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backtonormal

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  1. The more ones reads and hears the utterances from Yingluck the more I am convinced that she is resident in a parallel universe as well as being a born again liar.

    She hasn't the intelligence to see what is blowing up in the upcoming storm that she and her puppet government have created at the behest of her puppet master brother.

    Yingluck if as she claims, ''loves the country,'' she would have kicked her brother into touch a long while back and now she would take the final step and dissolve parliament.

    If she and her fellow members of the P.T.P. and the coalition parties are so confident of their popularity with the electorate why won't she dissolve parliament?

    Presumably the main reason is that the dividends have not yet to be paid in full on all of the assorted scams schemes that have been mooted and in one infamous pledging case even initiated so as the monies are released, much like the funds being released but yet failing to relieve the flooding problem.

    Other scams schemes are still awaiting fund allocations, once those funds have been allocated and dispersed to the commission agents we may well see a dissolution of parliament as the country will be diabolically financially handicapped due to this puppet government and the puppet masters insatiable demand for money to finance and foment strife and of course supply the stipend payments to the minions.

    Sadly the captain of the Thaitanic will not be going down with the financial and civil disorder that will wreck the ship, the captain and crew will all be safely away in their lifeboats whilst the women and children, the Thai people try to grasp at the flotsam of the wreckage in their struggle to survive the shipwreck.

    Opinions are what makes threads but ask your script writer to chuck in a few checkable facts

  2. The Suthep mob dont want another election because they know they cant win. They want a royally elected council to run Thailand. We can hazard a guess who will be sitting on that. Suthep has been paid to help the elites return this country to the dark ages , where the poor know there place but those elites will still be making billions of dollars without having to interact with the rest of the world. ASEAN is a pipe dream and the elites need to stop Thailands participation.

    Yet another one having a love affair with the word "elites". What do you call the Shinawatras and all the Bentley, Mercedes, Ferrari and BMW driving PTP members ? Up country country bumpkins ?

    Do yourself a big favor and stop copying and pasting other peoples' comments. Try to come up with something original for once.

    I can go one better than elites, what about amart or even better I can point you to a link that actually names some of these so called elites but you would still be in denial. I could say the fight is between new money and old money . That may be true but the biggest worry for the 'faceless financiers of democracy disruption' is an event that will happen in the future...nobody knows when but some online reports are suggesting that Thaksin will become untouchable. So he has always been the focus of all demonstrations because they are scared witless of the future....you work it out

  3. Jatuporn seems ignorant of Thai history. He should not underestimate Thai students when they are politically motivated. It was Ramkhamhaeng students that caused the final blow off in the 1992 political crisis by barricading themselves in their campus and refusing to back down even when the army moved tanks into position in front of them. They clearly would have stood their ground and been slaughtered, if the King hadn't intervened that night. In 1976 Thammasat students stood up to the military and were shot, beaten to death, raped and hanged, while the survivors fled to the jungles to save their lives. In 1973 Thai students fought on in the face of helicopter gunships and fought heavily armed police until all were dead.

    Thai students have been sleeping politically for over 20 years but now they are awake and will not go back to sleep easily. They will fight for proper democracy that forces elected representatives to respect the rule of law because it is for their future.

    Jatuporn, Nattuwut, Veera and all the other paid Southern lackeys leading the red shirts should take a reality check by visiting their native South and find out how much they are really loved by their own people down there.

    Those students were fighting the royalist elites, the Red Gaur, village scouts and the army bullies,,,a little like the Yingluck government. Paid for technical students at todays protest wont have the heart to tangle with some of these farmer boys

  4. Thailand desperately needs a strong, educated and non-corruptable leader, which after seeing the interview it is quite obvious that she doesn't fit the right profile to lead the country. Thailand deserves better, and perhaps calling an early election would be a wise choice.

