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I have booked a new car, the sales guy said the car will be delivered by late december. So which means it will be a 2014 production year model, so i was wondering if i delay and wait a few days and tell them i want a 2015 production year model. Will it change anything?

Anyone getting slowdown today? Youtube not loading and some international websites also not loading. Ping to google dns higher than normal used to be under 30 now 80-100

 
Who are you with?  This is important to allow people the opportunity to check their connections on the same provider.

Cat telecom, everything is fine now

Have you tried Axence NetTools (free) to check the routing. There does appear to have been some issues with this over the past week. Let it run a trace for 10 minutes and post results.

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Cant even open their website to download

Anyone getting slowdown today? Youtube not loading and some international websites also not loading. Ping to google dns higher than normal used to be under 30 now 80-100

And what about safety? Besides the safety structure and side impact beams, there are probably more airbags than you can guess - dual front SRS, curtain, side, and driver knee airbags.

Wow thats good

I just wish they would triple their "international" speed vs just increasing their push to get people on higher speed plans and tempting them with promotions which gives them higher domestic speed for 12 months. Take the throttle off their international gateway. ..buy more international bandwidth.

Sent from my Samsung S4

Some isps already have good international bandwidth, if you are ready to pay a good price.

Wont recommend their car washes , most of the dealers here put scratches on cars unless a really professional one.

So should we believe the same Israeli government and the same Israeli Pm who once said the same thing about the Iraqi nuclear problem and its threat to the entire world and now doing the same exact thing with Iran.

sounds familiar?

By stopping uranium enrichment capacity completely.

So should Israel

Continuous occupation and whatever is left of Palestine and still trying to build illegal settlements deemed by international communities such as EU and UN as occupied territory is illegal.

Not saying Israel does not have the right to exist it does but so does Palestine based on equal share of land. But what's left of Palestine and still trying to build illegal settlements on it?

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That's a new one. Based on an "equal" share of land. Where did that come from? I agree Palestinians deserve a state but given the long history of Arab wars determined at driving the Jews into the sea, I'd say if it is ever going to happen, they'll have to settle for something ... less. In other words, get real. Yes Israel has a strong military ... why is that ... because if they didn't there would be no Israel in that neighborhood, and everyone knows that.

Land share based on 1967 borders would be a good start.

Never going to happen. Why should Israel make peice with Hamas? If The palastinians want a country they can take Jordan which is 95% populated by palestinians anyway.

People like you are a big obstacle toward a peace deal and towards a viable two sovereign state solutions.

It is exactly because of people like you that we have not achieved a comprehensive peace deal that compromises as well as benefits both sides.

I hope future israeli leadership and palestinian leadership get cleansed out of people like you and we may be able to achieve an everlasting peace.

Wow, providing sources from uncredible sources such as wikipedia which anyone can edit and from anti Islamic websites doesn't make it a fact. I gave you a direct reference from the quran.

You are welcome to provide other sources to dispute it, but keep in mind reference to a mosque is not reference to a city

If city was as holy as you claiming it to be, you do not think it would be mentioned?

Yeah so the mosque is in east jerusalem and thats what muslims want.

Not only that but, arabs also lay their claim based on ancient prophets holy to all the three religion. So to say muslims do not have equal importance is wrong, it would be better to say jews,muslims and Christians have equal importance on their claim.

-snip-

Once peace is signed and they have proven to have full control of their people and genuinely want to live in peace side by side, they can return back and ask for East Jerusalem to be their capital,

But keep in mind, they need to prove they can live in peace and control the borders.

This is what a lot of the fighting is about.

East Jerusalem contains some of the holiest sites in the ME in the eyes of both Muslims and Jews. There is no hope that Israel will give it up. There is little hope that the Muslims will quit trying to get it.

"E. Jerusalem contains Jerusalem's Old City and some of the holiest sites of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, such as the Temple Mount, Western Wall, Al-Aqsa Mosque, and the Church of the Holy Sepulchre." LINK

There is now a Muslim temple on the temple site, and Jews and Christians believe it is the site of the Biblical temple where so many important events are said to have happened. Understanding that most Jews never accepted that Christ was the Messiah prophesied in their Old Testament, but many did and split off into Christianity, It is easy to see why Muslims, Jews and Christians all believe that this is one of their holiest sites.

