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2 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:
On March 26, when Parliament was recessed, he traveled to his home, as did every other MP. Some MPs went even further - Alastair Carmichael (LD) to Shetland, Douglas Ross (Con) to Moray. There was nothing untoward in any of those or any of the 650 other MPs who travelled to their homes on the same day.
Kinnock? I consider what he did to be worthy of some form of sanction. I have no idea of Tahir Ali or what he did.
Brian Windsor - another one, except he was already suffering from COVID when he selfishly spread his germs across my country. He should be hauled over the coals for that - and back again. But, as we well know, the establishment has carte blanche to do as they please.
Exactly.
The political class now consider themselves to rule, not serve, those who elected them. They demonstrate this time and time again at all levels of government and within the civil service.
None will face sanctions. Few if any will apologies and show remorse. Many have and will just stick two fingers up to the public.
Cummings may be a thoroughly unpleasant person, or nice. I don't know him. But he's certainly upset a wide section of the media, and a large number of politicians including in the Conservative Party. He his paying the price for that.
The BBC have said one presenter on Newsnight broke BBC standards regarding Cummings in what was a blatant and highly politically motivated broadcast. But nothing will happen. They've admitted it, so matter closed.
Nicola Sturgeon must be held accountable of the Nike conference and her handling of that too. But probably will just say some weasely words to brush it aside. She must also be accountable for her handling of the pandemic in Scotland.
Starmer must be held accountable as his MP's and shadow minister were to coin a phrase "taking the <deleted>" and he's said nothing about it.
Johnson must be held accountable for the government's response once a full inquiry into it has been produced. Lessons must be learned.
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1 hour ago, puipuitom said:
You British all could have known this when you voted so overwhelmingly for the Clown and his master, Dominic Cummings...
Well, that was the choice of the British people.
No won could know this epidemic was coming, not even the Dutch with their powers for seeing into the future!
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3 hours ago, tebee said:
There was a quote by someone in Tony Blair's time along the lines of "if the Guardian and the Daily Mail agree on a headline, you need at accept that as reality" - well recently that's been happening again !
Cummings has become a liability.
Yeah right, Probably Campbell or Brown.
But in reality two liars saying something the same doesn't make it true automatically.
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16 minutes ago, 7by7 said:
Personally I have used quotes from the Mail and the Telegraph so that people like you can't say I'm quoting PC, anti Tory, left wing rags.
Now that you can't use that excuse to dismiss the reports, you have instead chosen to use the term 'poorly informed gutter rag' to describe the Mail.
What is your opinion of the Telegraph?
It's interesting how unpopular Cummings has made himself with all of the press and media. And with many members of the Conservative Party too.
But that's not an excuse to victimize him or to treat him differently to others in the political arena who broke lockdown rules without any particular reason other than they wanted to.
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5 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:You are totally right - that is why I believe that internal absolution, whether from the Nasty Party or from the BBC, is equally as tainted as my perspective.
Talking of the Nasty Party, the SNP Westminster Leader apparently made a 600 mile road trip during lockdown.
But as a Scottish National Party socialist that can be simply swept under the carpet. And in the Nearly As Nasty Party, Kinnock junior, the lowly opposition MP you called him. Only he's a Shadow Minister, tipped for higher things. He broke the lockdown with his wife, the former PM of Denmark, to visit his mam and dad - a former long term MEP and former opposition leader and EU commissioner. Or Tahir Ali who attended a funeral with 100 others. Or the other politician who have done as they please.
Once you get the justice system being subverted by politics, applied selectively, and unduly influenced by media with an agenda, democracy is on a slippery slope to oblivion.
Politicians are public servants. Only they've turned that round to be the rulers.
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On 5/27/2020 at 5:52 PM, YetAnother said:
thinly veiled version of " leaders are above the law"
And so are opposition MPs including shadow ministers; and Leaders of minority political parties in Westminster it would seem.
Only the media are quietly brushing those transgressions under the carpet.
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33 minutes ago, JensenZ said:Even voter fraud will not save the Democrats. They are already committing a kind of covert fraud... putting up a candidate that is not mentally up to the challenge... and then probably planning a switcheroo with whatever running mate he chooses. No one can genuinely believe he could handle a single term. Even that won't work because Biden will not get the votes. Once he comes out from hiding, his mouth will see to that.
