Bandersnatch

I am happy to have an intelligent conversation about EVs, but I find myself as an EV owner here in Thailand having to fact check almost everything that is posted by people that don’t own EVs here. It might sound like EV owners are not prepared to consider the downside of EVs but on the flip side I rarely hear anything sensible said by non EV owners. @OneMoreFarang maybe you can prove me wrong. Is owning an EV as easy as owning an ICE car? No it’s not, when you fill up you can pay with cash and the staff will take care of everything. Public EV charging requires an app and there is nobody there to hold your hand - this is just too hard for some folk. This is a post I made on my EVs in Thailand discussion over a year ago

@pgrahmm - you have been asked twice to post these videos showing EVs only having 20% of initial indicated available range. You are clearly happy to make stuff up and think people will believe you - very sad

You can see from my profile picture, that I am not worried about parking my EV close to my house. I also have 36kWh of LFP batteries in my mechanical room a few meters from where I sleep.

I didn’t know he was selling EVs now. His videos normally get trotted out when anybody wants to bash EVs

Post a video of his to support that statement. Unlike you I own an EV - I have done my research.

If you are going to post sweeping statements like this without any supporting research nobody is going to take what you say seriously. An anti EV YouTuber is not supporting research https://www.kbb.com/car-news/study-electric-vehicles-involved-in-fewest-car-fires/

BYD Seal or Tesla Model 3? You can buy new shape in Australia but not in Thailand

The video is 10 months old - anything could have happened in the meantime, but I agree LFP for me

I wonder if they will be bringing the $103,000 Hydrogen fuel cell version ????

Can you share the videos? I’ve done a search and can’t find any videos of an EV only having 20% of initial indicated available range

Some good contributions from @Pib over on the “Are you thinking of buying a BYD” discussion which was started to try and show that BYDs all catch fire in China. Here we try to keep the discussion focused on EVs in Thailand

A lot of buzz about the BYD Seal. some more gossip about the price, please excuse the Google translation. I think the cheapest one has the BYD Atto 3 Extended Range 61kWh battery. Next has the 82.5kWh with RWD Then the AWD

Glad I bought my Electric motorbike in time to get the discount. Currently debating bringing forward the purchase of my second EV - bad case of FOMO

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Rather than spending tax payers money on fossil fuel subsidies it could be spent on roads instead. "Globally, fossil fuel subsidies were $7 trillion or 7.1 percent of GDP in 2022, reflecting a $2 trillion increase since 2020" https://www.imf.org/en/Topics/climate-change/energy-subsidies

My main solar components cost about ฿500k. It powers my house and EV. I haven’t used any grid power in the last year. My payback is less than 6yrs.

The cost of providing electricity is not fixed, it varies with demand. To lower the overall cost we need to flatten the demand curve and remove the most expensive peaks. Some people still seem to think that EVs are the problem not the solution. Many EVs - all BYDs and the latest MGs come with bidirectional charging. “Batteries on wheels: California to mandate bidirectional charging on EVs from 2027” will mean that all EVs will soon have bidirectional charging. https://thedriven.io/2023/05/05/batteries-on-wheels-california-to-mandate-bidirectional-charging-on-evs-from-2027/ If you have, solar, home batteries or an EV this video looks at how smart tariffs can flatten the demand curve. If you want to understand how smart electricity pricing can reflect the actual cost of electricity in real time watch this video. Yes, these videos are from the UK but they show the direction we should all be going.

Car looks great, I have done some podcasts with Miles Roberts he knows his stuff. In the video below the MG owners club at Swavesey, near Cambridge is featured, brought back memories of many visits buying bits for a restoration.

Yes it’s raining now and yes we are in the rainy season, but

How much have you paid for charging an EV in Thailand and what charging companies have you used?

Rather than spending tax payers money on fossil fuel subsidies it could be spent on roads instead. "Globally, fossil fuel subsidies were $7 trillion or 7.1 percent of GDP in 2022, reflecting a $2 trillion increase since 2020" https://www.imf.org/en/Topics/climate-change/energy-subsidies I charge my EV in the middle of the day after my house batteries are full. I would love to be paid to feed back to the grid at times of peak demand but the feed-in system in Thailand is a low flat rate and only for those with small 5kW systems or smaller. I don't have bi-directional charging but will get it on my next EV.

You think that the US will stop car factories in Thailand from selling cars in Thailand - what do you think they are going to do about it?

Not only EV batteries are getting cheaper but also home solar batteries. Back in 2017 I was shopping for home solar batteries at a green energy show in BKK and was quoted: ฿150,000 for 5.6kWh or ฿26,785 per kWh. Four years later I paid: ฿68,000 for 9kWh or ฿7,555 per kWh

5 years ago I bought a million Baht of gold bricks. The price then was ฿18,000 per Baht. Today I just sold 3 Baht for close to ฿33,000 each. My investment strategy is simple, I keep the original million baht in gold. If the price goes up I sell, if it goes down I buy. I never sell at the top or buy at the bottom but if I can sell or buy at least one Baht brick and still keep my million Baht in gold I do.