One way or the other, Muslims, Jews and Christians all have the Old Testament in their religion, and this is the site of many sentinel events. (Muslims believe the Old Testament was tampered with and trust the Qur'an more.) All have E. Jerusalem and at least the temple site as holy and necessary.

Truth is Jerusalem has little meaning to Arabs from religious point of you, they prey facing Mecca, not only that Jerusalem is not directly mentioned by name in the Qur'an nor is it mentioned by its Arabic translation.

so its more of a point maker for Pals instead of its being a real meaning.

Its not truth, its your opinion i will give you a reference from Quran where its clearly mentioned.

Exalted is He who took His Servant by night from al-Masjid al-Haram (Mecca) to al-Masjid al- Aqsa, whose surroundings We have blessed, to show him of Our signs. Indeed, He is the Hearing, the Seeing.And We gave Moses the Scripture and made it a guidance for the Children of Israel that you not take other than Me as Disposer of affairs. Quran 17'1-2

Al masjid al Aqsa as you know is only in Jerusalem.

And before Muslims faced mecca, they used to face Jerusalem when they prayed, just shows how equally important Jerusalem is to Muslims as it is to Christians and Jews.

It is not MY opinion, but documented fact

After Mecca and Medina in Saudi Arabia, Jerusalem is considered the third holiest city in Islam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_significance_of_Jerusalem

http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2012/02/muslim-scholar-explains-why-jerusalem.html#.U7z_FZSSwrU

http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2012/02/claiming-jerusalem-is-in-the-koran

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/06/jerusalem-is-not-mentioned-in-the-koran-even-once-you-cant-rewrite-the-koran-on-air-on-al-jazeera

PS. al-masjid al-Aqsa is a mosque located in Jerusalem, it is not Jerusalem

Wow, providing sources from uncredible sources such as wikipedia which anyone can edit and from anti Islamic websites doesn't make it a fact. I gave you a direct reference from the quran.

-snip-

Once peace is signed and they have proven to have full control of their people and genuinely want to live in peace side by side, they can return back and ask for East Jerusalem to be their capital,

But keep in mind, they need to prove they can live in peace and control the borders.

This is what a lot of the fighting is about.

East Jerusalem contains some of the holiest sites in the ME in the eyes of both Muslims and Jews. There is no hope that Israel will give it up. There is little hope that the Muslims will quit trying to get it.

"E. Jerusalem contains Jerusalem's Old City and some of the holiest sites of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, such as the Temple Mount, Western Wall, Al-Aqsa Mosque, and the Church of the Holy Sepulchre." LINK

There is now a Muslim temple on the temple site, and Jews and Christians believe it is the site of the Biblical temple where so many important events are said to have happened. Understanding that most Jews never accepted that Christ was the Messiah prophesied in their Old Testament, but many did and split off into Christianity, It is easy to see why Muslims, Jews and Christians all believe that this is one of their holiest sites.

One way or the other, Muslims, Jews and Christians all have the Old Testament in their religion, and this is the site of many sentinel events. (Muslims believe the Old Testament was tampered with and trust the Qur'an more.) All have E. Jerusalem and at least the temple site as holy and necessary.

Truth is Jerusalem has little meaning to Arabs from religious point of you, they prey facing Mecca, not only that Jerusalem is not directly mentioned by name in the Qur'an nor is it mentioned by its Arabic translation.

so its more of a point maker for Pals instead of its being a real meaning.

Its not truth, its your opinion i will give you a reference from Quran where its clearly mentioned.

Exalted is He who took His Servant by night from al-Masjid al-Haram (Mecca) to al-Masjid al- Aqsa, whose surroundings We have blessed, to show him of Our signs. Indeed, He is the Hearing, the Seeing.And We gave Moses the Scripture and made it a guidance for the Children of Israel that you not take other than Me as Disposer of affairs. Quran 17'1-2

Al masjid al Aqsa as you know is only in Jerusalem.

