Extension of stay based on marriage

[glegolo]

Hi Guys!

 

Like to ask you the following plse!  I know about the different demands for these extensions, so that is NOT my question. I am just simply wondering about one thing how it works in reality with the following.

 

I have to give all these things like copies of this and that, photos of this and that and so on.... But what happens when I come year 2? Do I have to fill in all the very same papers again?? Do I have to supply the photos again, and so forth???  Or is that just for the very first time application???

 

Thank you for any input....

Glegolo

[theguyfromanotherforum]

Every single time.

[ubonjoe]

Same documents and photos every year.

[glegolo]

Thank you so much, both of you guys....

 

Glegolo

[jeab1980]

Not forgeting anything else they may or may not throw in the mix as they see fit.

[electric]

The only change I experienced on 2nd year marriage extension was no home visit by Immi officers.

 

When submitting all my docs at Buriram Immi, the IO came from behind his desk and stood behind my wife and I, whilst another IO took a photo of the 3 of us together.

 

"We have this photo ... no need for home visit now" was their explanation. Hooray for commonsense !! True to his word, we had no home visit. This was back in April.

 

 

[Tanoshi]

4 hours ago, glegolo said:

I have to give all these things like copies of this and that, photos of this and that and so on.... But what happens when I come year 2? Do I have to fill in all the very same papers again?? Do I have to supply the photos again, and so forth???  Or is that just for the very first time application???

 

I keep all copies in a file, then every year it's just print, print, print again.

[Mister T]

Some offices ask for new and differing photos each renewal.

[ubonjoe]

8 minutes ago, Mister T said:

Some offices ask for new and differing photos each renewal.

They do want new photos every year but they don't have to be different other than having different clothes on perhaps.

[JackThompson]

42 minutes ago, Mister T said:

Some offices ask for new and differing photos each renewal.

Best to hold up a copy of a recent newspaper, so they know you didn't just take 40 photos on day-one.
Yes, I am joking - but would not be surprised if such came to pass, as that would actually make the photos demonstrably current.  Or... maybe not, considering photoshop. 

[glegolo]

3 hours ago, Tanoshi said:

 

I keep all copies in a file, then every year it's just print, print, print again.

Good idea... than I do not have to show in my photos how ugly I gets when years are passing.... Still the beutiful face, 55555

 

Glegolo

[glegolo]

A follow up question. This guy came in to Thailand on a VISA excempt entry. Now he is on his way to the extension based on marriage. And he shall do it via converting via a Non O which he will get on Jomtien immigration.

 

He is not 100% capabel to understand the full process and neither obviously am I.. So need to ask you guys, Immigration gave him these "rules" and demands.... And my question is:

 

a - Is this demands for the Non Immigrant "O" or is it for the later coming extension of stay? SEE ENCLOSED BELOW...

b - He also asked me about "showing" income.. Shall he prove his income when applying for this non Imm O?? And then on top of that prove AGAIN when applying for the extension???

 

Thanks for your help...

Glegolo

[ubonjoe]

3 minutes ago, glegolo said:

Good idea... than I do not have to show in my photos how ugly I gets when years are passing.... Still the beutiful face, 55555

 

The photo for the TM7 form would need to be a new one.

[JackThompson]

22 minutes ago, glegolo said:

A follow up question. This guy came in to Thailand on a VISA excempt entry. Now he is on his way to the extension based on marriage. And he shall do it via converting via a Non O which he will get on Jomtien immigration.

 

He is not 100% capabel to understand the full process and neither obviously am I.. So need to ask you guys, Immigration gave him these "rules" and demands.... And my question is:

 

a - Is this demands for the Non Immigrant "O" or is it for the later coming extension of stay? SEE ENCLOSED BELOW...

b - He also asked me about "showing" income.. Shall he prove his income when applying for this non Imm O?? And then on top of that prove AGAIN when applying for the extension???

 

Thanks for your help...

Glegolo

That is the paperwork I received in Jomtien as needed to to a "conversion" of a Tourist-type visa to a Non-O - not the list for the 1-year extension - but there's more.  Start with signed copies of the wife's ID-Card (front and back) and her Tabien Bahn.  Then add in signed copies of your landlord's ID (front and back), landlord's Tabien Bahn, the Tabien Bahn of where you are living.  Those are also needed in Jomtien for a simple 60-day extension to visit your wife. 

