Hello guys,

 

Up till now I thought that marriage visa holders (Non-O M/E) could apply for work permit.

The not so professional company says otherwise. They say I need to change to non-B which I guess is a complete nonsense.

Would be teaching English and do have master's in English.

 

Any advice would be appreciated.

Many thanks.

If you are married to a Thai immigration have no problem with you working. Getting a work permit/working would not invalidate your permission to stay.

 

The department of labour office that issue the work permit should accept the non 'O' visa/permit along with proof that you're married. However, it is not unheard of for a labour office to insist on a Non 'B'.

 

All that the labour office should be concerned with is that your entry/permit to stay was with a non-immigrant visa, and if it's not a category 'B' that you're married.

 

 

9 hours ago, Poppadom said:

The not so professional company says otherwise. They say I need to change to non-B which I guess is a complete nonsense.

They are not aware that it can be done. Tell them to check with local work permit office about it. Even some agents will say it has to be a non-b visa.

5 hours ago, elviajero said:

If you are married to a Thai immigration have no problem with you working. Getting a work permit/working would not invalidate your permission to stay.

 

The department of labour office that issue the work permit should accept the non 'O' visa/permit along with proof that you're married. However, it is not unheard of for a labour office to insist on a Non 'B'.

 

All that the labour office should be concerned with is that your entry/permit to stay was with a non-immigrant visa, and if it's not a category 'B' that you're married.

 

 

I think many companies want people to get the SE 90 day B visa that is converted to a one year extension of stay based on work. It means that they can finish your contract on short notice and cancel your extension of stay and you end up with 7 days to pack up and leave.

Their belief is that under those circumstances it will be more difficult for you to fight any unfair dismissal and claim for any due severence pay. 

I have had companies where I've been issued a WP on my O try to convince me they had to take me and passport to Imm' and cancel my visa, I have obviously always refused to go along with it.

Edited July 26, 20178 yr by overherebc

4 hours ago, overherebc said:

I think many companies want people to get the SE 90 day B visa that is converted to a one year extension of stay based on work. It means that they can finish your contract on short notice and cancel your extension of stay and you end up with 7 days to pack up and leave.

Their belief is that under those circumstances it will be more difficult for you to fight any unfair dismissal and claim for any due severence pay. 

I have had companies where I've been issued a WP on my O try to convince me they had to take me and passport to Imm' and cancel my visa, I have obviously always refused to go along with it.

By tying in your permission-of-stay to that job, it also increases leverage.  "Going to work that over-nighter we want you to work for free, or not?"  Same thing is done in my country with work-related visas.    Also see how it is played in the case of this fellow in another thread:

Note - he actually has a multi re-entry permit on an immigration-issued extension of stay - if you don't want to read the whole thread, where that is eventually determined - so that is why they have him by the short-hairs, to some extent.

 

Bottom line, I would not give up my Non-O for a job.  Whether it is the HR folks ignorance that you can work on one, or a scheme to get leverage, it is not a "win" choice for the foreigner.

11 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

By tying in your permission-of-stay to that job, it also increases leverage.  "Going to work that over-nighter we want you to work for free, or not?"  Same thing is done in my country with work-related visas.    Also see how it is played in the case of this fellow in another thread:

Note - he actually has a multi re-entry permit on an immigration-issued extension of stay - if you don't want to read the whole thread, where that is eventually determined - so that is why they have him by the short-hairs, to some extent.

 

Bottom line, I would not give up my Non-O for a job.  Whether it is the HR folks ignorance that you can work on one, or a scheme to get leverage, it is not a "win" choice for the foreigner.

Imposible to say how many companies do it for leverage, and I believe they do, compared to those that don't know the rules. On issue once I was handed my WP by the labour dep' and stuck it in my pocket. When we left the company kept telling me it was not allowed for me to hold it and it had to be kept in their safe 'after they endorsed it' whatever that means. I gave them copies of it and kept it myself until the contract finished then handed it back.

Edited July 26, 20178 yr by overherebc

My wife called head of immi here in Phuket and he said if I deposit the required amount to a Thai bank for 2-3 months, then no problem applying for a work permit based on my multiple entry non-o spouse visa. Don't know if I want to move funds from SG to over here for that. Most probably will just do what we did with the dowry: borrow from wife's account and put back after the ceremony. :) Think the guy said 800k for 2 months, but I guess that's for the retirement visa so he may have mixed things up. 

1 minute ago, Poppadom said:

My wife called head of immi here in Phuket and he said if I deposit the required amount to a Thai bank for 2-3 months, then no problem applying for a work permit based on my multiple entry non-o spouse visa.

Immigration does not issue work permits. She should of called the labor ministry who are the ones that issue work permits.

You can get a work permit and work with a multiple entry non-o visa.

3 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Immigration does not issue work permits. She should of called the labor ministry who are the ones that issue work permits.

You can get a work permit and work with a multiple entry non-o visa.

Thanks Ubonjoe - Locally would that be the Phuket Provincial Employment office?

4 minutes ago, Poppadom said:

Thanks Ubonjoe - Locally would that be the Phuket Provincial Employment office?

Yes

48 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Yes

Just out of curiosity, do you use voice to text dictating, instead of typing? :)

Had a work permit, actually three different work permits (three different jobs, two 'self employed if you can call it that') all on Non 'O's' covering nearly 25years. Never had or been asked for a Non B and never a problem. In three different provinces I may add. All have been on extensions.

 

As you say in you post, they are talking complete nonsense.

On Phuket no issues with this, I have had wp while on extension of stay based on marriage here for years now.