10 impounded super cars were stolen cars from abroad

[elgordo38]

18 hours ago, wakeupplease said:

Now I wonder who pointed that out. was Mr Kwanburi involved I wonder as I hear he did a runner

I am sure he had enough time to assemble runner capital before leaving. 

[elgordo38]

4 minutes ago, Rgreen88 said:

I've never heard of another country with public showrooms of stolen and smuggled cars.

How many countries have you heard of in this day and age that have had a military coup and been controlled by a military government for 3 years who dangle an election in front of their populous. 

[Rgreen88]

5 minutes ago, elgordo38 said:

How many countries have you heard of in this day and age that have had a military coup and been controlled by a military government for 3 years who dangle an election in front of their populous. 

A few in Africa, but you're right- not many.

[elgordo38]

14 minutes ago, Rgreen88 said:

A few in Africa, but you're right- not many.

Yes Africa I can understand by the way they are being financially pillaged especially by Western Corporations mainly oil companies and then throw in the ruling despots what a recipe for a coup. Some of the richest resource countries in the world with its citizens living in such a substandard way.  

[scorecard]

1 hour ago, elgordo38 said:

How many countries have you heard of in this day and age that have had a military coup and been controlled by a military government for 3 years who dangle an election in front of their populous. 

 

What rubbish.

 

How does this connect? Falsifying documents to avoid tax on cars / luxury cars has been happening here for 20 years that I know of, under many different governments some of which were supposedly democratic, example:  'I come from election' etc. 

 

These past governments knew well about the massive tax revenues that were being lost. Did they do anything substantial or anything at all to fix the problem and punish the culprits? No.

 

Perhaps you could call this crony democracy. 

 

Edited May 26, 2017 by scorecard

[Moti24]

10 hours ago, gk10002000 said:

Wish there was more information.  Where did the cars come from?  Asia? USA?  Many transfers along the way?  Shipped from where and when?  How long does it take for a stolen car to get on the boat, or boats, etc.

If they're for sale in Thailand, they'd most likely be RHD.  So, that would narrow the source down a bit.

[harleyclarkey]

The corruption in Thailand is sickening and truly out of control. The very first thing the customs should have checked were the VIN/chassis numbers.

 

There is clearly a database, as the DSI "foreign counterparts" could state they were stolen. for these high-end vehicles and being (as pointed out ) RHD then that leaves a handful of countries with such cars.

They tell the whole life of the vehicle. But why bother when you have been paid not to and look the other way?

Edited May 26, 2017 by harleyclarkey

[grollies]

8 hours ago, janclaes47 said:

In the original story of the impounding of the cars, Bangkok post reported that this originated from the investigation that started a few years ago when the truck with super cars burned down.

 

At that time sevral super car dealers, including the one on Sukhumvit Pattaya, were inspected.

 

It was at that time already a public secret for years that the cars in that showroom were mostly stolen in other countries.

 

Remember also that the dealer didn't have the documents of any of the cars in his showroom, because they were all with the bank .

 

Shortly afterwards the showroom was closed down, and several of the super cars that I know were sold to foreign business people in Pattaya, have not been seen on the road since.

I was in the Landmark Hotel carpark last year. Near the top floor are 4 cars, a Maclaren F1, Masarati, Ferrari and I can't remember the last.

 

All covered in dust, looked like they'd been there a while. Wonder if they're still there?

[Jeremy50]

4 hours ago, Sydebolle said:

Did anyone ever hear of car smuggling in Europe, the US or Australia? 

I - for one - did not. Maybe it has to do with the ridiculous high duties and excise fees here in the Land which makes such trade attractive? But your customs tariff into the 21st century = the country's coffers are filled and importers don't find smuggling attractive anymore.

Another good example was me at the "duty free shop" in Thanaleng/Friendship Bridge crossing into Thailand's Nong Khai. A couple with a pick-up walked in, got 25 cases of Black Label loaded onto their car, pulled a tarpaulin over the back and drove in front of me to Thailand. Did the paperwork on the car and nobody cared about his cargo. 

Well, the "duty free" in Laos actually is (Lao) duty paid and the booze is sold for less than half the Thai price.

 

There is a message and maybe the clowns at Klang Toey's castle of rip offs start to wonder, why nobody ever smuggled any alcohol into Laos. 

Quite right, the Thais don't seem to understand the meaning of duty free, all that tat for sale in Suvanaphumi, can be bought much cheaper in town. All those thieves should be kicked out starting with K+++ Power.

[ChiangMaiLightning2143]

It all starts from the dumb idea of "soak the rich" with luxury taxes. Thailand does not have a supercar production industry to protect.

If there would be no steep taxes the rich would buy more, there would be more jobs selling and maintaning them here, fixing them parts, and on and on. Of course more jobs and profit in Italy/Germany as well .

Socialism. A failure wherever it is tried.


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[just.a.thought]

Wonder when they begin to look into who put the rubber stamp on the clearance at the port?

[digger70]

20 hours ago, wow64 said:

Well done. I gather these cars will soon be returned to their owners.

That will never happen,What happens in Thailand Stays in Thailand 5555

[elgordo38]

6 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

What rubbish.

 

How does this connect? Falsifying documents to avoid tax on cars / luxury cars has been happening here for 20 years that I know of, under many different governments some of which were supposedly democratic, example:  'I come from election' etc. 

 

These past governments knew well about the massive tax revenues that were being lost. Did they do anything substantial or anything at all to fix the problem and punish the culprits? No.

 

Perhaps you could call this crony democracy. 

 

You have the soap box call it what you wish. A lot of suppositions here re past governments but crony democracy hmm now you have my attention. 

[scorecard]

2 hours ago, elgordo38 said:

A lot of suppositions

 

No not supposition.

 

I've lived / worked in Thailand well over three decades, I have noted numerous news items over that time about this subject.

 

Did any past government take any substantial action in regard to the criminality involved? Basically NO.

 

Did any past government take any substantial action in regard to the massive lost tax revenue? Very little.

 

No supposition involved at all. 

[Fulwell53]

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 8:15 PM, impulse said:

Oooh.

 

The plot thickens...

 

Next, we're going to hear how many were stolen from their Thai owners living abroad (members of families that own super car dealerships?), who were fully compensated by their insurance companies.  (Or maybe not...)  This could get good.

 

Britain is one of the world hubs for stealing and exporting high end motor vehicles.

In 1999 it was worth 2bn a year.

Despite interpol, europol and scotland yard et al the trade still flourishes.

But hey lets blame thailand for this whole sorry state of affairs.

Thailand crims and corrupt officials are little league compared to whaat goes on in the uk.

 

[impulse]

On 6/1/2017 at 5:38 PM, Fulwell53 said:

Britain is one of the world hubs for stealing and exporting high end motor vehicles.

In 1999 it was worth 2bn a year.

Despite interpol, europol and scotland yard et al the trade still flourishes.

But hey lets blame thailand for this whole sorry state of affairs.

Thailand crims and corrupt officials are little league compared to whaat goes on in the uk.

 

 

The difference being, of course, that stealing a car and sticking it into an export container in a relatively free country (with no export tariffs AFAIK) like the UK takes a few moments of thievery and no deliberate participation from the authorities.

 

There's a reason the movie was called "Gone in 60 Seconds"

 

Importing, displaying, registering and driving around in a stolen car takes years of arrogance, and cannot possibly be accomplished without the participation of the authorities.

Edited June 2, 2017 by impulse