george Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 (edited) I'll return to post of prime minister: Thaksin Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra Monday vowed to fight his way back to the post of prime minister and vowed to return to Thailand. He made the announcement through a 20-minute phone-in to the Pheu Thai Party seminar in Nakhon Ratchasima. During the phonein, he affirmed to the MPs and executives of Pheu Thai that he would fight against his opponents for justice. "I would like to tell the people that I'll be ready to return to the post of prime minister again if the people are also ready," Thaksin said. "But if the people give up, it will also be tantamount to my defeat as well." -- The Nation 2009-02-02 Edited February 10, 2009 by Reimar topic titel adjusted and take out the apostrophe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc2 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Thaksin is like Sauron looking for the ring of power once people realise Abhisit is just a poor working version of Thaksin, Thaksin as PM again won't seem so bad. this announcement will put a wind in the sail of the reds for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumnien Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 The ABA movement is quickly growing in Thailand - Anyone But Abhisit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonthai Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 every taxi driver, shopkeeper, massage therapist and all other people I talk in bangkok would like to see taksin's come back - so he is better than the other lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred2007 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 So in Thailand we allow convicted criminals to govern the country then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 every taxi driver, shopkeeper, massage therapist and all other people I talk in bangkok would like to see taksin's come back - so he is better than the other lot Wow .. you sure must not talk to anybody actually in or from BKK then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cclub75 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 The ABA movement is quickly growing in Thailand - Anyone But Abhisit! Of course. Thaksin has a highway toward him... Thaksin has just to wait... That's the good point with real fighters : they never give up. he's a crook sure, but he's really smarter than all the military, PAD, democrats. So the show will continue ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cclub75 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 So in Thailand we allow convicted criminals to govern the country then ? Sure. Thailand is a country that even allows a bunch of demented generals to make coups and bring down governments. So you see, there is no limit in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowder Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra Monday vowed to fight his way back to the post of prime minister and vowed to return to Thailand.He made the announcement through a 20-minute phone-in to the Pheu Thai Party seminar in Nakhon Ratchasima. During the phonein, he affirmed to the MPs and executives of Pheu Thai that he would fight against his opponents for justice. this paragraph sound good and all"I would like to tell the people that I'll be ready to return to the post of prime minister again if the people are also ready," Thaksin said."But if the people give up, it will also be tantamount to my defeat as well." and then this last two give it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhatami Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 every taxi driver, shopkeeper, massage therapist and all other people I talk in bangkok would like to see taksin's come back - so he is better than the other lot Thaksin, need to decide how much money he can spend to buy back the PM job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 (edited) this announcement will put a wind in the sail of the reds for sure I don't see why it would... one of the main Red Shirt Leaders clearly said their protests did not involve Thaksin in the slightest or have anything whatsoever to do with him. Bangkok Post / today:Another UDD leader, Natthawut Saikua, said the UDD protest had nothing to do with Thaksin and those joining it had not been paid as claimed by some opponents. Natthawut claimed people backed the UDD because they wanted a government that represented the people or are you saying Nattawut was not exactly being honest? Edited February 2, 2009 by sriracha john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george Posted February 2, 2009 Author Share Posted February 2, 2009 I guess Thaksin is banned from politics for years ahead, and have to serve a jail term as well. Until then it's unlikely IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumnien Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I guess Thaksin is banned from politics for years ahead, and have to serve a jail term as well. Until then it's unlikely IMHO. The coup-makers of the 2006 takeover "convicted" Thaksin. As soon as they are on the run, which shouldn't be long now, no jail term will be necessary. Neither Thaksin nor the leaders of the PAD will rot in jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man River Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 The ABA movement is quickly growing in Thailand - Anyone But Abhisit! Of course. Thaksin has a highway toward him... Abhisit is such a clown (look his latest priority... online prostitution)... he's going to get crunched by the crumbling economy. Thaksin has just to wait... That's the good point with real fighters : they never give up. he's a crook sure, but he's really smarter than all the military, PAD, democrats. So the show will continue ! I know Thaksin is smart, but then is he really smarter than the military? Read this: http://nationmultimedia.com/2009/02/02/opi...on_30094723.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Thailand: A country where anyone can be PM (and they don't even have to grow up)! I certainly didn't care much for Thaksin, but Abhisit isn't quite the shining star I thought he would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 every taxi driver, shopkeeper, massage therapist and all other people I talk in bangkok would like to see taksin's come back - so he is better than the other lot ? But seriously though, compare Thaksin (and Obama for that matter) to Abh(ph)isit. The first two were pumping out real policies that led to real differences from the moment they got into office. Admittedly Thaksin's policies always had a self-enriching aspect as well. But my point is they are real politicians. Anyone can see Abhisit is floundering. What real initiatives has he started working on? It's beginning to look like he is nothing but a pretty face. He's had years in opposition to formulate his policy ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmugFarangBore Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 My crystal ball says: This mob will cop all the flak for the dreadful economy this year and the protests will grow for them to resign. Fair elections won't be held as they won't give power back to the rural electorate. The military will further tighten their grip on power and we'll see some real trouble. People will be begging for Thaksin to return. Anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I guess Thaksin is banned from politics for years ahead, and have to serve a jail term as well. Until then it's unlikely IMHO. The coup-makers of the 2006 takeover "convicted" Thaksin. As soon as they are on the run, which shouldn't be long now, no jail term will be necessary. Neither Thaksin nor the leaders of the PAD will rot in jail. apparently you missed the court cases and the broken laws .... and remember he has to appear in court at least once for the next cases to be brought against him! (Meaning he'll have to stay away for another 9 years) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumnien Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I guess Thaksin is banned from politics for years ahead, and have to serve a jail term as well. Until then it's unlikely IMHO. The coup-makers of the 2006 takeover "convicted" Thaksin. As soon as they are on the run, which shouldn't be long now, no jail term will be necessary. Neither Thaksin nor the leaders of the PAD will rot in jail. apparently you missed the court cases and the broken laws .... and remember he has to appear in court at least once for the next cases to be brought against him! (Meaning he'll have to stay away for another 9 years) Politics is the art of negotiation and compromise; and this is Thailand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I guess Thaksin is banned from politics for years ahead, and have to serve a jail term as well. Until then it's unlikely IMHO. The coup-makers of the 2006 takeover "convicted" Thaksin. As soon as they are on the run, which shouldn't be long now, no jail term will be necessary. Neither Thaksin nor the leaders of the PAD will rot in jail. apparently you missed the court cases and the broken laws .... and remember he has to appear in court at least once for the next cases to be brought against him! (Meaning he'll have to stay away for another 9 years) Politics is the art of negotiation and compromise; and this is Thailand... I am sorry ... what are you trying to say here? That your prediction is bogus? or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf5370 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 (edited) What just a month ago everyone was going on about how it was looking up that British born Abhisit was to be PM. Now, everyone is slagging him off - is it soemthing to do with the fact that he doesn't like College girls earning extra income by selling their bodies on the internet? I don't think we can expect him to be puking out new policies left, right and centre as Obama is, Obama has a h3ck of a lot more money behind him - another post here was stating that he was handed a reserve less than a month's worth of civil servant wages! Not a lot to build on. Thaksin made no end of promises, predictions and policy statements - mostly to fool the rural vote into thinking he was a savior that loved the struggling underclasses. Many promises and predictions turn out as hot air, and many of the policies he did put in '30 baht medical' etc sounded good, but never worked - many of the others helped him and his family and companies, but not many others - and certainly not the working classes and below. I think we need to give him more time before we make a judgement and give him enough rope - this country really doesn't need more change that's for sure. Edited February 2, 2009 by wolf5370 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovenman Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 "I would like to tell the people that I'll be ready to return to the post of prime minister again if the people are also ready," Thaksin said."But if the people give up, it will also be tantamount to my defeat as well." Or perhaps more to the point, it would be tantamount to Mr Big losing all that money for ever and ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I guess Thaksin is banned from politics for years ahead, and have to serve a jail term as well. Until then it's unlikely IMHO. The coup-makers of the 2006 takeover "convicted" Thaksin. As soon as they are on the run, which shouldn't be long now, no jail term will be necessary. Neither Thaksin nor the leaders of the PAD will rot in jail. apparently you missed the court cases and the broken laws .... and remember he has to appear in court at least once for the next cases to be brought against him! (Meaning he'll have to stay away for another 9 years) Politics is the art of negotiation and compromise; and this is Thailand... And payments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I'll return to post of prime minister: ThaksinFormer prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra Monday vowed to fight his way back to the post of prime minister and vowed to return to Thailand. He made the announcement through a 20-minute phone-in to the Pheu Thai Party seminar in Nakhon Ratchasima. During the phonein, he affirmed to the MPs and executives of Pheu Thai that he would fight against his opponents for justice. "I would like to tell the people that I'll be ready to return to the post of prime minister again if the people are also ready," Thaksin said. "But if the people give up, it will also be tantamount to my defeat as well." -- The Nation 2009-02-02 Don't see much sign of that. Hiding under a rock with a phone, making increasingly ridiculous calls in an effort to try and raise a little stink whenever things aren't going to plan isn't exactly fighting for justice. He'd sound a little more convincing if he'd stayed to face his opponents rather than fleeing. He saw how the red shirts demonstration fizzled out on Saturday and he's worried that Abhisit is doing okay and the majority of the people are giving him a chance, so he's getting desperate. The man's scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumnien Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinthailand Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 So in Thailand we allow convicted criminals to govern the country then ? I notice this is in the present tense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaze Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Read this:http://nationmultimedia.com/2009/02/02/opi...on_30094723.php Thanks for including that link- an excellent piece. Hopefully, once the Nation has 'partnered up' with Thai Visa, Chiang Noi will get his own subforum. Should raise the level of debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumnien Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 So in Thailand we allow convicted criminals to govern the country then ? I notice this is in the present tense Kosit has yet to be convicted of high crimes against the state for his involvement with the PAD. You can bet there is a bit of negotiation and compromise behind the scenes on this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 So in Thailand we allow convicted criminals to govern the country then ? I notice this is in the present tense Kosit has yet to be convicted of high crimes against the state for his involvement with the PAD. You can bet there is a bit of negotiation and compromise behind the scenes on this one! High crimes? Participating in a sit-in at the airport is now a "High Crime against the State"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man River Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 every taxi driver, shopkeeper, massage therapist and all other people I talk in bangkok would like to see taksin's come back - so he is better than the other lot ? But seriously though, compare Thaksin (and Obama for that matter) to Abh(ph)isit. The first two were pumping out real policies that led to real differences from the moment they got into office. Admittedly Thaksin's policies always had a self-enriching aspect as well. But my point is they are real politicians. Anyone can see Abhisit is floundering. What real initiatives has he started working on? It's beginning to look like he is nothing but a pretty face. He's had years in opposition to formulate his policy ideas. Thaksin inherited an economy that was beginning to see light (thanks to the Democrats), while Abhisit has inherited a complete economic mess that is part of an even bigger global economic mess. Also, Thaksin's TRT enjoyed an absolute majority in parliament, while Abhisit's government is a coalition government, meaning Abhisit can't jump in and put things in place until he has an agreement from the other coalition partners. It slows things down. Note, re your inclusion of Obama, the US doesn't have a coalition government either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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