 

Then you need to get your embassy-officer's signature on your income-letter certified by the MFA (if using an income-letter vs money in-the-bank).  No translation, here, just signature-verification.  Note that Jomtien-Imm will take the original document, so you have to go back to your Embassy in Bangkok and Get Another One for the 1-year extension, though the 2nd one doesn't have to have the MFA cert of the signature, based on recent reports. 

 

And don't forget item on the doc - 6.1.3 - the "I am single" document, which you gave to the amphoe to get married - so have to go back to the amphoe and get a copy, if you don't have one (since you may have thought the marriage docs would suffice from that point).

 

Note that a full 1-year extension is easier, and try to find the "logic" in why that is.  Clearly, Jomtien is unhappy that Bangkok is making local-offices do conversions, now, and are retaliating my making it difficult.  This is why I am going to Laos for my initial 90-day Non-O based on marriage.  All I will need there, is the signed-copies wife's ID and Tabien Bahn plus my marriage certificate.  It's clearly what Jomtien wants us to do, and I am obliging them - so they don't have to do all that hard-work to process a conversion. 

 

Hopefully, the 1-year extension process is not also turned into a paperwork-circus, or I'll be going to Laos for a "worry-free" 1-year Multi-Entry Non-O. 

[glegolo]

Thank you so much Jack Thompson, great information.

 

Glegolo

[maxcorrigan]

3 hours ago, glegolo said:

Thank you so much Jack Thompson, great information.

 

Glegolo

And also don't forget you need a witness with own housebook from the same vicinity as yourself, i have used the wife's aunt on the three occasions i have renewed extensions, this is a requirement at Jom Thiem emigration, some say the witness must not be a family member but we have had no trouble using the wife's aunt as mentioned above!

 

[JackThompson]

1 hour ago, maxcorrigan said:

And also don't forget you need a witness with own housebook from the same vicinity as yourself, i have used the wife's aunt on the three occasions i have renewed extensions, this is a requirement at Jom Thiem emigration, some say the witness must not be a family member but we have had no trouble using the wife's aunt as mentioned above!

Is that needed for the conversion to Non-O, or only for the 1-year extension?  I would not be surprised if it is for both.

[Toscano]

My advice is , Do Not get An Extension Of Stay Based On MARRIAGE !!!  You will indeed have to produce the same mountain of documents including new photos every year , plus often some new documents you could find no prior notice of .  Immigration doesn't like the bother of so many documents all in duplicate .

If you possibly can , get a Retirement Visa , it will save you a lot of bother , also you can continue to live where you like in Thailand if marriage doesn't work out .  

Retirement Visa requirements are ,

Bt800,000 in the Thai bank 3 months before extension , or Income of Bt65,000 + per month , or Bt400,000 in the Thai bank and income of Bt40,000 + per month .

[glegolo]

4 minutes ago, Toscano said:

My advice is , Do Not get An Extension Of Stay Based On MARRIAGE !!!  You will indeed have to produce the same mountain of documents including new photos every year , plus often some new documents you could find no prior notice of .  Immigration doesn't like the bother of so many documents all in duplicate .

If you possibly can , get a Retirement Visa , it will save you a lot of bother , also you can continue to live where you like in Thailand if marriage doesn't work out .  

Retirement Visa requirements are ,

Bt800,000 in the Thai bank 3 months before extension , or Income of Bt65,000 + per month , or Bt400,000 in the Thai bank and income of Bt40,000 + per month .

As said, I am aware of the different demands from the immigration, and do fully agree with you!!

Life is life!!

 

Glegolo

[ubonjoe]

19 minutes ago, Toscano said:

My advice is , Do Not get An Extension Of Stay Based On MARRIAGE !!!  You will indeed have to produce the same mountain of documents including new photos every year , plus often some new documents you could find no prior notice of .

Such a typical exaggeration of what is needed. Certainly not a mountain of documents it is actually about 4 extra copies and and 4 photos. Have you done an extension based upon marriage or are you going by hearsay.

You also forgot one important requirement for getting an extension based upon retirement. A person must be 50 or over to apply.

[Phuket Man]

5 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Such a typical exaggeration of what is needed. Certainly not a mountain of documents it is actually about 4 extra copies and and 4 photos. Have you done an extension based upon marriage or are you going by hearsay.

