candide Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, robblok said: Funnily there were even red supporters protesting against the amnesty... so seems like a big deal. Ahem...Wasn't it you who told us repeatedly that red shirts always obey Thaksin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 10 hours ago, silent said: She'd probably score better on an English language test than many educated native citizens can Racist comment. 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomta Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 19 minutes ago, robblok said: Did the people make her step down yes or no ? Well, no, it wasn't the people and I believe you've said this yourself - forgive me if I am wrong - it was the Constitutional Court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomta Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 19 minutes ago, robblok said: Funnily there were even red supporters protesting against the amnesty... so seems like a big deal. Everyone has a right to protest -well at least everyone had that right four years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomta Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Siripon said: Some political red shirts protested because they saw it as a quid pro quo- Thaksin got an amnesty along with Apisit and Suthep- a sell out in their eyes, but the majority of red shirts would certainly have agreed with the amnesty. You've conducted a properly organized poll on this question then. I'd like to see the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion58 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Quote Chaiyan Chaiyaporn, a political science lecturer at Chulalongkorn University, said if the former PM really had been helped to flee by people in power, “that would be damaging to the justice system and confidence in the country’s security”. LOL! Did anyone really have any confidence in either the justice system or the country's "security" (Erawan Shrine bombing, anyone?) to begin with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanesox Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Land of hypocrisy and the worst hypocrites in Asia Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 hours ago, sjaak327 said: Fair enough. Now as Halloween seems to claim, she most definitely bribed her way out, once again showing the utter incompetence of the Junta. Oh would I want to be a fly on the wall in prayuth's office last friday. From the man who claims there is NO evidence against Yingluk when there is plenty, an immediate jump to accept as fact the junta's involvement when there is only supposition, followed by the false claim I stated anything " most definitely". Hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calexapic Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, halloween said: From the man who claims there is NO evidence against Yingluk when there is plenty, an immediate jump to accept as fact the junta's involvement when there is only supposition, followed by the false claim I stated anything " most definitely". Hypocrite. So what is your supposition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, calexapic said: So what is your supposition? I prefer to wait for evidence, but I seriously doubt any orders were issued to allow her to escape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, halloween said: From the man who claims there is NO evidence against Yingluk when there is plenty, an immediate jump to accept as fact the junta's involvement when there is only supposition, followed by the false claim I stated anything " most definitely". Hypocrite. So you think she managed to sneak out without the Junta knowing ? My oh my, didn't they claim they had her under surveilance 24/7. Which is it, if we have to believe Prawit, they had nothing to do with her disappearance. If that is the case, they are utterly incompetent. But there is of course ample evidence to establish that already. Now what about that evidence that dear Yingluck was negligent, still dying to see relevant evidence. And no, not attending a few meetings here or there, does not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she was negligent. Don't blame me, I did not invent this show case, the junta did... In any case, she appears to be gone, so a big screw you to the Junta, I for one applaud that. Edited August 27, 2017 by sjaak327 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Becker said: It's probably worth mentioning that after the attempted amnesty by the elected government of YL people were allowed to protest. After the actual amnesty the junta gave themselves people who had protested would have been jailed or worse. See the difference? Well, as long as they didn't mind potshots and grenades being lobbed there way by loyal red shirts. Or don't you recall last weeks jailing of the killers of the 2 children? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, sjaak327 said: So you think she managed to sneak out without the Junta knowing ? My oh my, didn't they claim they had her under surveilance 24/7. Which is it, if we have to believe Prawit, they had nothing to do with her disappearance. If that is the case, they are utterly incompetent. But there is of course ample evidence to establish that already. Now what about that evidence that dear Yingluck was negligent, still dying to see relevant evidence. And no, not attending a few meetings here or there, does not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she was negligent. Don't blame me, I did not invent this show case, the junta did... In any case, she appears to be gone, so a big screw you to the Junta, I for one applaud that. A fine demonstration of the alleged hypocrisy. Thank you. No denial of your false claim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, halloween said: Well, as long as they didn't mind potshots and grenades being lobbed there way by loyal red shirts. Or don't you recall last weeks jailing of the killers of the 2 children? 