Bandersnatch

If you knew anything about EVs in Thailand you would know that EVs didn’t get sold in any volume here until 2019. BYDs come with an 8 year 70% battery warranty.

This discussion is about BYD - see the title. As I previously posted BYD's LFP batteries aren't toxic (see the link I posted) My replies to you all have links supporting my assertions - you on the other hand are flying "Link-Free"

You already been proved wrong saying the BYDs batteries are toxic and now you claim that recycling is only done "because it is easy to do so" recycling happens because it's economic to do so. I never claimed EV batteries are easy to recycle in fact they tend to be used in second life applications first but EV recycling is happening despite you claiming it's too difficult to do. "EV Battery Recycling Is on the Rise Globally, EV battery recycling capacity is expanding. Battery cell manufacturers are building recycling facilities on-site or close-to-site. Independent recyclers are starting to invest in their own Li-Ion battery recycling plants. Over the past two years alone, more than 20 companies in the automotive and recycling sectors have announced plans for new partnerships" https://www.bcg.com/publications/2023/striking-gold-with-ev-battery-recycling

Every wondered what happens to the Lead in the Battery of an ICE car? If you didn't know Lead is very toxic "Lead is a naturally occurring toxic metal found in the Earth's crust. Its widespread use has resulted in extensive environmental contamination" https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/lead-poisoning-and-health BYDs use LiFePO4 in their batteries "LiFePO4 batteries are non-toxic, non-contaminating and contain no rare earth metals, making them an environmentally conscious choice" https://www.relionbattery.com/knowledge/how-are-lifepo4-batteries-safer-than-other-lithium-batteries#:~:text=If you're selecting a,them an environmentally conscious choice. "when the batteries run down, 99 percent of this lead is recycled to make new batteries" https://e360.yale.edu/features/getting-the-lead-out-why-battery-recycling-is-a-global-health-hazard#:~:text=An estimated 85 percent of,recycled to make new batteries. Price for Lead: 2,200 USD/MT Price for Lithium 15,500 USD/MT 99% of the lead in Lead acid batteries is recycled, but you think that Li which is worth 7xs as much is sent to landfill

I’ve owned a BYD Seal AWD Performance here in Thailand since November last year and love the car. For some balance here is one of my videos

Might have to splash out ฿200 for new one in a couple of years

Did you read the report you referenced? ”Featuring heat pumps, cabin overheat protection, and “dog mode” — a function that safeguards interior temperature for pets when owners are away — Tesla’s maintain cool cabin interiors with minimal impact on battery range” The BYD Seal features heat pump for cabin and battery cooling. ”Indeed, EV in-cabin AC only minimally impacts range, especially compared to the high-energy demands of winter heating” The title of this discussion is “BYD Seal tips, tricks and help” and the majority of the posters here own BYD Seals or other BYDs here in Thailand. Most EV owners would admit that the claimed range, as with all cars, is a bit optimistic, but for BYD Seal owners posting on this discussion the experience is the actual range in Thailand is pretty close to the claimed range.

BYD Seal Performance 1,000km challenge. If you don’t want to watch the whole video, then watch the last 5 minutes He did admit that the thumbnail was clickbait! There was some “rapidgating” down to 100kW from a max of 150kW but he said that most people probably wouldn’t notice. Only 5 minutes behind the Model 3 LR on a 1,000km trip is nothing to be concerned about in my opinion, particularly as a Model 3 LR in white with alloys is ฿500,000 more that a Seal Performance in Thailand I don’t rapid charge enough to comment.

I started this discussion over 2 years and 7,000 posts ago. My intention was to try and help people considering an EV in Thailand to distinguish the facts from the fiction. Most of the contributions have been helpful and supportive from the growing number of EV owners on the forum, however there have been a vocal minority of EV haters who feel that their uninformed opinions are more important that the facts. So I want to share a little book of EV Myths written by ex Top Gear presenter Quentin Willson: https://www.faircharge.co.uk/little-book-of-ev-myths

You have joined a discussion about Electric Vehicles in Thailand and your contribution is a link to instagram page of an EV hating vet in the UK quoting another EV hater quoting an EVs terms and conditions that he clearly doesn’t understand and you describe this twaddle as “interesting vid”

That’s exactly what I did. I have had solar for 7 years and EVs for over 3 years. It took me that long to persuade the EV dealers in Thailand that I could charge an EV just from solar. I don’t have a meter so I don’t get electric bills and I power 2 EVs and an electric motor bike 100% from my home solar. My latest EV has bi-directional charging so that gives me more backup power for the house

The Thai month abbreviations didn’t get translated very well. So here they are in Thai

Interesting to compare BYD+Tesla sales in May for Australia and Thailand “Tesla faces strong competition in Australia from Chinese manufacturer BYD which set a record in May with the sale of 1914 vehicles, compared to Tesla’s 3567 cars” https://thedriven.io/2024/06/17/china-versus-tesla-why-australia-is-enjoying-an-electric-vehicle-price-war/ BYD Thai 1,958 Aus 1,914 Tesla Thai 384 Aus 3,567

Dolphin Day!

There was a fire at a Petrol station in Surin this week, one of the few that didn’t have any EV charging! I drove past it yesterday and it was totally gutted. The sooner they are replaced by clean safe EV charging stations the better. Thailand has some of the worst air pollution in the world they should seriously consider Ultra Low Emission Zones for city centers with financial incentives to help people dump the pump.

I drove a Fomm one at the BKK Motor in 2019. At the time I thought it was a lot of car for the money, particularly as it’s also a boat. In recent years there has been increased competition in the sub ฿500,000 EV market.

In my case กบ is my wife’s nickname. Paid only ฿19k as 4 is not a popular (lucky) number.

Lucky plates in BKK are bit more expensive than Surin 🫣

Seal number plate holder. The standard number plate holder is grey - there is no grey on the car unless you have a grey car and it definitely doesn’t match my white one. The screws holding it together are already rusty and the BYD REVER logo is already fading badly. There are 4 captive nuts built into the car which is great but only 2 bolts are used on each plate supplemented with some double sided tape at the bottom! Will be ordering 4 more bolts from BYD. I replaced the holders with white ones to match the car and they have a perspex sheet to protect the number pate from damage.

Ignoring the nonsense is the way to go IMHO

Saw your post and jumped in the car. No little bell 🔔 icon saying there was an update. Checked for update and it did the usual check for update and back to check for update screen. Was about to give up when noticed 🔔 had appeared @UWEB thanks for posting

Being able to offer finance is a great way to get a sale on a second hand item. I had a condo for sale @ ฿7m and the agent told me it was too expensive for most buyers. A couple of weeks later he was showing a guy with ฿3.5m condos that he didn’t like then he showed him mine and explained that ฿3.5m was 50% deposit with 5 years interest free on the balance. He agreed to buy it on the spot. I would be happy to offer financing when selling a car, my lawyer already has a template contract he could adapt.

https://www.nationthailand.com/business/automobile/40038515#

Why do Toyota ice cars in Thailand come with automatic fire suppression devices? I have never seen them included with EVs here perhaps they are not required? RPReplay_Final1718000475.mov

Prior to giving my meter back PEA changed it 5 times thinking it was broken due to the fact that it wasn’t moving. When I installed solar 7 years ago the main PEA office in my province had no experience with Solar but they were so convinced I was trying to spin my meter backwards (to the exact same reading every month) that they called in the solar team from PEA Korat to inspect my system. I have had 3 inspections over the years. At each meeting I requested a digital meter but it was never installed I now use my EV instead of PEA as a just in case backup.