ivan96822

Despite all of the TIT posts, I don't see why we should put up with obvious disrespect from people from whom we want to buy something. Any customer is entitled politeness and help and gratuitous bad remarks about someone whom they assume can't understand what they say just isn't acceptable. The shop, to say the least, doesn't deserve custom.

You need to think about the circumstances. Some of the skinny 40 degree drinkers at out soi shop decided that it was fun to call me fat. By comparison with them I am certainly well covered. Not wishing to start a village feud, I would just take my purchases and leave with no further conversation. Eventually they became bored with the game and gave up.

Out in the sticks here, despite there being plenty of foreigners, leery lads sometime like to say 'farang' as we pass by, not to us but about us and so that we can hear. When you look around, they are having a silly snigger at their cleverness. The appropriate response is 'Khun Lao'. Without fail, they will go very quiet, look at each other and grimace as they attempt to engage their brains to work out the implications of the response.

Again, you are trying to be smart, but your thai is wrong,

why would you want to call them Mr Lao, do you mean khon lao?

Again? What do you mean?

What I say to them does the job. Beyond that I don't care whether your command of Thai is better than mine or not.

You come across as very weak.

Thailand, Iraq, Brazil, California, Texas: if someone insults you and you barely lift a finger, I hope you're in your 60s.

You remind me of Piggy from "The Lord of the Flies." Why would you share this information with others and invite others to open game on you?

In all due respect, you should be a little more direct with those "friendly" folks making comments about your appearance. It won't kill you or get you banished from the village.

Next time, just pull out a stick of dynamite, snap out a lighter, and walk around the counter toward the clerk.

Ok, ok, ok...

So can I book a one-way ticket, land in LOS with my credentials, knock on a few doors and get a better-than-average teaching gig?

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Very profound. Give me a break.

You dog

Good man making that salary....Keep me in the loop. I'm still consolidating my resume, work experience, and consolidating all things teaching to break into a bona fide international school in BKK.

So can anyone on this forum let me know of a few international schools that pay in the 60,000 to 80,000 Thai baht per month range?

I know--as one person posted--that securing a job at an international school is not the easiest thing to do, but I figure that enough folks reading this must certainly have some credible input. Let me know!

With your qualifications you should be aiming at finding a job in a school that pays much more than 60-80k per month. You're worried about your CV, yet seem to aspire to teach in a lower-tiered school. The kind of schools that you want on your CV will pay far more than that.

I don't aspire to teach in a lower-tiered school. I simply am not greedy. 60K per month is very reasonable for Bangkok, in my opinion. You could live relatively well with that type of salary.

Regarding my CV, if you think I wouldn't jump at something paying higher than that, you're crazy. But I figure I have to start from somewhere and can work my way up when I need to.

My apologies, maybe my choice of words was a little poor. You are clearly a very well qualified professional, and your earning potential here is much higher than you may appreciate. It is not about greed, nobody enters the teaching profession with that in mind, but getting a salary that your qualifications deserve.

I am not sure what teachers in the US are paid, but you should be looking to roughly match that here; you will at good school.

I've already stated to you on another thread that I am earning well in excess of my salary back in the UK, plus I get a whole host of additional benefits. You can go and get yourself a job for 60k per month, but it will not be at what would be regarded as a 'good' school. From what I understand, from a conversation with a friend that worked for them, Wall Street language schools pay over 50k per month to their TEFL teachers. 60k, or even 80k, is far lower than you should expect. 60k may also not go as far as you think in Bangkok, but that of course is a personal thing.

I have seen at the salary scales for a good number of the international schools in Bangkok; the ones that I would consider working for anyway. There are plenty more, but ones I wouldn't consider. All of the schools I refer to are what would classed as top or mid tier schools; all pay well in excess of 80k per month.

One question I have for you, which would affect your employment prospects, is how much experience do you have? Most schools would be seeking two years as an absolute minimum.

I've been teaching for four years here in the U.S. I am no rookie and consider myself to be quite a dam_n good teacher.

Questions for your, mate: Did you get hired locally in Thailand, or at a job fair somewhere in the West? The salary that I am aiming at is roughly what a teacher in the U.S. (in my region, at least) would make AFTER TAXES. When you say 80K per month, is that before OR AFTER taxes?

Let me know! Thanks...

Used to be I'd see a good looking woman and I'd think "WOW!"

Now when I see a woman all dolled-up I think "is that reallly a guy?"

Been out here too long I guess.

If "she's" tall with big hands and looks like "she" is trying way too hard, it's most likely a dude.

The Hillary Bars on Soi 4 have signs that state "no service lady boy," so you're pretty safe looking for real women in those spots.

So can anyone on this forum let me know of a few international schools that pay in the 60,000 to 80,000 Thai baht per month range?

I know--as one person posted--that securing a job at an international school is not the easiest thing to do, but I figure that enough folks reading this must certainly have some credible input. Let me know!

With your qualifications you should be aiming at finding a job in a school that pays much more than 60-80k per month. You're worried about your CV, yet seem to aspire to teach in a lower-tiered school. The kind of schools that you want on your CV will pay far more than that.

I don't aspire to teach in a lower-tiered school. I simply am not greedy. 60K per month is very reasonable for Bangkok, in my opinion. You could live relatively well with that type of salary.

Regarding my CV, if you think I wouldn't jump at something paying higher than that, you're crazy. But I figure I have to start from somewhere and can work my way up when I need to.

