webfact Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 North Korea will develop Guam strike plan by mid-August: KCNA By Christine Kim and Soyoung Kim North Korean Leader Kim Jong Un signs the order to carry out the test-fire of inter-continental ballistic rocket Hwasong-14 in this undated photo released by North Korea's Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) in Pyongyang, July, 4 2017. KCNA/via REUTERS SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea will develop a plan by mid-August to launch four intermediate range missiles at the U.S. territory of Guam before presenting it to leader Kim Jong Un who will make a decision on whether to proceed, the North's state media said on Thursday. The unusually detailed report on the attack plan marked a further escalation in tensions between Pyongyang and Washington after U.S. President Donald Trump warned North Korea earlier this week it would face "fire and fury" if it threatened the United States. North Korea's official news agency KCNA described Trump's threat as a "load of nonsense". "Sound dialogue is not possible with such a guy bereft of reason and only absolute force can work on him," it said of Trump, adding that it will keep closely watching the speech and behaviour of the United States. The North Korean army is developing a plan "in order to interdict the enemy forces on major military bases on Guam and to signal a crucial warning to the United States," the KCNA report said. Guam is home to about 163,000 people and a U.S. military base that includes a submarine squadron, an airbase and a Coast Guard group. "The Hwasong-12 rockets to be launched by the KPA (Korean People's Army) will cross the sky above Shimane, Hiroshima and Koichi Prefectures of Japan," the report said, citing General Kim Rak Gyom, commander of the Strategic Force of the KPA. "They will fly 3,356.7 km (2,085.8 miles) for 1,065 seconds and hit the waters 30 to 40 km away from Guam." Tensions surged this week after Trump's warning to the isolated state to give up its nuclear weapons and missile programmes. North Korea carried out two nuclear bomb tests last year and two intercontinental ballistic missile tests in July. Trump has said he will not allow Pyongyang to develop a nuclear weapon capable of hitting the United States. U.S. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis also issued a stark warning to North Korea on Wednesday, telling Pyongyang it should stop any actions that would lead to the "end of its regime and the destruction of its people." (Editing by Lincoln Feast) -- © Copyright Reuters 2017-08-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Enough is enough. Go in, get it over with and hopefully civilization will survive afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 This guy just likes to stir things up. Worse than Trump! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 As stated in another thread: A nuked NK is not an option. Time is running out Now Trump has to deal with what his predecessors messed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 11 minutes ago, sweatalot said: As stated in another thread: A nuked NK is not an option. Time is running out Now Trump has to deal with what his predecessors messed up. Problems with NK and nuclear weapons have been going on since 1993....a loooooong time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 1 hour ago, webfact said: North Korea will develop a plan by mid-August to launch four intermediate range missiles at the U.S. territory of Guam before presenting it to leader Kim Jong Un who will make a decision on whether to proceed, the North's state media said on Thursday. Kim may be a psycho, but he is not suicidal and will understand only too well the consequences of going through with it. This is sabre rattling to piss the Donald off, who has been stupid enough to get involved in a war of empty threats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotsak Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Apparently the N. Koreans realized that Trump is a narcissistic egomaniac and now they play him like a fiddle.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Just now, darksidedog said: Kim may be a psycho, but he is not suicidal and will understand only too well the consequences of going through with it. This is sabre rattling to piss the Donald off, who has been stupid enough to get involved in a war of empty threats. Who knows. He may be suicidal? Saddam was in the same shape. Didn't he declare the "mother of all battles". Then was found in a ditch. I'd call that suicidal! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 A memorable line out of a movie: if you want to shoot, shoot, don't talk... or broadcast your plans for attacks..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, darksidedog said: Kim may be a psycho, but he is not suicidal and will understand only too well the consequences of going through with it. This is sabre rattling to piss the Donald off, who has been stupid enough to get involved in a war of empty threats. How can you know he is not suicidal? Does his behavior exclude this? Or even make it seem unlikely? And if he is - that's really dangerous! Then he will not care to commit suicide like a giant suicide bomber together with his people and as much of his "enemies" as he can. It might be wise not to exclude this possibility. Edited August 10, 2017 by sweatalot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijb Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 (he's afraid of his own shadow...sounds like Trump :) "You never know how the North Koreans are going react ... especially Kim Jong Un who's afraid of his own shadow, who is concerned about him being toppled, regime change," said Richardson, adding he was encouraged that Secretary of State Rex Tillerson tamped down Trump's rhetoric. https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/09/north-korean-leader-kim-jong-un-is-afraid-of-his-own-shadow-says-bill-richardson.