webfact Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Prayut Says Gov’t Right To Take Yingluck Assets Before Verdict By Sasiwan Mokkhasen, Staff Reporter Former Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra arrives July 21 at the Supreme Court for the last day of her hearing in Bangkok. Photo: Associated Press BANGKOK — Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha said Thursday his government was right to confiscate the bank accounts of former Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra as it was a separate matter than her malfeasance trial, which has yet to render a verdict. Prayuth said the order to fine Yingluck 35.7 billion baht was issued because the former prime minister must be held accountable for losses of an agricultural subsidy enacted by her government. He said it was irrelevant that her guilt has not yet been established by the court, which is expected to give its decision on Aug. 25. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2017/07/27/prayuth-says-govt-right-take-yingluck-assets-verdict/ -- © Copyright Khaosod English 2017-07-27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 If he does not confiscate it and she leaves he would be seen as a fool. They should just lock it down so nobody can touch it until the verdict is done. Its just a precaution, I am sure she has enough money stashed away somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golgota Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, robblok said: If he does not confiscate it and she leaves he would be seen as a fool. They should just lock it down so nobody can touch it until the verdict is done. Its just a precaution, I am sure she has enough money stashed away somewhere. that is what is called freezing assets, the money is still on her account but nobody can touch it until trial end. Prayuth is playing a dangerous game IMO This must be <deleted>!ing joke: "He said it was irrelevant that her guilt has not yet been established by the court"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, robblok said: If he does not confiscate it and she leaves he would be seen as a fool. They should just lock it down so nobody can touch it until the verdict is done. Its just a precaution, I am sure she has enough money stashed away somewhere. Freeze the assets until the guilty verdict is handed down. We all know it's going to be guilty, so what's the point in taking the money now? Freeze it first. At least this way when she's found guilty you can say you followed the rule of law. This is an awful advert for foreign investment. You'd have to be off your nut to invest anything significant here. There is zero rule of law here. It's all just made up as they go along simply on the whim of a very elite few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 minute ago, rkidlad said: Freeze the assets until the guilty verdict is handed down. We all know it's going to be guilty, so what's the point in taking the money now? Freeze it first. At least this way when she's found guilty you can say you followed the rule of law. This is an awful advert for foreign investment. You'd have to be off your nut to invest anything significant here. There is zero rule of law here. It's all just made up as they go along simply on the whim of a very elite few. Is her money taken of is it frozen.. that is the big question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) He fails to mention that the 35 Billion order was not issued by a court, but an arbitrary decision from him and his team. Yingluck is challenging it in the court and so he should keep his greedy paws off it until the courts have rendered their decision. I suspect he wants to grab it now in case the courts rule against him. And you have to ask why he has targeted her and not the other members of the Government of the day who were also involved with the rice pledging scheme. He should be very careful. Public anger might turn around and bite him in the ass. Edited July 27, 2017 by darksidedog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonmoon Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Of Cos Yingluck will be charged, prosecuted and sentenced/punish in court. It has already been decided way before, if not the basis for the whole coup would be pointless. Even if we all know and disagree, She and her government has to be wrong and held accountable, becos if not what was the point of the Junta seizing power? The verdict has already been passed down. Is there any need to debate on this anymore? The court is just a show that the Junta is following due process. Joke of the Century Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 So...in order to prove that this is not a witch hunt can we expect all former politicians and military personnel guilty of causing losses to the country to be made accountable in the same way ? Somehow I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 The verdict in this case was already determined before the first day of trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 26 minutes ago, robblok said: Is her money taken of is it frozen.. that is the big question. No, it's not. It has been taken. The PM has said so himself in report at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilacme Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) There seems to have been a number of high profile cases recently where the assets of the accused have been seized prior to any guilt being established in a Court of Law. Edited July 27, 2017 by Tilacme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, starky said: Your such a one eyed fool its near emabarrasing how can you justify that it is irrelevant that her guilt has been established...then again we all know how quick you guys submitted to another junta back in WWII You should look up how it goes in other countries often funds are frozen until a judgement is passed down. Just look it up and you will be amazed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asset_freezing Edited July 27, 2017 by robblok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, rkidlad said: No, it's not. It has been taken. The PM has said so himself in report at the top. Quite correct. CONFISCATE: take or seize (someone's property) with authority. If it was frozen, it would be cold hard cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 minute ago, ratcatcher said: Quite correct. CONFISCATE: take or seize (someone's property) with authority. If it was frozen, it would be cold hard cash. It was frozen.. not taken.. according to an other topic. BANGKOK (Reuters) - Former Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, ousted in a 2014 coup, called on her