I don't think Trump is concerned about the material presented in the "fact check" rather than the insult to actually fact check his Tweets using CNN and Washington Post as sources. People are fixated on this particular Tweet and fact check, but he has a long campaign to consider and what harm they could do going forward.
Twitter needs Trump and Trump needs Twitter. I believe this fact checking is either already over, or soon to be over.
Fair points. Wouldn't be surprised if poor old dopey Joe is being used as a stalking horse. And then the DNC will fix the convention to suddenly spring a new candidate to fight Trump?
If something is going to be fact checked, then that must apply to all posters and must have a wider check than two news organizations known for their strong political bias.
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21 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:
Liars often get angry when their lies are called out.
Biden certainly does!
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23 hours ago, Enoon said:
"Wissanu told the envoy that there are several reasons for extending the state emergency by a month"
But not the big one:
It is the natural state for Thai governance as far as the regime is concerned.
They seek every opportunity to apply and maintain it.
So before Covid 19, when was last state of emergency in Thailand? And what were the dates?
Don't let reality confuse you!
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5 hours ago, Hank Gunn said:
But, but,... Thaksin was corrupt!
He certainly was. But he didn't waste money that could be spent benefiting his family on armaments!
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5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:
Most functional governments need an opposition to serve as a watchdog. Though the army hates it, they serve a useful function, and it is a sheer pleasure to watch them call out an army who feels they are above the laws of the land. Go Sompong go! You are doing the people of the nation a great service, each and every time you call out Prayuth. If anything, he needs far more opposition. Eventually he and his hapless army will fall. It cannot happen too soon.
It's really quite funny in a bizarre way. PTP were trying to get a 2.2 trillion loan which they'd administer off the books, no checks and balances and no parliamentary scrutiny. When people questioned their intrepid leader Yingluck said "just trust us" 555! Dip your bread in boys!!
Only it never came off, just like the proposed scam to get Thaksin back with all his crimes, past and present and granted immunity.
Those who took full advantage of the situation have seemingly fixed their immunity and now getting a very large trough to control.
How that jealousy must eat away at them!
And you think this is in the people's interest 5555555555555555555!
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25 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:Does Canada have similar sanctions on Iran? If the answer is no, how then can the Canadian bank be put at risk. Such a miscarriage of justice.
The BBC report on this included a quote from Trudeau saying that the decision was important and right because it was important to show Canada had a justice system that was free from political interference.
Given his past record, the enormous ironies in his statement seemed to have escaped him!
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2 hours ago, Bender Rodriguez said:did they not get in by themselves to cross the channel ?
Yes. And probably paid the traffickers a large amount of money for the privilege of being stuffed in a truck and suffocated.
Well done all police forces involved in arresting these scum.
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2 hours ago, Proboscis said:And so what is your suggestion, Prof. Constitutional Expert? Let Covid-19 rip through the houses of congress - remember, Covid-19 does not care whether someone is a Republican or Democrat.
We live in the IT age, as well as now the Covid 19 one.
How hard would it be to have a mechanism that allowed members to vote remotely? Without having to ask someone to vote for them?
This smacks of Nancy the waxed one deciding everyone must vote every time how she tells them so it don't really matter.
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9 hours ago, wordchild said:As a President he has been a disaster.
He has significantly damaged his country's standing in the world and his moral authority is pretty much zero. He is not taken seriously by anyone anymore, excepting his core base.
This is a tragedy because, on China, he is right!
The world needs a collective response to China across a range of issues, sadly Trump is in no position to lead this.
Who decides whose good and bad in the world - you?
HK is a part of China. Maybe the world needs a collective response to American Foreign Policy? Or perhaps the world needs a response to how African-Americans seem to risk being murdered regularly by various Police Forces?
If the current US administration doesn't want to trade with another country, then that's up to them. As long as they don't want to dictate what's right and wrong to others; because quite frankly, they don't always know the difference themselves.
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3 hours ago, puipuitom said:Time you get rid of both... Quite some politicians were executed after WO2 for causing less deaths and economic damage in their country.
The Dutch PM was unable to visit his dying mother because he obeyed coronavirus care home rules.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/dutch-pm-unable-visit-dying-22089288
The Dutch PM didn't visit his dying mother. Didn't feel he's an elite above the rules.
