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5 minutes ago, nauseus said:Thanks. Although this does not excuse the behaviour of the Europeans (and some Africans), this point is very relevant for a true perspective. The Arabian slave trade took millions of Africans from east (and west) Africa, as well as some Europeans and Asians too, over a far longer time span and involving at least double the numbers of those sent to the Americas and The Caribbean.
There seem not any descendants of Arab slavery in the Middle East, now, to protest against those countries are there? I wonder why that is?
Modern day slavery - research the experiences of Filipinas, Indonesian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi, and African maids and servants in KSA, UAE, kuwait etc etc.
Interesting reading.
Don't see any Western based students protesting that. Or any Labour Party politicians jumping up and down.
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2 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:If I ever see a Deigo Maradonna statue , I am going to knock it down on account of him being cheat
A cheat, a blasphemer and a druggie!
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1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:I didn't remove the statue or break social distancing norms.
I support social distancing and lockdown precautions.
I also support the removal of statues of those vile individuals who profited from human misery. Not sure I would have done it this way, but I understand the feelings and motivations of those who did so.
See, not exclusive.
Do you understand that mob rule, mob violence, taking the law as they see it into their own hands, are completely against democracy?
Are you sure you understand the feelings and motivations of those who did so? Do you know them? Were they all good citizens outraged at someone's death thousands of miles away? Or might they have been political activists following their own agendas? Whichever, they must be identified and prosecuted.
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20 hours ago, simon43 said:
Seems like mob rule has taken over in the UK..... police deciding not to intervene..... rule of law broken time and time again. I'm glad to have left the UK 18 years ago - it's gone to the dogs!
Been on that slippery slope for many years sadly. Police only allowed to enforce laws selectively. Political correctness more important.
The local force have said they will investigate this criminal damage. Let's see how far they get. Some very clear photos of those responsible.
Same in London. Some very clear photos of the violent thugs using this protest as cover for their own political agendas.
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20 hours ago, Sujo said:
Well trump supporters certainly need it.
The youth need it but the older generation are not worth the effort as their racism is too ingrained even though they dont admit it.
Politically correct ageist. Supa!
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20 hours ago, Pilotman said:If you need 'educating' on the evil of racism and discrimination then you must be as dim as a toad in blinkers.
Interestingly, people are actually "educated' to become racists and bigots.
No one is born a racist or bigot. There is no racist or bigot gene.
When will the toady politicians take off their blinkers and realize they're the worst culprits for creating racism and bigotry.
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17 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:
You sure are doing a good job of defending the racists with your posts here.
So your're a politically correct person whose views and behavior have always been politically correct; never changed as always perfect; never wrong; and has an amazing ability to present false equivalence and sophistry as actual logic.
Well, bully for you,
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4 hours ago, wensiensheng said:
I thought the whole idea of the current protests was to cause people to reflect on their previous bad behaviour and have them change for the better individually, thereby becoming themselves part of a movement for institutional change.
wahlberg has already admitted to doing wrong in his early years and as far as I can see, has indeed changed. Why then castigate him? He is a role model for what needs to happen with a lot of other people. Admission of intolerant acts and attitudes, coupled with change for the better.
Muhammad Ali, one of my heroes, once said something along the lines " race hate is wrong. Doesn't matter if it's white people or black people doing the hating; it's simply wrong".
He was a wise man, as well as one of the GOAT boxers.
But forgiving and encouraging people to learn and move on isn't politically correct. They must be denounced and persecuted.
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58 minutes ago, Logosone said:
More like hired muscle, cause you know guys like Wahlberg like to kick a guy in the face when he's lying down and being held down firmly by a 6 foot 4 associate.
They always take on anyone....provided they have back-up from 3 other guys.
Can you provide evidence of where that has happened, where Mr. Wahlberg has behaved as you state?
Or just making it up?
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19 hours ago, mr mr said:
stupid things for sure who hasn't. there are stupid things and then there are things that define who you really are as a person.
a tad more than stupid wouldn't you say. i mean come on man you have had to at least done some things like this when you were young right ? ????
an eye for an eye eh funky bunch ?
https://reelrundown.com/celebrities/Hate-Crimes-of-Mark-Wahlberg
Nearly two years later, on April 8, 1988, Mark decided to turn his hatred towards Asians. Thanh Lam, while carrying two cases of beer from his car to his home, was struck by a large wooden stick wielded by Mark Wahlberg; Mark, at this time, called Thanh a "Vietnam <deleted>--ing sh-t!" The blow knocked the man out.
Mark and two others left the scene. Mark then ran into another Vietnamese man named Hoa Trinh; at first asking the man for help in hiding from the police, when police came along, Wahlberg punched the man in the eye, knocking him to the ground; Trinh ended up losing that eye.
While in police custody, Mark continued to refer to "Slant-eyed g--ks" and other such slurs
So let's see.
Mark Whahlberg, as a teenager got into trouble for racial abuse. He, as a mature adult now, moved on from that, and more importantly speaks out against racism.
But you say, no, can't change. His teenage actions defined him as a person.
George Floyd. As a young man robbed housed at gun point. including deliberately pointing his gun at a pregnant lady's belly; smashing an old lady's skull in with his pistol and served prison time.
