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Tesla doesn’t have much history of reducing prices here in Thailand. In the first year they were available here with price cuts going on around the world Tesla only reduced prices once, a week after the release of the BYD Seal It wasn’t enough to stop the Seal quickly outselling the model 3.

Wonder how many EV Owners you would find hanging out on the Hilux v Hilander debate thread with nothing better to do with their time? Anyway back on topic BYD tests EVBus in Thailand for the first time. Pick up-send to Thonglor for free! Until the end of May. . Provide free pick-up and drop service in Thonglo district by electric bus covering several important routes and areas such as Thonglo Port, Watthana District Office, Thonglo Municipal Police Station, Chameleon Hospital, Home Place Building, J Avenue Project, Tops Food Hall March Thonglo and BTS tram Thonglo Station from 06.00 - 21.00 hrs. between 1 - 30 April 2567 . https://autolifethailand.tv/byd-b70-ev-bus/ . “I wouldn’t be seen dead on a Chinese bus, what’s wrong with our ‘Clean Diesel’ buses?”

If you had been following EVs as long as I have you would know that Toyota announces a revolutionary solid state battery practically every year. They started doing it a decade ago. You would have to know nothing about EVs to get excited about it. Here is the link to the article: https://www.autoevolution.com/news/toyota-to-offer-high-performance-solid-state-batteries-in-2020-90501.html

Hybrids come with only about a 1kWh battery by comparison my latest EV has 85kWh gross. Hybrids will only give you a little more efficiency due to regen. By comparison my EV has 580km Range and I can use the bi-directional charging to help power my house. I use solar to power my off-grid house and E vehicles, resulting in no bills. I welcome improvements in batteries but my with current EV I can add 7km of range per kWh and can charge at 150kW/hour. So I can add 350km of range in 20 minutes. Don't trust anything that Toyota says about EV batteries.

To be expected with most people waiting for project juniper to be launched very soon

I reviewed the e6 2 years ago at the Korat EV motor show. Taxi definitely came to mind. It wasn’t a new car even back then.

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Unfortunately the data you used is nearly 6 years out of date. The State Oil Fund today would be a significant negative in your figures - good try though

At the BKK motor show in 2018 I only saw one EV, the 40 kWh Nissan Leaf with a 8 second 0-100km/h for ฿2m. A few months ago I bought a BYD Seal AWD with an 85kWh gross battery and a 3.8 second 0-100km/h for ฿1.6m Technology changes, EVs get better and cheaper all the time resulting in many more problems for used ICE cars in the future. My car comes with 8 years of car and battery warranty and 8 years of free servicing. So I will be keeping for 8 years at least. If the resale price after that is too low, I will use it’s 6 Tesla Powerwalls of battery storage to keep me off-grid.

They need the tax to help pay for the subsidies. It's a vicious circle! "Come on EV owners you need to chip in to help pay for our fossil fuel subsidies. Yes I know we said it was for the roads but we spend nothing on roads compared to the subsidies we give to fossil fuel companies"

You will please to know that I don’t benefit a single Satang of that subsidy

EV haters are always going after EV owners for not paying enough tax. If all the Diesel drivers switched to EVs in Thailand we wouldn't have to subsidize Diesel to the tune of 100 billion Baht

You clearly don’t understand the concept of toxicity. If you never had heavy metal poisoning I suggest you try licking your Lead Acid battery, I’m sure you’ll find it an edifying experience.

When I got my BYD Seal 5 months ago there weren’t any English language owners posting videos, so I spent a good deal of time sitting in the car with the aircon on making videos. I can confirm that car uses very little power when not moving about 1% per hour. Teslas come with a dedicated camp mode

Agreed, high speed will reduce the range of EVs, but as most people do most of their driving on short journeys in Town EVs range will be better than claimed. It’s also worth pointing out the the average Hilux driver reading this forum will probably only be getting 10-11km/L at highway speed and much worse stuck in traffic on beach road

Summary of BYD reservation in Motor Show 2024 5,345 cars (Number 2) | BYD Dolphin has the highest ratio - Rank 1 : BYD Dolphin 2,379 cars (44.5%) - Rank 2 : BYD Atto 3 1,457 cars (27.3%) - Rank 3 : BYD Seal 702 cars (13.1%) - Rank 4 : Denza D9 647 (12.1%) - Rank 5 : BYD Seal U 160 (3.0%) #MotorShow #MotorShow2024 #autolifethailand

Well on this particular discussion you will never be taken seriously. This is a discussion about EVs in Thailand and all of the top contributors drive EVs in Thailand and willingly answer questions from the EV curious. Your comment about @JBChiangRai says more about you. You have joined a discussion that you clearly have no personal experience or knowledge of and you resort to insults when you loose your argument, not very “Eloquent” Perhaps it’s time for this pilgrim to undertake a pilgrimage to another discussion

Congratulations, welcome to the Seal Club. I have driving a Seal AWD for nearly 5 months now and love it. These are good discussions: https://aseannow.com/topic/1310792-byd-seal-tips-tricks-and-help/ https://aseannow.com/topic/1308177-rate-charging-suppliers-based-on-ease-of-use https://aseannow.com/topic/1279914-ev-charging-stations-cs I have a few videos on my YT Channel including this one about using my Seal to power my house

sirineou is clearly a troll so will be added to my block list and will be ignored

Thanks for the post and congratulations on reading most of the 5,000+ posts The main posters all own EVs unfortunately the topic attracts the haters who feel that their opinions don’t need to be supported by facts. So things can get a little testy. Possibly the best approach is to simply block the trolls and ignore them. However this topic is supposed to be a resource for potential EV owners and it would be a shame if someone was put off by a poster who doesn’t drive an EV claiming that there aren’t enough chargers.

My reply to you included a citation that directly contradicted your premise

My MG came with 5 years of free data sim. The data covered the car use and the bundled free music service from True. I don’t know what the monthly data usage allowance is but in 3 years I have never exceeded it. Not sure about my BYD but J do know that OTAs are not included in the monthly allowance.

HEV v PHEVs It’s quite difficult to get information about the battery size in HEVs because they don’t want you know. Usually it’s only about 1kWh by comparison my EV has 85kWh gross. So you are driving an ICE car with a such a tiny battery that it’s going to have very little impact on economy they are in no way a “halfway house” to a full EV Battery life is described in terms of cycle life, how many times it can be completed charged and discharged. For my EV that is probably once a week, for a hybrid it can be several times in a single short journey. HEVs do not use batteries designed for long life like the LFP chemistry in my EV…. “Toyota has no immediate plans to drop its decades-long history of using NiMH (nickel-metal hydride) batteries, a stark contrast to other automakers solely offering electrified vehicles with lithium-ion batteries. “NiMH is reserved solely for our hybrid-electric vehicle applications,” https://www.mobilityengineeringtech.com/component/content/article/49256-sae-ma-07246

If you want to be taken seriously in this discussion you can’t just spout BS you need to post evidence to support your arguments H2 is a deception promoted by the fossil fuel industry and I can’t believe people are still falling for it. Thailand doesn’t have a single commercial H2 filling station or a H2 car you can buy. As for the rest of the world- tried it didn’t like it. “First Shell, now Motive, hydrogen fuel station closures continue in the UK The number of hydrogen refuelling stations in the UK has dwindled from 15 in 2021 to just 5 now” https://innovationorigins.com/en/first-shell-now-motive-hydrogen-fuel-station-closures-continue-in-the-uk/

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