supporters for help as the military government "temporarily froze" 37 of her properties and 16 bank accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnLick Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 He is the law, judge, and executor.. so sure he can. Maybe in the future someone else will turn the table around to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 9 minutes ago, JohnLick said: He is the law, judge, and executor.. so sure he can. Maybe in the future someone else will turn the table around to him. The only people in a position to do that are the ones he is fronting for, so I doubt that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 16 minutes ago, robblok said: It was frozen.. not taken.. according to an other topic. BANGKOK (Reuters) - Former Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, ousted in a 2014 coup, called on her supporters for help as the military government "temporarily froze" 37 of her properties and 16 bank accounts. One just cannot believe what one reads anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Lets correct the little General Prayut, its the Junta not the government , there's no Government with a junta ...................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share Posted July 27, 2017 Yingluck seizure follows law, won’t hurt reconciliation, says Deputy Minister By The Nation Deputy Minister of Defence Gen Udomdej Sitabutr said he believes that seizure of former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra’s assets would not affect the ongoing reconciliation attempt. The matter followed legal process, he said. Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha and Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan had already explained that actions being taken are within the law and the matter was currently proceeding through the justice system, he added. While declining to go into detail, Udomdej said that there was nothing to worry about concerning the case. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30321976 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-07-27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonltr Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 32 minutes ago, ratcatcher said: One just cannot believe what one reads anymore. Just yesterday 26th The Nation posted an article here in Thai visa quoting Yingluch as saying "account frozen - money withdrawn" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, Lemonltr said: Just yesterday 26th The Nation posted an article here in Thai visa quoting Yingluch as saying "account frozen - money withdrawn" That topic is running here: Yingluck says her bank accounts confiscated, money withdrawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 The funny thing is, in not one of the related articles does it mention how much money has been "seized", "frozen" or "confiscated" !! Not even Yingluck discloses a figure ?? Guess she must have already cleaned out her accounts, so she's just using the fact to gain sympathy and the junta is too embarrassed to say she beat them to the cash :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadbury Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 PM Prayut on a whim can confiscate anything he wants from anybody he chooses. His own personal Article 44 gives him that authority. Be it gold mines owned by foreign investors, flash cars, property, money in bank accounts. And there is not a thing anyone can do about it. These special powers of acquisition are not going to go away and the practice will likely expand to other assets of people he is not particularly fond of. Where these seizures end up is the big question. My guess is they will sequestered until forgotten about and later distributed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunna Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I cannot believe how many people believe the lies that are perpetuated by Yingluck & PTP, and then repeated by respectable news agencies so many times that half of the one-eyed Shinawatra supporters believe. eg Yingluck was overthrown by the coup. Total BS Yingluck was removed as PM by the Constitutional Court of Thailand on 7 May 2014, ( For abuse of power ) three weeks before the coup. The PM at the time of the coup was Niwatthamrong Bunsongphaisan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funandsuninbangkok Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, Gunna said: I cannot believe how many people believe the lies that are perpetuated by Yingluck & PTP, and then repeated by respectable news agencies so many times that half of the one-eyed Shinawatra supporters believe. eg Yingluck was overthrown by the coup. Total BS Yingluck was removed as PM by the Constitutional Court of Thailand on 7 May 2014, ( For abuse of power ) three weeks before the coup. The PM at the time of the coup was Niwatthamrong Bunsongphaisan Yes and her money is confiscated three weeks before her verdict. Perfectly normal. Have te your friend scheduled her funeral yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 well it is not as bad as Sulla's proscriptions she is still alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 This gets more medieval every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Referring to Thailand or the government as a dictatorship, military dictatorship or other such terms will be removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 5 hours ago, webfact said: Yingluck seizure follows law, won’t hurt reconciliation, says Deputy Minister By The Nation Deputy Minister of Defence Gen Udomdej Sitabutr said he believes that seizure of former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra’s assets would not affect the ongoing reconciliation attempt. The matter followed legal process, he said. Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha and Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan had already explained that actions being taken are within the law and the matter was currently proceeding through the justice system, he added. While declining to go into detail, Udomdej said that there was nothing to worry about concerning the case. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30321976 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-07-27 Wow that is a big load of self delusion. If the toad believes that, or expects other to do so he really is from an alternative universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 17 hours ago, webfact said: won’t hurt reconciliation, says Deputy Minister can't hurt what doesn't exist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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