5555 weak very weak. You were the one talking about evidence, so where is the evidence the YL government was responsible for the things you mentioned. The poster you responded to is right, during YL's tenure, people were allowed to protest. Those are facts, that cannot possibly be denied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, halloween said: A fine demonstration of the alleged hypocrisy. Thank you. No denial of your false claim? What false claim ? That the junta aided her in her escape ? Provide evidence to the contrary please. No way she could have sneaked out without someone turning a blind eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 She's a tasty wench she can kip at mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, sjaak327 said: 5555 weak very weak. You were the one talking about evidence, so where is the evidence the YL government was responsible for the things you mentioned. The poster you responded to is right, during YL's tenure, people were allowed to protest. Those are facts, that cannot possibly be denied. Can you not read? Where was the claim that Yingluk government was responsible? Is it really necessary to misrepresent what others have posted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 minute ago, sjaak327 said: What false claim ? That the junta aided her in her escape ? Provide evidence to the contrary please. No way she could have sneaked out without someone turning a blind eye. You wrote " Now as Halloween seems to claim, she most definitely bribed her way out, ....." Show me where or admit that was a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, halloween said: Can you not read? Where was the claim that Yingluk government was responsible? Is it really necessary to misrepresent what others have posted? Then why the reference, the claim that people were allowed to protest is correct, no need to try and add any doubts. People are currently not allowed to protest, those are facts, no need to comment any further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, halloween said: You wrote " Now as Halloween seems to claim, she most definitely bribed her way out, ....." Show me where or admit that was a lie. Post #230: A theoretical situation endorsed by the reds because it suits their agenda; it sounds so much better than the filthy rich criminal bribed her way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, sjaak327 said: Then why the reference, the claim that people were allowed to protest is correct, no need to try and add any doubts. People are currently not allowed to protest, those are facts, no need to comment any further. So the answer is you have comprehension challenges. They were allowed to protest if being attacked by red shirts didn't scare them off, and they were attacked on a regular basis. Edited August 27, 2017 by halloween Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 minute ago, halloween said: Well, as long as they didn't mind potshots and grenades being lobbed there way by loyal red shirts. Or don't you recall last weeks jailing of the killers of the 2 children? Just to add, the subject topic Yingluck how she left---no one knows, why she left we all know. but if you took a vote on the popularity of a military government, most would say NO. the problem here on visa is any topic that can be twisted to bring up the military PM a number of well known posters use that to have a dig at the him. It seems to be an agenda, in fact a hatred. Who ever does wrong should be brought to order, and that includes any military persons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 minute ago, sjaak327 said: Post #230: A theoretical situation endorsed by the reds because it suits their agenda; it sounds so much better than the filthy rich criminal bribed her way out. And where is the claim she "most definitely" bribed her way out. You are seeing what you want to see, not what is written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damrongsak Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 13 hours ago, klauskunkel said: the border is long and has many bushes, the sky is big with many clouds, the river is deep and the mountain is high... thank you for helping me understand the various concepts involved Pocahontas take canoe to Singapore and fly away on big silver eagle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, halloween said: And where is the claim she "most definitely" bribed her way out. You are seeing what you want to see, not what is written. So you deny claiming that she bribed her way out ? It's in black and white for crying out loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 minute ago, sjaak327 said: So you deny claiming that she bribed her way out ? It's in black and white for crying out loud. Go away, sober up or learn to read. I said one claim sounds better than another without endorsing either and saying nothing "most definitely". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, halloween said: Go away, sober up or learn to read. I said one claim sounds better than another without endorsing either and saying nothing "most definitely". I am sober thank you. Time for some Havana Club rum. In any case, what do you think is the most likely situation ? Pray tell how she would even be able to bribe her way out, after all wasn't this administration all about extraditing corruption ? Don't answer that one, you will eventually see the light. Practice what you preach, you have no idea how this country works. Time to sober up or use better booze. By the way, the term Theoretical situation in my book means endorsement for the alternative.. Edited August 27, 2017 by sjaak327 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 13 minutes ago, halloween said: You wrote " Now as Halloween seems to claim, she most definitely bribed her way out, ....." Show me where or admit that was a lie. It seems it should have to be proven by the anti-Military section that they did help her out----- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, ginjag said: It seems it should have to be proven by the anti-Military section that they did help her out----- It is either that or they are utterly incompetent. Take your pick. Pray tell how a high profile suspect in what might have been the court case of the century, managed (presumably) to sneak out of the country just days before the verdict ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Becker said: I think you'll find that very, very few people today believe that YL escaped without the junta's consent. Sorry if that interferes with your green/yellow agenda. Request to mods: could you please arrange a poll on the subject? Many years ago everybody believed the earth was flat. Most of the people alive today believe in god(s). That doesn't make either supposition true. OTOH many people people believe the Shinawatras a lying conniving thieves and have much supporting evidence. Many more will admit Thailand's so-called democracy was nothing but a farce to conceal a criminal conspiracy. Others will deny both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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