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All well and good, but the order authorizing the police to use live rounds against the peaceful protesters came from the PM, and that is where the responsibility ultimately lies.

I don't believe this has ever happened before in Thai history, the PM authorizing authorities to shoot with live rounds at peaceful protesters? Only 24 hours until retribution for her brutality is served.

Are you halucinating. Had mushrooms for breakfast.

I just read a severely one sided account of what is taking place. If Suthep gets the cuffs..who will take up the challenge. Another Democrat MP. Dems truly showing their colours what with Abhisit and Korn marching afront of the protestors and making all the right noises (that was until it went tits up). The Dems reputation is in tatters over this Suthep debacle and if another high profile Dem MP fronts this charade it will be the death knell of the party.

So I cannot see another high profile leader, known to the nation, who can lead this. Lets face it boys, go home this ones in the crapper

Why was everything okay for 50 years and now we have to have reform because Dems are not at the trough with their paymasters. No reason for this government to stand down. Measures can be put in place without replacing a democratically elected government. They've got maybe 2 years before the next election to get together on all sides. Something tells me Suthep knows hes not got 2 years to remove Thaksin.

Something tells me Suthep knows hes not got 2 years to remove Thaksin.

I thought Thaksin was removed 7 years ago.

If he had truly been removed why is Suthep frothing like a rabid dog when he mentions the name Thaksin. The governments of the world know who is in charge of Thailand. I actually get great enjoyment watching Suthep. I want to whisper in his ear and tell him its a lost cause but then I would loose my fun

The EC only found Newins lot guilty of vote buying and Thaksin had cut him adrift for his disloyalty by joining the army coalition under Abhisit

2 arrest warrants and the old fool is still out there gearing up the remaining "protestors" for further assaults on gov buildings etc.

Lighting the fuse to further violence and disruption.Most, all? other countries he would either already be in custody or more likely no longer around to cause the problems.

The gov should have the balls to carry out the warrants on him and his senior cronies and then deal peacefully with the remaining headless protestors.

2 arrest warrants, thats nothing. His outspoken mate Sondhi has been sentenced to over 20 years and hes still doing TV appearances (admittedly hes been off air since the trouble started...does not want to be seen breaking the conditions of his bail)

Why was everything okay for 50 years and now we have to have reform because Dems are not at the trough with their paymasters. No reason for this government to stand down. Measures can be put in place without replacing a democratically elected government. They've got maybe 2 years before the next election to get together on all sides. Something tells me Suthep knows hes not got 2 years to remove Thaksin.

I seem to remember Abhisit giving 2000 baht to all taxpayers before the last election. Just happened to be mostly Democrat supporters who pay tax...or so he thought

Just seen a video on youtube of a bunch of reds being escorted by police in riot gear. The reds were clearly waving huge sticks and metal bars.... So there it is, the police are actually assisting the violence against the students.

its BS if you dont post the link...please post the link or are you just a johnny know nothing wind up merchant

Yinglucks support is on the wane

Powerful picture, it sums it all.

The best answer to the yellow disillusioned terrorist on this forum, hat offs

Wow .. That must be costing a lot of baht!

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Some get a few baht others get free meals

Well if Sooty and Sweep did not give the orders who did. The army answers to the government of the day. The government gives the ok after consulting with army chiefs before any action is taken. That government was run by Abhisit and Suthep in charge of the CRES

But the DSI case is based on the presumption that they were acting as individuals, not as members of the government.

Even someone as thick as you realises that is a farcical presumption, but it is needed because as office holders they are immune from prosecution.

You will be allowed to insult on here because you talk sponsor beliefs. Try this...just drop the 'J' from your name and reveal your true identity

To diamond king and all other that think all is white and black.

Is it so easy to forget is it not..

I was there when the red was demonstration in the streets, THEY WHERE fuc_kING BAD, they ask me to open my car, want to look into my car like I have something to hide, the red suddenly get the power to stop cars on the road and look in it… nice system the red can do what they want if they want.. no police, nothing, even in middle of the demonstration next day, 10-12 reds was waking with guns, with heavy guns, NOBODY DID ANYTHING.. that was ok…….what a joke…

Then I reject, then they scratch my car, and make a lot of hit to it, and try to turn it around, then I get out, the police come and they laugh and say I better leave the place..

So what shall I do ? shoot them like the red did today because demonstration try to stop red to come into the stadium..

