rooster59 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Thai man arrested with 98kg of krathom leaves from Malaysian border By The Nation Border patrol police Saturday arrested a Thai man on Saturday when he tried to pass a road checkpoint in Satun with 98 kilograms of krathom leaves. Kosem Tohjeh, 23, a resident in Satun town, was arrested when the pickup he drove was stopped at a checkpoint in Ban Thung Pattana village in Tambon Khun Sator in Khun Doan district. He was arrested after border patrol police at the checkpoint found the krathom leaves. Kosem said he was paid Bt500 to drive the pickup from the Thai-Malaysian border – Ban Wang Prachan village in Tambon Wang Prachan in Khun Doan – to a recipient in Mueang district. He said he had done it three times without getting caught. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/breakingnews/30318358 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-06-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 500 Bath!! Well paid for the risk taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirasan Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Thank god the border police is saving people from plants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 1 hour ago, akirasan said: Thank god the border police is saving people from plants. Especially from this, and there is more if you want to read up on it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitragyna_speciosa As of 2013, no clinical trials had been done to understand kratom's health effects and it had no approved medical uses.[3][4][7] Some people take it for managing chronic pain, for treating opioid withdrawal symptoms, or – more recently – for recreational purposes.[3][7] Onset of effects typically begins within 5 to 10 minutes and lasts 2 to 5 hours.[3] Common minor side effects may include nausea, vomiting, and constipation.[3] More severe side effects may include seizure, addiction, and psychosis.[3][8][9] Other side effects may include high heart rate and blood pressure, trouble sleeping, and, rarely, liver toxicity.[3][10][11] When use is stopped, withdrawal may occur.[6][7] Respiratory depression (decreased breathing) is a major risk with all opioids;[12]:196 the medical literature is divided on whether it is a significant side effect of kratom, with some authorities not mentioning it[10][8] and others emphasizing it.[9][13] Deaths have occurred when kratom was present, mixed with other substances.[6][7] In the United States, there were fifteen kratom-related deaths between 2014 and 2016,[14] although in none was kratom the sole factor. http://www.narconon.org/drug-abuse/kratom-effects.html A person using this drug may not expect or want the following undesirable effects of kratom: Edginess, nervousness Vomiting (can be severe and prolonged) Nausea (can be severe and prolonged) Sweating Itching Constipation Delusions Lethargy Respiratory depression Tremors Aggressive or combative behavior Psychotic episodes Hallucinations Paranoia Since the drug is also addictive, one of the effects can include compulsive use of the drug despite the harm that is being done to one’s mental state or life. Addiction effects may include: Loss of sexual desire Loss of weight Darkening of skin on face Constant cravings that drive one to use more of the drug Withdrawal effects of kratom are very similar to those of opiates like heroin or prescription painkillers. They include: Diarrhea Muscle pain Muscle tremors and jerking Restlessness and sleeplessness Severe depression Crying Episodes of panic Sudden swings of mood Irritability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasanews Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 What are they used for, Drugs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirasan Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, nasanews said: What are they used for, Drugs? Most commonly, opiate addicts and people on hardcore pain meds use it to prevent withdrawals when getting clean. Has some medicinal properties, helps with chronic pain etc. Some user reviews here:http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientreview-1513-KRATOM.aspx?drugid=1513&drugname=KRATOM Edited June 18, 2017 by akirasan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKr Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 (edited) WebMD info seems quite objective. Thanks Edited June 18, 2017 by KKr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 4 hours ago, akirasan said: Most commonly, opiate addicts and people on hardcore pain meds use it to prevent withdrawals when getting clean. Has some medicinal properties, helps with chronic pain etc. Some user reviews here:http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientreview-1513-KRATOM.aspx?drugid=1513&drugname=KRATOM But still illegal in Thailand. From what I have read the upsides are definitely out weighed by the downsides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saminoz Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 "Edginess, nervousness Constipation Delusions Lethargy Aggressive or combative behavior Psychotic episodes Hallucinations Paranoia