And before Muslims faced mecca, they used to face Jerusalem when they prayed, just shows how equally important Jerusalem is to Muslims as it is to Christians and Jews.

If hamas did not stop the attacks then why is Israel continuing to build settlements in east jerusalem and other areas that are not controlled by hamas ? Settlement building in east jerusalem and other areas in which israel faces no danger from is not only condemned by US, EU and UN but also a blockade to a viable two state solution.

What does Hamas have to do with East Jerusalem? Has Jerusalem been moved to Gaza?

Hamas never stopped firing rockets, they occasionally slow down or have a few day breaks.

Hamas has not recognized Israel and has vowed to destroy Israel.

Hamas does not want peace with Israel,

Yes they continue to build and more arabs continue to move to Israel and live a productive life.

Does not mean i agree with more building, but it also does not mean i disagree.

The way i see it is, peace for land. There is no peace, there is no land.

You say Israel faces no danger? have you seen the latest news? In case you have not, the riots are in East Jerusalem.

Israel also pulled out of Gaza and did it provide security for Israel?

What i meant was, rockets are being fired from gaza which is controlled by hamas but israel is expanding settlements in areas that are not controlled by hamas but PA who prefer diplomacy over hamas policy of an eye for an eye.

Riots does not mean build more settlements. Abbas this time was serious for a peace deal backed by John kerry but we all know some hawks in the netanyahu's government do not want such peace deals.

Continuous occupation and whatever is left of Palestine and still trying to build illegal settlements deemed by international communities such as EU and UN as occupied territory is illegal.

Not saying Israel does not have the right to exist it does but so does Palestine based on equal share of land. But what's left of Palestine and still trying to build illegal settlements on it?

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That's a new one. Based on an "equal" share of land. Where did that come from? I agree Palestinians deserve a state but given the long history of Arab wars determined at driving the Jews into the sea, I'd say if it is ever going to happen, they'll have to settle for something ... less. In other words, get real. Yes Israel has a strong military ... why is that ... because if they didn't there would be no Israel in that neighborhood, and everyone knows that.

Land share based on 1967 borders would be a good start.

Israel did made an offer peace for land which was refused by all Arab states. Eventually Egypt signed peace treaty and got Sinnai back.

In case you have not noticed it takes 2 to tango, they missed their boat.

Would 2 million arabs with Israeli passport be willing to relocate? i seriously doubt it

Has Hamas stopped its attacks? No it has not.

Has PA changed its school education of hatred? No they have not.

Can not sit on 2 chairs with one tuhas

If hamas did not stop the attacks then why is Israel continuing to build settlements in east jerusalem and other areas that are not controlled by hamas ? Settlement building in east jerusalem and other areas in which israel faces no danger from is not only condemned by US, EU and UN but also a blockade to a viable two state solution.

Continuous occupation and whatever is left of Palestine and still trying to build illegal settlements deemed by international communities such as EU and UN as occupied territory is illegal.

Not saying Israel does not have the right to exist it does but so does Palestine based on equal share of land. But what's left of Palestine and still trying to build illegal settlements on it?

...

That's a new one. Based on an "equal" share of land. Where did that come from? I agree Palestinians deserve a state but given the long history of Arab wars determined at driving the Jews into the sea, I'd say if it is ever going to happen, they'll have to settle for something ... less. In other words, get real. Yes Israel has a strong military ... why is that ... because if they didn't there would be no Israel in that neighborhood, and everyone knows that.

Land share based on 1967 borders would be a good start.

I think there is no argument about that the violence must stop one way or the other. The argument is about how to reach that goal. in 2005 Israel withdrew from Gaza Strip unilaterally, hoping that it will be a step in the right direction. The outcome you can see today:Hamas (the equivalent of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood), won the elections, and is continuing to shoot rockets, kidnap Israeli citizens, and preach for terror.