    The Suthep mob dont want another election because they know they cant win. They want a royally elected council to run Thailand. We can hazard a guess who will be sitting on that. Suthep has been paid to help the elites return this country to the dark ages , where the poor know there place but those elites will still be making billions of dollars without having to interact with the rest of the world. ASEAN is a pipe dream and the elites need to stop Thailands participation.

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  5. Achievements: presiding over a govt that has become the most despised in recent memory, tearing the country apart.

    She loves democracy above all: but turns a blind eye to a shocking amnesty bill

    Is in charge: by Thaksin pops up with comments almost weekly that mirror the decisions of the govt

    Get out of here you imbecile, you take us for fools.

    I can only attribute it to selective memory loss. You forgot Abhisit and Suthep who ordered the murder of many innocent people. They weren't, aren't and never will be popular (except by their faceless paymasters)

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  6. If Yingluck really wants to be judged by her achievements....

    Then she really MUST GO!

    All her 'achievements' as she puts it, are all well and truly in the negative and a threat to the entire nation and its economy.

    Everything that is in the positive side of the balance sheet are all the achievements (as usual) of the 'Elite' The very people who are allegedly despised by Yingluck and all her voters.

    Yingluck...... Stop trying to steal credit from the achievements of your sworn enemies.

    Please enligthen me with links to the 'elite' achievements under this government. Who got all the major car companies to commit to making 1000's of jobs in the next decade...even after all that flooding

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  7. Protesters are demanding the end of the "Thaksin regime" and want to replace the government with an unelected "people's council".

    So the "ten thousand or so" protestors will decide among themselves as to exactly WHO will be on the UNELECTED "people's council"....bunch of THUGS who have zero respect for the FACT that millions of voters have spoken loud and clear.

    Hate Taksin all you want but if you want to replace his sister then run your candidates in the elections and let the people decide. Otherwise this idiotic cycle of elections followed by demonstrations and coups will never end.

    Have they gone completely public with this peoples council idea?

    I think I'd prefer a coup to be honest. A bunch of right wing nut jobs trying to convince us that this is the natural order of things hardly appeals. Listening to a bunch of decrepit cronies spouting off about getting rid of corruption while they drive away in their mercs is even less appealing.

    At least the army knows they don't want to be in power forever.

    Stay in power long enough to fill their pockets, change the constitution to free themselves from treason, destroy world confidence in Thailand, run the country back 20 years for their paymasters etc etc

  8. So what happens when they kick them out. Then get voted back in? I just don't get it.

    The idea is to kick them out and then change the whole process to make the system of politics more democratic and uncorruptable so the likes of Thaksin can not interfere with politics. To eradicate vote buying and populist policies, and install more rigorous checks and balances.

    Then whoever gets voted in, it will be the democratic way.... They are trying to repair the laughable system of politics basically.

    Don't be so sure about PTP getting back in that easily. With no vote buying or populist policies.

    Wasn't this 'supposed' to happen in 2006 when the military drafted constitution was adopted? What happened?

    I am a bit amazed that the Democratic party thinks that it can legitimately regain power after a landslide PTP victory. Talk as you may about vote buying and populist policies, it happens across the board by all political parties. One last thought, I thought the Democratic party was supposed to be the 'people's' party? Why did it take a PTP victory to pass important social legislation like an increase in the minimum wage and an increase for government workers with college degrees? If these measures are so repugnant, may the government workers should return their salary increases as a form of protest!

    Why do you think receiving 48% of the votes cast, in an election where approx 75% of the electorate actually voted is a landslide ? Think about this carefully. 48% is less than half. 25% of the people didn't vote, many of which were opposition voters who boycotted the election.

    How do you equate this to a "landslide PTP victory" ? Madame PM/DM often uses the expression coupled with "absolute majority".

    Who was it said, "tell the people a big lie enough times and they will believe it". Think it was a A. Hitler.

    A minority of people voted for PTP. But it was the largest minority. See the difference ?

