Likely GOP Gubernatorial Candidate Doesn’t See Why You Should

 

“There’s nothing in the Bible that talks about retirement. And yet it’s been an accepted concept in our culture today,” he said.

 

“Nowhere does it say, ‘Well, he was a good and faithful servant, so he went to the beach.’ It doesn’t say that anywhere.”

 

“The example I think of is Noah,” he continued. “How old was Noah when he built the ark? 600."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/09/greg-gianforte-montana_n_7536568.html

 

Noah? 

 

 

Full text in the link.

15 hours ago, Rob13 said:

Or better yet, build in a deterrence to fraud. Make the recipients work for the food stamps and welfare ala FDR's New Deal. As long as the govt is handing out free money, there will people telling lies to get it. 

Yea they're usually called politicians.

19 hours ago, spiderorchid said:

Sorry Ahab. I mostly agree with you but that was below the belt as was the Berks reply to you. 

If you don't keep it civil, Scott will bounce you both

I will try harder.