Sudden swings of mood Irritability" Hmmmm, I wonder if the silly little General is using Kratom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howard ashoul Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 8 hours ago, saminoz said: "Edginess, nervousness Constipation Delusions Lethargy Aggressive or combative behavior Psychotic episodes Hallucinations Paranoia Sudden swings of mood Irritability" Hmmmm, I wonder if the silly little General is using Kratom? You can make list of bad side effects of anything. Lets try regular every day coffee. More than 4 cups of coffee linked to early death Caffeine consumption may raise blood pressure Increased risk of heart attacks among young adult Caffeine linked to gout attack Breast Tissue Cysts In Wome Caffeine could cause incontinence Caffeine may cause insomnia Caffeine can cause indigestion Caffeine can cause headaches Caffeine could reduce fertility in women Caffeine and Miscarriage Risk Caffeine may not be healthy for type 2 diabetics Caffeine causes more forceful heart contractions Worse Menopause Symptoms Caffeine consumption can lead to increased anxiety Caffeine inhibits collagen production in the skin Caffeine interferes with ossification and could also lead to greater risk of bone fractures Caffeine May Impair Hearing Loss Recovery Well, coffe was easy. What about regular water? 1. Causes Hyponatremia: 2. Overburdens The Heart: 3. Causes Damage To Glomeruli: 4. Causes Swelling Of Cells: 5. Causes Brain Edema: 6. Depletes Potassium: 7. Causes Stomach Irritation: 8. Liver Problems: 9. Passes On Risks Of Chlorine Intake: 10. Too Much Urination: I can make list of bad side effect of anything... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 1 hour ago, howard ashoul said: You can make list of bad side effects of anything. Lets try regular every day coffee. More than 4 cups of coffee linked to early death Caffeine consumption may raise blood pressure Increased risk of heart attacks among young adult Caffeine linked to gout attack Breast Tissue Cysts In Wome Caffeine could cause incontinence Caffeine may cause insomnia Caffeine can cause indigestion Caffeine can cause headaches Caffeine could reduce fertility in women Caffeine and Miscarriage Risk Caffeine may not be healthy for type 2 diabetics Caffeine causes more forceful heart contractions Worse Menopause Symptoms Caffeine consumption can lead to increased anxiety Caffeine inhibits collagen production in the skin Caffeine interferes with ossification and could also lead to greater risk of bone fractures Caffeine May Impair Hearing Loss Recovery Well, coffe was easy. What about regular water? 1. Causes Hyponatremia: 2. Overburdens The Heart: 3. Causes Damage To Glomeruli: 4. Causes Swelling Of Cells: 5. Causes Brain Edema: 6. Depletes Potassium: 7. Causes Stomach Irritation: 8. Liver Problems: 9. Passes On Risks Of Chlorine Intake: 10. Too Much Urination: I can make list of bad side effect of anything... . Actually saminoz didn't make a list of anything, but merely did a snip and paste on the post I made at #4. I got that from the internet and I did not make a list but merely copied the links. Do you have any online references for your made up list or is it just made up? Of course YOU can make a list of bad side effects, but it doesn't mean much unless you can back it up with references as I and many other posters do. For example how many people did you survey for your list, what were the questions, what class of people did you ask the questions from, were they just from one country or many countries, was it done by email, phone calls or personal visits and for how long a period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 got quite a bit of certain cited side effects with cigarettes... and got even more of the cited side effect when I quit... what to say???... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howard ashoul Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 1 hour ago, billd766 said: Actually saminoz didn't make a list of anything, but merely did a snip and paste on the post I made at #4. I got that from the internet and I did not make a list but merely copied the links. Do you have any online references for your made up list or is it just made up? Of course YOU can make a list of bad side effects, but it doesn't mean much unless you can back it up with references as I and many other posters do. For example how many people did you survey for your list, what were the questions, what class of people did you ask the questions from, were they just from one country or many countries, was it done by email, phone calls or personal visits and for how long a period? I didn't make it up. I didn't even bother to write it. Just a first result on Google about side effects of drinking coffee or water... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 13 hours ago, howard ashoul said: I didn't make it up. I didn't even bother to write it. Just a first result on Google about side effects of drinking coffee or water... . Then give it a reference and then people can look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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