You also forgot one important requirement for getting an extension based upon retirement. A person must be 50 or over to apply.

Yes. There is so much false information going around.

Marriage extensions are quick, simple and easy to do.

I don't know why these scaremongers insist they are not.

I am usually in and out of Immigration within an hour with my Marriage extensions.

 

Retirement extensions are slightly easier, but nothing to push you in that direction.

 

 

[Tanoshi]

57 minutes ago, Toscano said:

My advice is , Do Not get An Extension Of Stay Based On MARRIAGE !!!  You will indeed have to produce the same mountain of documents including new photos every year , plus often some new documents you could find no prior notice of .  Immigration doesn't like the bother of so many documents all in duplicate .

If you possibly can , get a Retirement Visa , it will save you a lot of bother , also you can continue to live where you like in Thailand if marriage doesn't work out .  

You have to produce the same documents year after year for the Retirement extension as well.

Perhaps you could list this extra 'mountain' of documents required for the marriage extension.

[Tanoshi]

On ‎29‎/‎07‎/‎2017 at 8:35 AM, jeab1980 said:

Not forgeting anything else they may or may not throw in the mix as they see fit.

Most helpful post of the year.

Perhaps you could detail these 'anything's' they throw in the mix.

[theguyfromanotherforum]

I wish I was 50.

My wife went to immigration last time, she even seasoned my bank account, but this time she refused to take a day off work for my extension. She think it's stupid and unnecessary and to be honest I definitely agree with her. Presenting the mountain of evidence, including the humiliating pictures of you in bed is apparently not enough, so she has to show her mug every year too. Well, she will probably end up going, but she is royally pissed off about it.

[jeab1980]

42 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

Most helpful post of the year.

Perhaps you could detail these 'anything's' they throw in the mix.

Well theres the rub how can you list anything they may throw into the mix . Understanding posts is not your strong point is it my post said,

"Not forgeting anything else they may or may not throw in the mix as they see fit"

 

 

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

Such a typical exaggeration of what is needed. Certainly not a mountain of documents it is actually about 4 extra copies and and 4 photos. Have you done an extension based upon marriage or are you going by hearsay.

You also forgot one important requirement for getting an extension based upon retirement. A person must be 50 or over to apply.

Plus on extension based on marriage a workpermit can be attained.

[glegolo]

57 minutes ago, Phuket Man said:

Yes. There is so much false information going around.

Marriage extensions are quick, simple and easy to do.

I don't know why these scaremongers insist they are not.

I am usually in and out of Immigration within an hour with my Marriage extensions.

 

Retirement extensions are slightly easier, but nothing to push you in that direction.

 

 

There is a lot of posts of different opinions what to choose.... retirement or marriage-option... Up to each and everyone... But agree to what some posters say and mean....

 

It is difficult to see through all the "mist" and "fog", when people trying to defend their own situations and choices in life. Out in real life, when I meet folks, reason for marriage-alternative is always that they do not have enough income/pension to meet the demand from the retirement-alternative. Or if they are not of age 50 yet...

 

When I meet people in the world of forums, than it is not that argument anymore, now they can not admit it, but now they are instead claiming that it is economicly unsound to lock money on a bank-account, it is better to choose 400.000 to lock, instead of 800.000 baht. So now people are financially free to do what they want....

 

This is somewhat why  have a hard time to believe some reasoning in the forum-world. I see for myself "different folks different strokes" and it is up for each and everyone to choose what ever. I do not want to repeat again the demands for retirement and for marriage, but there is a lot more efforts to be made when choosing marriage, everybody must see that I guess? Even the ones choosing marriage, even if it is not volontarily..

 

Glegolo

[Tanoshi]

10 minutes ago, jeab1980 said:

Well theres the rub how can you list anything they may throw into the mix . Understanding posts is not your strong point is it my post said,

"Not forgeting anything else they may or may not throw in the mix as they see fit"

still got your post count up eh.

 

Excuses!

Can't back up your statement with facts.

Your making statements from 'hearsay' and not from 'experience'

That mix is know as 'BS'. 

[CharlieH]

Keep it civil and no personal attacks please.

[Phuket Man]

There is no right or wrong way.

It is whatever suits you.

Both methods are reasonably simple.