The same thing concerning Lebanon, after Israel withdrew from it, Hizzbollah declared it wont stop fighting Israel until they will free all Palestine (whole Israel) from the Jews. The same with USA withdrawing from Iraq, just to get ISIS taking control...

The facts show that if you give up to terror and extremists, they just becomes stronger and in the end come back to attack you.

Then why do israel go occupy their neighbors ? Israel's occupation of south Lebanon was illegal under the international law and they were forced out by Hezbollah. Israel's current occupation of syrian golan heights is also illegal. Believe me when i say israel is much safer under syria ruled by assad's regime compared to the opposition. As for the US, they are siding with rebels in syria and siding with iraqi goverment against those same people fighting bashar in iraq

How does That work? Supplying both sides weapons? Remember iranian contra affair back in the days of iraq-iran war same thing is happening today.

Sigh.

Why do people continue to talk about "international law" when we are talking about sovereign nations which have every right to defend themselves? Screw international law. It's not working anywhere, especially for the the suckers who signed up for it. Islamic terrorists and some law, LOL?

After 15 years of attacks by Hezbollah from S. Lebanon on Israel, Israel set up a no man's land in Lebanon and defended that. Who can blame them?

Scott just asked us to stay on topic so I'll stop.

Do you even know what you are talking about? Rocket attacks into israel by hezbollah prior to the invasion since 15 years? Hezbollah didnt even exist that time. Hezbollah came into existence after the invasion.

The official israeli justification for invasion of south lebanon in 1982 at that time was an assassination attempt against israeli ambassador to uk which was heavily criticized by the international community.

You talk about a sovereign country defending itself? So do not the lebanese citizens have the right to defend itself against a foreign invasion? Just as much as american people had the right to defend itself from foreign occupation by britain?

Mohandis Gandhi said "an eye for an eye with only make the whole world blind"

Gandhi was dealing with the British. If he was leading protests against Stalin, Hitler or Arab extremists occupying his country, he would not have been around long enough to become famous.

I appreciate the context you provide however if you look at the endless cycle of retaliation and counter retaliation, etc etc there is wisdom in mr gandhi's words. The cycle either stops at some point or goes on forever. You should take a break and watch the video i posted as it comes from a prominent israeli jew war hero israeli general's son.

I think there is no argument about that the violence must stop one way or the other. The argument is about how to reach that goal. in 2005 Israel withdrew from Gaza Strip unilaterally, hoping that it will be a step in the right direction. The outcome you can see today:Hamas (the equivalent of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood), won the elections, and is continuing to shoot rockets, kidnap Israeli citizens, and preach for terror.

The same thing concerning Lebanon, after Israel withdrew from it, Hizzbollah declared it wont stop fighting Israel until they will free all Palestine (whole Israel) from the Jews. The same with USA withdrawing from Iraq, just to get ISIS taking control...

The facts show that if you give up to terror and extremists, they just becomes stronger and in the end come back to attack you.

Then why do israel go occupy their neighbors ? Israel's occupation of south Lebanon was illegal under the international law and they were forced out by Hezbollah. Israel's current occupation of syrian golan heights is also illegal. Believe me when i say israel is much safer under syria ruled by assad's regime compared to the opposition. As for the US, they are siding with rebels in syria and siding with iraqi goverment against those same people fighting bashar in iraq

How does That work? Supplying both sides weapons? Remember iranian contra affair back in the days of iraq-iran war same thing is happening today.

First of all i dont believe hamas has anything to do with it. Hamas whenever they indulge in such acts are proud of taking responsibility and they already said they don't have anything to do with it. Whoever the killers are of the three young boys they indulged in a very gruesome act and should be punished as much as the killers of the palestinian kid.

Test with cat against digital ocean singapore

Location sukhumvit, asok (bangkok)

PING www.digitalocean.com (198.41.189.27): 56 data bytes

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64 bytes from 198.41.189.27: seq=1 ttl=55 time=28.615 ms

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Between the instrument dials sits a 3D colour TFT screen that displays turn-by-turn navigation instructions, compass, fuel economy indicator and audio information. The customisable display also provides alerts, service reminders and more, in a variety of languages.