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gummy Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 1 hour ago, kotsak said: Apparently the N. Koreans realized that Trump is a narcissistic egomaniac and now they play him like a fiddle.. Absolutely. Kim dangles the bait and Trump bites instantly. Shame the idiots who voted him in do not have much understanding as how this goon is making the US a laughing stock and can be baited by nearly anyone. Mind you his eyesight must be near perfect with all the carrots he bites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golgota Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 1 hour ago, craigt3365 said: Who knows. He may be suicidal? Saddam was in the same shape. Didn't he declare the "mother of all battles". Then was found in a ditch. I'd call that suicidal! LOL He is killing himself fast enough by eating a whole wheel of swiss cheese a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 2 hours ago, webfact said: "They will fly 3,356.7 km (2,085.8 miles) for 1,065 seconds and hit the waters 30 to 40 km away from Guam." I'm confused; this sounds more like a shot across the bows with unarmed ballistic missles than a nuclear strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadeeken Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 NOW HE HAS WARNED EVERYBODY, of his intent....... The US needs to be ready to shoot them out of the sky as the come over 'international waters' before they even get close to passing over Japan.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 4 hours ago, darksidedog said: Kim may be a psycho, but he is not suicidal and will understand only too well the consequences of going through with it. This is sabre rattling to piss the Donald off, who has been stupid enough to get involved in a war of empty threats. So we need to rely on Kim's knowing when to stop baiting Donald, and on Donald not losing it too early. Can't rightly say who's more stupid, but pretty sure both got cozy hideaways if the worst happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 11 minutes ago, sawadeeken said: NOW HE HAS WARNED EVERYBODY, of his intent....... The US needs to be ready to shoot them out of the sky as the come over 'international waters' before they even get close to passing over Japan.............. Shooting ballistic missiles out of the sky is easier said than done, even under optimal conditions. Say the US attempts to intercept and misses, what was gained? Say, for argument's sake, we're talking non-conventional warhead, what happens if it gets hit? Not so simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, Morch said: Shooting ballistic missiles out of the sky is easier said than done, even under optimal conditions. Say the US attempts to intercept and misses, what was gained? Say, for argument's sake, we're talking non-conventional warhead, what happens if it gets hit? Not so simple. yeh right .... them things move so damn fast it's hard to keep the sights on them ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 25 minutes ago, sawadeeken said: NOW HE HAS WARNED EVERYBODY, of his intent....... The US needs to be ready to shoot them out of the sky as the come over 'international waters' before they even get close to passing over Japan.............. They should put in a call to the Starship Enterprise. Because anti-ballistic missile systems are nearly as unreal as that vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golgota Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said: They should put in a call to the Starship Enterprise. Because anti-ballistic missile systems are nearly as unreal as that vehicle. Enteprise could "beam the missiles up, scotty!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 11 minutes ago, steven100 said: yeh right .... them things move so damn fast it's hard to keep the sights on them ... More a case of who-knew-intercepting-ballistic-missiles-could-be-complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirmud63 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Just as well nobody takes this nut job seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gummy Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, smedly said: Just as well nobody takes this nut job seriously Nobody but Trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Mee Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Bill Clinton gave the NORKS. the OK. He's got a lot to answer for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 1 hour ago, gummy said: Nobody but Trump Are you kidding? Look at most of the responses on these threads. They are falling for all this overhyped rhetoric hook, line and sinker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman777 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Well Trump couldn't use "shock and Awe" again, So they came up with "fire and fury" Who writes this stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, rocketman777 said: Well Trump couldn't use "shock and Awe" again, So they came up with "fire and fury" Who writes this stuff? Vince McMahon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 1 hour ago, baboon said: Are you kidding? Look at most of the responses on these threads. They are falling for all this overhyped rhetoric hook, line and sinker. Doubt that's factually correct. Then again, it seems that you consider anything not fully in line with your views as "overhyped rhetoric". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 18 hours ago, webfact said: North Korea will develop a plan by mid-August to launch four intermediate range missiles at the U.S. territory of Guam before presenting it to leader Kim Jong Un What's the Great One going to do on being presented with Guam? Frame it? Still, nothing like giving notice of intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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