A British MP, and shadow Foreign Office Minister, visited his dad, a former British opposition leader and EU commissioner, and his mam, a former long term MEP, with his wife a former PM of Denmark, so they could sing happy birthday to his dad! Clearly, they feel above the law. He was shamed by his local Police Force. But he hasn't apologized, shown any remorse, been hounded by the press, had any negative comments from his Political Party Leader, or felt the wrath of public opinion. So it seems their self opinionated elitism is right.
2 more MP's also broke the lockdown without valid reasons, and I Welsh Assembly member did. Like their birthday singing colleague, non have apologized, shown any remorse or suffered public anger and rent-a-crowd protesters with placards.
I despair for the UK.
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3 hours ago, sawadee1947 said:
The British got what they were voting for
A clown, a loser, a liar, not capable to manage a severe crisis, apparently not the brightest candle on the cake.
Good Luck Little Britain. ????
Yes, because the French President, Russian President/PM, Chinese President for Life, the Italian PM, the Brazilian President have all done sooooooo much better.
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6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:I am seeing 37,000 as a total. Is this number correct? UK, is already number two. But that is an extraordinary number. Of course nowhere near the crazy US numbers. But, they are the world leaders!
I think the UK includes all Covid and suspected Covid related. deaths reported. Some other nations are apparently a little bit selective on what they include.
One of the things, when this is over and real investigations begin, is an establishment of correct figures and uniform reporting. The study into why different countries experienced such different results will be mega. There are already plenty of hypothesis to validate or invalidate.
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8 hours ago, sprq said:
No contract tracing, I note, unlike the unworkable rules now applied in Thailand. Lucky English.
Yes, compare the numbers of cases / deaths. Really lucky British!
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9 hours ago, smedly said:
I hope the voters see this for what it is and wipe them out at the polls
it is obvious he has been offered something he cannot refuse - like loads of money and a big chunk of the trough
shameless people would sell their sole to fill their pockets
That's how it works. Sell to the highest bidder.
Especially if your pi33ed off with your current lot. Let that be known and wait for the offer to come in.
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Weren't their cases, in the past, of politicians being caught watching porn on their phones, tablets, whilst actually in parliament?
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1 hour ago, DrTuner said:
Chinese originated in Africa, so I guess they should be the rulers. Nigerian Princes, rejoice!
We all originated in Africa!
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11 hours ago, Chelseafan said:
Under Contract 2.3, 80 per cent of the payment will be made in the US currency and the remaining 20 per cent will be
made in baht.pocketed.Seriously though, did Thailand tender the contracts out or was China the only bidder?
He who holds the purse strings makes the rules!
Don't think China has the nice public procurement fairness rules the US, UK and EU do.
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3 hours ago, Das Boot said:
I am and have been since the beginning, a proponent of the lockdown to control the spread of this disease. That said, I fail to see why continued full lockdown is any benefit? People are hungry, many out of work & by their own announcement 31 (33 now) days without new infection in Chonburi province. Yes the populace as behaving under the lockdown (for the most part) & I'm sure the govt are loving that aspect, but at an enormous cost to the economy, to individuals and to the country as a whole. There soon won't be a country left to exert any power over. The longer it goes, the more difficult it will be to bounce back from it. Maybe its time to start a phased recovery? Or would that be too complicated?
Thailand never had a full 24 hour lockdown. It took sensible actions, including closing it's borders. Actions which have, by comparison with the vaunted Western governments, seem to be much more effective.
Now it has and is pursuing a policy of cautious relaxation of the prohibited activities, whilst still maintaining sensible rules. This is a phased recovery!
The whole world economy is knackered. Some countries, including the big boys, are gonna be much worse off than Thailand when it comes to bouncing back.
Only many TVF posters are either unable to admit it or so far from reality they can't.
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British minister says 'move on' from rage over PM adviser Cummings' road trip
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But we also had a Labour Shadow Minister and his wife drive a couple of hundred miles to wish his dad a happy birthday. And then brag about it on Twitter. And then waffle and more or less say so what when the local police force challenged him.
His party leader, mainstream media, not so mainstream media have ignored his arrogant transgression. No rent-a-mob with placards hissing at him and no pack of jostling press hounds.
Kangaroo courts, trial by the media, and rent a mob justice are appalling and have no place in a democracy.