I've seen openings at this school. Is this a good place to find work as a teacher?

Like a previous poster, I am from California and have a general American accent. As this is the "Hollywood" accent, all I have to do is slow down my speech a bit when I'm talking to Thais or other non-native speakers.

Yes, I agree: a "general American accent." As for the gent talking about midwestern versus southern accents, while I am sure there are specific idiosyncratic differences, simply put, if you have a regional accent that sounds like it comes from either area, as a native Californian, I don't really try to differentiate between the two. Both sound like they are from the boonies.

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Since as far back as when my parents were in school.

I don't mind anyone's accent, but some midwestern folk seem to be conscious of their accents outside of the midwest.

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That friend of yours is probably hiding his midwestern accent because if you're from the States, those accents are associated with the poor and/or uneducated.

I grew up in California and speak with no regional accent. Put me in New York, Glasgow, Sidney, or Bangkok and I speak the same as I always have. You'll just know I'm from America.

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Yes, I do have a valid teaching certificate from the U.S.

So can anyone on this forum let me know of a few international schools that pay in the 60,000 to 80,000 Thai baht per month range?

I know--as one person posted--that securing a job at an international school is not the easiest thing to do, but I figure that enough folks reading this must certainly have some credible input. Let me know!

Ok, mates! The silence is deafening...!

Perhaps I should be more humble and thank my lucky stars for earning 45,000 Thai baht per month?

That said, as long as the two big bottles of Chang are still in the neighborhood of 85 baht, and my handsome good looks can get me from Sukhumvit to Khao San Road for 180 baht, I will wink in the mirror and give the cabbie my coins for change.....so long as he doesn't stop at a red light and urinate on a wall while I'm in the back seat.

Just knock on the door and join the party , after a few whiskys you will either not hear the music or will not care if you do hear the music..

Great attitude.

So can anyone on this forum let me know of a few international schools that pay in the 60,000 to 80,000 Thai baht per month range?

I know--as one person posted--that securing a job at an international school is not the easiest thing to do, but I figure that enough folks reading this must certainly have some credible input. Let me know!

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Thanks, mate! Appreciate the encouragement!

If you are at the beginning or middle of your career, my answer is "yes." Too many assumptions made be too many resume-readers, and the level of education here is in the toilet.

If you are near the end of your career, it's a wonderful "last job"--relaxed, low-key, friendly atmosphere, adoring students, and lots to do/see.

So what do you feel is wrong with doing a one to four year stint in Bangkok after four years of teaching in the West?

I'm not saying that other responses to this post should be taken as gospel, but I do understand that a reputable school will be a reputable school whether it is in Berlin, Brussels, or Bangkok.

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I appreciate the insight, folks...

That said, I do not feel the need to find the most prestigious international school in Bangkok. My background is with high schoolers, though I did teach seventh graders one year, too.

I would be perfectly content to earn 60,000 to 70,000 Thai baht per month. Has anyone got any suggestions or advice related to this latest tidbit of information?

You have constructed your question in such a way that we have no choice other than to recommend you come and teach in Bangkok. So, see you soon then.

If those with alternative opinions wish to opine, feel free. I was just trying to avoid the typical "low wages--large classes--unsupportive staff" cliches that seem to riddle many of the posts in this forum.

Perhaps the OP would care to expand on his opinion that, "teaching in Thailand seems more exciting".

I have spent time in Thailand and enjoy it. The opportunities to teach there are appealing. The nightlife is great. I have no problem with friendly members of the opposite sex. The international city aspect of Bangkok makes it feel like a home away home in the West--only in the far East.

I do treat business life and social life like apples and oranges. You can have one as well as the other, so long as you know how to keep the two separate and far apart.

You are no crazier than most of the people posting on this forum.

I fail to see why teaching in BKK would not look good on your resume.

My only worry is the notorious reputation Bangkok has. Tokyo, obviously, is comparable to London, Vancouver, BC, or Paris.

If it's notorious.. don't come to Bangkok.. there are plenty of other nice, non notorious places to work.

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Well, you obviously didn't read my original post. I want to teach in Bangkok and I am not interested in advice on where I should go.

You are no crazier than most of the people posting on this forum.

I fail to see why teaching in BKK would not look good on your resume.

My only worry is the notorious reputation Bangkok has. Tokyo, obviously, is comparable to London, Vancouver, BC, or Paris.

I have taught in the West for several years now and I have always thought about going abroad and teaching in an international school (I have a teaching license in the U.S., a B.A. in English, and a Masters in Education).

That said, I would be interested in teaching in Bangkok for a real international school. However, I would plan on staying anywhere from one to four years. Would this stint in Thailand cause potential employment problems down the line?

An international school in Tokyo or Hong Kong looks a lot different than a school in Bangkok on a resume (Am I wrong?). However, teaching in Thailand seems much more exciting.

What is/are your opinion(s)? Please respond.

Also, I am interested in hearing from those that can relate. I am not interested in hearing any horror stories, references to low wages (I have excellent qualifications), or suggestions as to where would be a better place to teach.

I am interested in teaching in Bangkok. Am I crazy for thinking this?

so you made a hooker iron your clothes? congrats?

What made you jump to that conclusion?

Don't listen to them, Falcon. There are always a few old miserable people who want to start an argument. I for one enjoyed your little story. It had a sweet, simple message in it. It is always the simple things that somehow touch us the most.

I'm glad that you enjoy such wholesome entertainment.