    100 more seats than the democrats without the coalition now thats what I would call being rogerred in the poop pipe by a chutney ferret. Butt F....d

  9. Why not confiscate Thaksin's and Pojman's assets; ban him from political activity for (10) years, and let him return home. After all, he was removed from office by extra-constitutional means. Richard Nixon was a crook, but be was forced out of office by legal pressure, not a by coup d'etat.

    Why was Thaksin removed from office by extra-constitutional means? He formally resigned from office, left, came back and tried to hang on to power illegally. The army acted as "security" and made sure he left the building. The police were too inept or corrupt.

    PTP love to refer to the "coup" and "Thaksin being removed from office". The facts are different ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but hey, don't let that stop you.

    I do agree on confiscating his assets, and revoking his illegally issued passport, and issuing an warrant for his arrest via Interpol. The problem seems to be that common criminals are treated differently when they happen to be billionaires. regardless how the money was made.

    Interpol never issued an arrest warrant for Thaksin because they could not stop laughing at the request long enough to hold a pen

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  10. I find this press report offensive. Thaksin is not a Monarch and will never be so.

    Thailand doesn't have a regime it has a widely respected Government.

    Nice try, respected by whom, a minority of Thai people many who have been paid to do so.

    Further, the respect seems to be diminishing daily as more and more of those who professed to respect the government are waking up to the fact they have been conned.

    Totally agree - in Ubon, Surin, Khoen kahn, Korat people are mobilising and demonstrating including disaffected "red shirts" who have woken up to the fact that they have been conned with , amongst other things, the promises made by the rice scheme.

    Edit: this is red shirt heart land

    Any first hand news on the activity in isaan?

    First hand as in 10 minutes ago...anti government rally at Beung KaenNakorn.. one microphone and 40 listening...nothing changed in Isaan...Thaksin is still the boy

  11. Protests will continue until Thaksin regime is out

    Think they got a long wait then.

    The Regime as you put it ...is going nowhere. Thaksin has bigger fish to fry than being Prime Minister and if Suthep and his rent a mob dont stop him it will be the end game for many of the old power players in Thailand. The same power players who are financially backing this rally. This is not about this government record on corruption , its about stopping Thaksin from getting into the hot seat.

  12. "However, anti-government protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban has made it clear that the protest's ultimate goal is the downfall of the "Thaksin regime" and its replacement with a "people's council"

    Now we are getting near the truth. Why are certain people so scared of Thaksin. Maybe its the position they believe he will hold in the future. If that happens its end game for Suthep and his mates

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  13. This is a man who transferred public land to his rich friends in Phuket and later concealed his own assets and now wants to halt corruption with his own appointed administration.

    This is some Thai soap right?

    Land in Phuket .....beatdeadhorse.gif.pagespeed.ce.adWp7jUAu

    Suthep was the MP that caught the illegal land thief. Chuan was the PM, not Suthep. Go blame Chuan and not Suthep.

    Suthep was the Agricultural Minister that was why he was the one responsible for handing out the titles. Chuan dissolved the house to avoid the inevitable loss of the no confidence vote. The Dems have not won a General Election since.

    Cant be true winchester. There was no corruption before Thaksin. whistling.gif or so a lot on here would have you believe. Suthep wants Thaksin out but does not want another election because he knows the PTP popularity dwarfs a few 'rent a mob geriatric terrorists' and they will walk all elections for at least the next decade. He wants a people government most probably chosen by his mates. I think what hes really worried about is Thaksin getting his 'slate wiped clean' without an amnesty.

  14. Update: The New York Times has a useful account of the court’s decisions, quoting one of the judges:

    Supot Kaimook, one of the nine judges of the Constitutional Court, said in the court’s decision Wednesday that the rights of the minority were being trampled.

    “Thailand’s democratic system allows the majority to set the standard,” he wrote. “But once it uses its power arbitrarily and suppresses the minority without listening to reason, this makes the majority lose its legitimacy.”

    He said the system could no longer be called “democratic” when the majority acted this way. “It results in the tyranny of the majority,” he said.