Under the bonnet resides either a 2.5 litre DOHC four-cylinder petrol or a 2.5 litre DOHC four-cylinder turbodiesel. The diesel engines turbocharger is electrically actuated, and there are two states of tune: 161 hp at 3,600 rpm and 403 Nm of twist at 2,000 rpm, and 188 hp and 450 Nm at the same revs. The engines are connected to either a six-speed manual or a seven-speed auto (!) with manual override.

Both engines are Euro 5 compliant, and Nissan says fuel economy has been improved by as much as 11% over the outgoing model. Underpinning the Nissan NP300 Navara is a high-strength chassis and leaf suspension. Smaller turning circle, too.

Shift-on-the-fly 4×4 driving can be engaged while the vehicle is in motion. The security guards comprise Vehicle Dynamic Control (VDC), Active Brake Limited Slip (ABLS), Hill Start Assist (HSA) and Hill Descent Control (HDC).

The Nissan NP300 Navara will be the first vehicle built at the companys new US$358 million plant in Samut Prakan near the capital, at a rate of about 75,000 units a year. This marks the end of Nissans joint venture with Mitsubishi Motors to produce pickup trucks at the latters plant at the Laem Chabang Industrial Estate in Chonburi, which will continue to build the outgoing Navara until export sales end.

Isn't this an English language forum?

Yeah, guess thai doesn't get well along with google translate.

Unofficial Spec

Nissan All New Navara Thai Spec.

เครื่อง มีพิกัดเดียว 2.5 ลิตร

ดูทรงแล้ว เดาได้เลยว่าเครื่องเดิม แต่ปรับปรุงใหม่

มี 2 ความแรง

ตัวท็อปจะแรงที่สุดในกลุ่ม 2.5 ลิตร ในเมืองไทย!!

แรงชนิดที่ Colorado 2.8 L กับ Ford / Mazda 3.2 L

อาจต้องหาผ้านวมมาห่มกันเลยทีเดียว!!

เกียร์...อัตโนมัติ 7 จังหวะ!!

ครั้งแรกในรถกระบะเมืองไทย!!!!!!!!

ออพชัน?

VDC Traction Control Hill Start Assist

ABS EBD มีมาครบครัน

ภายใน มาตรวัด สวย สองวงกลม มีจอ MID ภาษาไทย!!

และมีช่องแอร์ด้านหลังในรุ่น 4 ประตู!!!

ส่วน Navigation System เดาว่าน่าจะใช้

Navi ตัวเดียวกับ Sylphy / Pulsar ข้อนี้ไม่ยืนยัน

แต่เดาว่าต้องเป็นแบบนี้แน่ๆ...

เอาแค่นี้พอละกัน

ไม่อยากเผยหมด ไม่งั้นก็ไม่สนุก

เดากันต่อไป....หึหึหึ

Unofficial Spec

Nissan All New Navara Thai Spec.

The handset has a 2.5-liter single coordinate

View original had already guessed that. But renovation

A second strength

The laptop will be strongest in the 2.5-liter in Thailand!

The kind that Colorado 2.8 L with Ford / Mazda 3.2 L.

Duvet covers may need to do it!

Automatic transmission ... 7 strokes!

First truck Thailand!!

Oppenheimer slope?

VDC Traction Control Hill Start Assist

Comes equipped with ABS EBD

I have two circular gauges within the MID in Thailand!

And the air box back in the 4 door!

Presumed to use the Navigation System.

Navi the same Sylphy / Pulsar this not confirmed.

I guess this must be the place for ...

I just now well enough

I do not want to reveal Otherwise, it's not fun

Oh well .... guess next nissen.

Why so much fuss, just for 100 bucks?

Because they're not wealthy, work hard, and don't deserve to have 3000b stolen off them because they tried to buy a car through an official dealer but couldn't pass the finance. 3000 baht is probably a few days of work for them.

You leave your morals at the airport or something?

I believe couple of hundred bucks is not worth getting stressed out by going through all the fuss just to get a small refund back.