So is it now legal to shoot people on the streets if you get attach, that was new to me..

Is it a democratic election hmmmm do any of you know what that is?, go to the local village with a money car and tell all they get money if they give vote to the red side. Or if you join your village gets money to be better if the whole village votes on the red.

That is called money democratic.

And it is so nice to have an PM brother that have stop tax on mobile company and just 2 week later sell his mobile company and off cause he not need to pay taxes… why shall he the law say he not need to.

Then easy to give 50 bath hospital and a cow to the farmer.. what a bonus.

Ohh yes and then he order 1000s of thai to be shot in drug war.. all forgotten ? tsk tsk......

Is that democratic ?, is it democratic, that the PMs brother that are convicted by high Court, an criminal shall be hear what to do for Thailand in future, try to make law so he do not need to go to jail… haha, what a joke, Thailand are kids in politic, nobody do anything for the country it is take yourself table.

Rice schema, water plans, all sucks, and all total out of control, total Chaos, PM that think it is nice to send her son to piano lessons, just 1 lesson is 1 month salary for the farmer, and my nice husband stand by my side, she say, to help me when I am busy, he take care of the house and my "15 different offshore account where I hide my Money", because I do not trust my brother to take care of the money offshore.. Who knows one day they gone…

The red are MUCH MUCH worse in there time, then the demonstration are today, but off cause the little reds are sitting in there caves and say ohhh they so bad... ohhhhh..

TIME FORGET ALL DO IT NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are too stupid diamond and all other that cannot see this is leading to chaos with a system like it is today, and to claim it is done by people choose.. YES MONEY TALK FRIENDS….but it has nothing to do with democratic, so stop use that word <deleted>..

You'll have me reaching for the tissues..absolutely no facts in that

All this arguing about who fired the first shot is getting childish now anyway.

Irrelevant of who cast the first stone. There is one clear culprit here and he isn't even in Thailand. He has deliberately divided the country right down the middle, and he does have a very vested interest in a civil war in Thailand.

Even if the army did come out, and regardless of who's side they will take, this situation has come to a head, and it is clearly pro vs anti government.

This could well be the first day of a civil war that can spread nationwide with the protests being held all over the place. We can expect to see this mirrored all over the country in every town and city now that the red shirts believe they have tipped the balance in their favour with the police and the belief that the army is also on their side. I doubt they will stop now. They have tasted blood and we all know that they love the taste of blood.

Every civil war starts with a single shot, and that has now been dealt. There is no doubt that forces are now at work to plan the counter attack.

This is no longer about reds V army as seen in 2010, this is about reds v dem supporters.

And if the army supports the incumbent government who do you think will win.... and who do you think will be running for their private jets

Check out the guy in a red shirt....more peaceloving tree hugger protestors giving a slap to a government supporter

Peaceful protestors wrecking a bus

Well if Sooty and Sweep did not give the orders who did. The army answers to the government of the day. The government gives the ok after consulting with army chiefs before any action is taken. That government was run by Abhisit and Suthep in charge of the CRES

I shouldn't respond since you are not using the names of the people involved .... but

What government of the day did the army answer to in 2006?

Since Abhist and Suthep are being charged as common citizens and not as political office holders there is no case against them as you will see on the 12th (not the 20th)

The army answered to their paymasters after a few phone calls from the go between...the coup master himself, who Thaksin tried to have arrested on the night of the coup.

Yinglucks support is on the wane

The army will not turn out for a coup... they are in Thaksins pocket now. Your chosen side has assasinated many innocent people before...so a couple more what prick your conscience. Very vociferous for your first 2 posts. Surprised you have not posted before...

Please give evidence where anyone but the reds or the army have killed people since say ... 2009?

The army killed on the instruction of the government of the day. Abhisit 2010 (only if you believe he was the leader and not just a puppet)

Again, please hand your evidence to the DSI. They really need it.

The orders will have been put in writing and many people will have a copy. Nobody is going to instuct his soldiers to shoot to kill without the orders in his back pocket. It will come out at the trial...Over to you

This is exactly what this grub Suthep is trying to do . He does not give a stuff if one of his sheep gets shot, just as long as he can get a dead body to use for his defense on the 20th. He has "upped the anti" hoping to get a dead body so that he can say that Yingluck is a murderer like himself and Abisit.