    This is the mantra of the Democrat Party, which loses elections with such regularity that it appears to use a political laxative, and supports the views of anti-democratic protesters who see their rich and privileges selves as a “minority.” The Times added:

    So the article really says what you wrote in the last sentence? .Let's see:

    "The Democrat Party, which for years lived by a mantra that political disputes should stay inside Parliament, has this year taken to the streets. The party won a victory earlier this month when the government withdrew a wide-ranging amnesty bill that would have eased Mr. Thaksin’s return to Thailand"

    Nope, it doesn't. Making up lies and attribuuting false quotes to a newspaper. Isn't that against the forum rules, as well as being illegal? Really, have you people got nothing worth saying that's the truth? Obviously not. What a bunch of losers.

    That is a quote from the New York Times, copied and pasted. Its obvious your another who gets his information from limited sources,

  15. Thaksin will have them on the street off the street, on the street, off the street. Thaksin is too smart a cookie to worry about suthep. Now resigned and no protestors to talk too. Backfired that did.

    Aww.. That's cute.. Did they teach that to you when you undertook Political Science at Shinawatra University?

    Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

    My boy my views have been born from years in Thailand and a will to search out the other story not just the crap you get from a press dominated, TV and ink, by the very same people who are currently financing the anti government protests. Check your internet sources its free then come back with with a comment , not Shinawatra University, that does not show up your inadequeces when coming to terms with the current situation in Thailand

  16. Update: The New York Times has a useful account of the court’s decisions, quoting one of the judges:

    Supot Kaimook, one of the nine judges of the Constitutional Court, said in the court’s decision Wednesday that the rights of the minority were being trampled.

    “Thailand’s democratic system allows the majority to set the standard,” he wrote. “But once it uses its power arbitrarily and suppresses the minority without listening to reason, this makes the majority lose its legitimacy.”

    He said the system could no longer be called “democratic” when the majority acted this way. “It results in the tyranny of the majority,” he said.

    This is the mantra of the Democrat Party, which loses elections with such regularity that it appears to use a political laxative, and supports the views of anti-democratic protesters who see their rich and privileges selves as a “minority.” The Times added:

    The outcome of the Constitutional Court’s (close) ruling yesterday is that the court has essentially ruled that changing a basic law that came from an illegal act is out of the question.

    The 2007 constitution resulted from an illegal action by a military junta that overthrew an elected government and a widely-accepted constitution. It replaced it with a constitution drawn up by the junta’s hand-picked committee that was tutored by the junta and its unelected government. One of the reversions to type in that junta constitution was creating a Senate that could be controlled by palace-associated conservatives. That control came through appointed members and meant that opposition plus senators were likely to prevent popular change to law and the elite’s state.

    Those unelected senators are essentially appointed by panels of judges, creating an inherent conflict of interest when this conservative and undemocratic aspect of the constitution is challenged.

  17. Update: The New York Times has a useful account of the court’s decisions, quoting one of the judges:

    Supot Kaimook, one of the nine judges of the Constitutional Court, said in the court’s decision Wednesday that the rights of the minority were being trampled.

    “Thailand’s democratic system allows the majority to set the standard,” he wrote. “But once it uses its power arbitrarily and suppresses the minority without listening to reason, this makes the majority lose its legitimacy.”

    He said the system could no longer be called “democratic” when the majority acted this way. “It results in the tyranny of the majority,” he said.

    This is the mantra of the Democrat Party, which loses elections with such regularity that it appears to use a political laxative, and supports the views of anti-democratic protesters who see their rich and privileges selves as a “minority.” The Times added:

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  18. The protest will most probably be over at the end of this month. Dems and public should be happy because they have achieved A LOT the last 4 weeks.

    Well done!

    They've achieved exactly what Thaksin wanted to give them. Nothing to rant and rent a mob for... so go home and wait until the next election if you want to change things. Silly me Dems are totally unelectable for the last 25 years even with an evil despot up against them. 4 election victories for thisThaksin chappy tells you the feeling of the Thai nation.

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