webfact Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Thai junta seeks to force temples to open their finances By Panarat Thepgumpanat and Patpicha Tanakasempipat FILE PHOTO: Buddhist monks receive food from people while soldiers watch on outside Dhammakaya temple in Pathum Thani province, Thailand February 23, 2017. REUTERS/Jorge Silva/File Photo BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thailand's military government will propose a law to force its tens of thousands of Buddhist temples to declare their finances, the head of the National Office of Buddhism told Reuters. Temples get billions of dollars in annual donations and have been hit by scandals ranging from murder to sex to drugs to improper financial dealings. They have also largely eluded the junta's control as it has stamped its authority on other aspects of Thai life since a 2014 coup. Pongporn Pramsaneh, a former policeman appointed to head the government's National Office of Buddhism this year, said reform was essential to stamp out corruption. "It's a crisis of faith," Pongporn told Reuters in an interview on Thursday. "If we don't do it today, more damage will be done in future." Efforts to bring greater control over Buddhism have intensified since March, when the influential Dhammakaya Temple defied a three-week siege by police searching for its former abbot on money-laundering charges. He is still on the run. The temples get an estimated $3.5 billion a year in donations, according to a 2014 study. The government provides a further 4.67 billion baht ($137 million) to support temples and more than 300,000 monks. Pongporn said he would propose measures to the military-appointed parliament next week to make it a law for temples to report their assets and financial records, as well as make them publicly available for scrutiny. "It will be greatly beneficial in preventing corruption," said Pongporn, whose agency liaises with the Sangha Supreme Council, Buddhism's governing body in Thailand. But one of the senior monks on the council, Phra Phrom Moli, said corruption should be addressed case by case and temple finances kept private. "If someone asks to know your salary, will you tell them?" he asked. MURDER AND CORRUPTION The need for action had been highlighted by the recent exhumation of a 17-year-old novice murdered in a quarrel over money as well as the discovery of past corruption involving the Buddhist office itself, Pongporn said. Buddhism is one of the three traditional pillars of Thai society alongside the nation and monarchy. Theravada Buddhism is followed - to varying degrees - by more than 90 percent of people in the country of more than 67 million. Pongporn said about 80 percent of the 40,758 temples in Thailand submit their annual financial reports for archive purposes, but authorities are not allowed to scrutinize them. The Dhammakaya Temple, which is Thailand's biggest, is among those that do not, he said. Another junta-appointed body, the National Reform Steering Assembly, is also pushing for financial reform of temples. "It's not enough for temples to submit their accounts, but they must be scrutinized and audited," Borvornvate Rungrujee, one of the assembly members, told Reuters. A separate bill that appears to significantly reduce the say of the Sangha Supreme Council is also making its way through government. It would give monks chosen by the Sangha Council only three of 29 seats on the committee. Among the committee's duties would be to appoint "monk police" with legal authority to report misbehaving monks. The bill has been approved by the council of monks and is being considered by the cabinet, Pongporn said. After that, it would need to go to parliament. "If Buddhism becomes too decadent, it will affect national security," Pongporn said. ($1 = 34.00 baht) (Writing by Patpicha Tanakasempipat; Editing by Matthew Tostevin) -- © Copyright Reuters 2017-06-19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 You wish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Centre for money laundering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 i knew they could fly; lousy formation tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Somtamnication said: You wish! Government seek to force temples to open their finances. As above pigs might fly, no way will any temple open up their finances/ill gotten gains to scrutiny. Most temple funds have been salted away in off-shore accounts, and other inaccessable places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 The Buddhists could teach the Catholics a thing or two about extracting money from the poor. Then again, they've had longer to practice. You can bet that they will resist any attempt to keep track of where that money goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Good and necessary plan. Don't be so pessimistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lungmi Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 3 hours ago, halloween said: The Buddhists could teach the Catholics a thing or two about extracting money from the poor. Then again, they've had longer to practice. You can bet that they will resist any attempt to keep track of where that money goes. 80% of Buddhist monks dont know what they have to do. 15% know but they sell the Teaching of The Buddha. 5% know ,my kalyana mitta told me. (The highest crimininal tax per capita in the world has the Vatican) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graemeaylward Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 If the Government blindly give them 4.67 billion baht annually, without checking how this is used, then it is hardly surprising that it is being misused! If I give money to some body or other I want to know exactly what the money is used for. Simple solution, government refuse to give any more money until temple accounts submitted!Sent from my Lenovo A3000-H using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 keeping thai buddhism exactly the way it is is vital to keeping thailand 3rd world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 17 hours ago, webfact said: "If someone asks to know your salary, will you tell them?" he asked. Well, if a government employee, yes. But being a soldier and a member of the coup, unlikely to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) Anybody else suspect that the 3.5 billion annually in donations might be a tad under-reported? Edited June 20, 2017 by halloween Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Starting with the Temples may be a good thing. It seems that too many have people in them that are not the greatest people around. If this Dhammakaya temple would just turn in its former abbot. Maybe the Thai people and foreignors would believe that the temples are all good places. 555 Geezer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFishman1 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Why not have all High Government employees do the same starting with the PM THEN THE HIGHER COPS THEN THE GOVERNOR O wait that wouldn't work TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan B Tong Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddavidovsky Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) " about 80 percent of the 40,758 temples in Thailand submit their annual financial reports for archive purposes, but authorities are not allowed to scrutinize them. " Oh F F S. The unaccountability of the temples is clearly officially sanctioned. Edited June 20, 2017 by ddavidovsky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 What was the end of the story with Wat Phra Dhammakaya..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 the last thing any of the head monks want is for anyone else to know exactly how much they are stashing away for themselves, they go against all the buddhist teachings on wealth as well as many other aspects of it. It should be mandatory for all finances of every temple to be declared and audited by govt officers each year, the way its going religion is becoming a huge joke in Thailand with all the corrupt temples being outed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Will the government do the same and force all generals and police chiefs to open their finance? A flying pig just flew past my window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Will the government do the same and force all generals and police chiefs to open their finance? A flying pig just flew past my window. The junta have come up with a sound idea. Quick, find something else to moan about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABloke Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Since most (if not all) laws proposed by the government usually get passed with voting in the range of 197 - 0, it will be interesting to see how this pans out. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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