Well he's got that now, so you're implying that they can all go home and get on with life?

You're havin' a laugh...

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One colour shooting another is not the fault of Yingluck as she has given no orders to use live ammo or shoot protestors. Where as Abhisit and Suthep did

All those of you who know which orders AV and ST gave should really bring your info and evidence to the DSI. They might even give you a reward :-)

Well if Sooty and Sweep did not give the orders who did. The army answers to the government of the day. The government gives the ok after consulting with army chiefs before any action is taken. That government was run by Abhisit and Suthep in charge of the CRES

The army will not turn out for a coup... they are in Thaksins pocket now. Your chosen side has assasinated many innocent people before...so a couple more what prick your conscience. Very vociferous for your first 2 posts. Surprised you have not posted before...

Please give evidence where anyone but the reds or the army have killed people since say ... 2009?

The army killed on the instruction of the government of the day. Abhisit 2010 (only if you believe he was the leader and not just a puppet)

This is exactly what this grub Suthep is trying to do . He does not give a stuff if one of his sheep gets shot, just as long as he can get a dead body to use for his defense on the 20th. He has "upped the anti" hoping to get a dead body so that he can say that Yingluck is a murderer like himself and Abisit.

Well he's got that now, so you're implying that they can all go home and get on with life?

You're havin' a laugh...

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One colour shooting another is not the fault of Yingluck as she has given no orders to use live ammo or shoot protestors. Where as Abhisit and Suthep did

You're right! I remember the headline: "Abhisit orders military to use live rounds and shoot protestors"

As head of the government Abhisit gave the orders to allow the army to have 'live fire zones' and snipers and shoot to kill. Or did the army take instruction from an invisible hand..you cant be that clueless

Try watching the NEWS worldwide (BBC CNN) ALL REPORTING Anto government demonstrators ATTACK RED SHIRT BUS

The bus that had the windows broken was a CITY bus with a few red shirts on it ... that may be only a semantic distinction but it is valid.

That there were 2 students attacked first by Reds kinda makes a world of difference though it does not excuse the students' behavior afterwards.

To lay this on the entire anti-govt side is specious at best and simply trolling at worst.

Strangely, your version of events, so clearly articulated, is contradicted by every reputable news service covering this story, local and international. You simply make it up as you go along.

Dont expect impartial coverage of any political event on here...its a bit like the Champions League...the sponsors run the show

The police need to come under intense criticism for these events today. They have shielded the heavily armed red militia, and done absolutely nothing to stop the running battles. They are one sided, biased and nothing more than an extension of Thaksin's iron fist.

It is the police and their one sided conduct that will eventually bring the army out to protect the people.... DO NOT underestimate the army.

Oh.. and you can now forget any celebrations on the 5th. That day will probably be marked with an ongoing civil war stirred up by Jutaporn and Thida.

I dearly hope they will be taken out for good.... call in the snipers. Are their any good vantage points overlooking the stadium?

The army will not turn out for a coup... they are in Thaksins pocket now. Your chosen side has assasinated many innocent people before...so a couple more what prick your conscience. Very vociferous for your first 2 posts. Surprised you have not posted before...

This is exactly what this grub Suthep is trying to do . He does not give a stuff if one of his sheep gets shot, just as long as he can get a dead body to use for his defense on the 20th. He has "upped the anti" hoping to get a dead body so that he can say that Yingluck is a murderer like himself and Abisit.

Well he's got that now, so you're implying that they can all go home and get on with life?

You're havin' a laugh...

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One colour shooting another is not the fault of Yingluck as she has given no orders to use live ammo or shoot protestors. Where as Abhisit and Suthep did

Here is a video with a lot more credibility than half of the jumped up idiot red ass kisser BS on here at the moment.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=162834060593108

0.20 in the video man/woman or whatever it is... clearly heard shouting, get your red shirts off and put your black shirts on.

approx 1.40 can clearly be heard saying they have guns, don't bother with it. Intimating to the red shirts.

The video clearly starts with the red terrorists retreating to the safety of their police protectors towards the stadium, followed by students. Then shots are heard from the stadium end and the students flee back towards their end pursued by the gun wielding red maniacs.

In my mind it is clear. These reds are being paid to do this, the police will in the end conclude that the shots were fired by students.... blah blah blah.

I find it strange that when riots start there is always new members who come in support of the dems/yellows. It happened back in April 2010