In later life, he was unlawfully killed by a police officer. And some are trying to turn him into a martyr.
But I guess you see George Floyd as a criminal armed thief and illegal drug abuser who couldn't have changed because his significant actions as a young person defined him?
Or are you saying white people can't change but black people can?
Or just applying double standards?
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19 hours ago, Pilotman said:
The are by far the laziest set of idiots I have yet to come across. They do nothing to serve the community that pays their wages, or at least the part of their wages that they don't go about extorting from those same people. They are a disgrace to Thailand, but hardly unique among Police Services the World over. I would treat any Police person, anywhere in the World with extreme caution and suspicion.
30 years ago I was a regular business traveler to Thailand and other SEA countries, China, HK, Korea etc.
I used to reflect on things in the nice comfortable BA Business class flight back to Blighty. One of the things was thinking who lucky we were to have a professional police force.
That was 30 years ago. How times have changed. We're not much better off now.
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2 hours ago, hotchilli said:
Speaks volumes about the trustworthiness of the people in charge !
If you remember, when PTP were trying to get a 2.2 trillion (ambitious bu$$ers - no pandemic as an excuse either) there were the same cries for scrutiny and transparency; especially as PTP were insisting the spending should be outside of parliament's scrutiny. When challenged the lovely Yingluck commented that this was to "speed up the process, just trust us". 555!
I bet they're green with envy - pun intended!
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8 hours ago, smedly said:
ex members of the Future Forward Party before they are locked up
yeah, right sure,
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1 hour ago, from the home of CC said:
If you're going to do this, put some teeth in it at least. the cops are coming to peoples homes in Canada to check because it's just not for show (which is what is sounds like in the UK according to some other posts). Your proposed system seems to rely upon people being responsible and performing the correct actions and that makes the outcome bleak imo..
Canada has a left wing leadership. They'll love the chance to exert more control on people. The left is all about control and distrusting people. They judge others by their own standards.
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5 hours ago, Thailand said:The UK are so far behind other countries apart from Brazil and the US in getting their act together with Covid they should be compensating many of this type of business. But even then the "reopening" has to be done with care.
They shouldn't be compensating any private companies more than the generous funding that has been provided. Far in excess of most other countries.
Greedy airlines, especially that little leprechaun at Ryanair can go fcku themselves. They've been doing it to passengers for years!
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5 hours ago, PJPom said:This report tends to support the understanding that the news we read has to reflect the opinion of the vocal minority. Send in the troops to quell the out of control looting seems a logical suggestion and the opinion that buildings, the loss of jobs and the cost to the public purse matters is important. Neither of these comments suits the bleeding hearts who take to Twitter, the newspaper’s Owners are there to make money and the fear of loosing advertisers makes them fold and only report what certain people wish to hear.
The press always claim freedom of the press is paramount but can’t they see they are only pandering to the vocal minority who will mercilessly crush any dissent through the power of social media.
Spot on.
Freedom of speech; Freedom of the press; Media Freedom.
All those freedoms now can only be allowed if what's communicated is politically correct and approved by the left liberals who demand total compliance.
If you dare communicate an opinion they disagree with you risk being fired, having co-workers protest against you, or worse.
Even when the vocal minority get crushed in elections, or shock defeats, they simply carry on with their attempts to oppress all they don't like. They only accept democracy if they like the result.
The biggest threat to freedom, liberty, democracy, equality, justice for all, today, is those that wish to impose what they consider to be politically correct and right on all others.
How those totalitarian states watching the "free world" must be laughing,
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6 hours ago, Matzzon said:
Yep, that might be true. However, that as a government adviser go out and try to look smart with all the facts in hand just makes this guy look stupid.
I saw this guy give an interview in which he made the same comments. To be fair, he stressed these comments were retrospective, based on hindsight and on information available at that time.
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7 hours ago, Tounge Thaied said:
Colin Powell fell on his sword and eviscerated his soul when he CHOSE to do the bidding of the immoral powers that shouldn't be when he lied to the world about WMD's in Iraq. He's yet another pathetic order following automoton... And this needs to be re-iterated, voting for the lesser of two evils (the current broken two party duopoly in America) is still voting for evil. The now completely immoral, defunct, evil political system in America is an abomination.
Most people with any intelligence can see the point your're making. It's not just the US but many other Western developed nations in which the electorate seem to be faced with choosing the least worst rather than the best.
Of course some posters here can't. The ones who see only bad on the right and only good on the left.
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1 hour ago, geriatrickid said:
There are a couple of details that you seem yo have missed. Those European bases support the US military deployment around the world, which assert US strategic economic and military interests. Without airforce bases in Europe how do you propose the US support (refuel/maintain) its military aircraft in both a financially prudent and efficient strategic manner?
Where do you wish injured US military personnel to be evacuated to when injured? Are you aware that without something like Landstuhl Regional Medical Center (LRMC) most seriously wounded personnel from Iraq or Afghanistan would have died? It has 1200+ US military personnel at this one location.
How do you propose the USA undertake spying and intelligence gathering operations on other countries without active bases in other countries?
Close the Japanese bases and the USA loses the Pacific and China moves about freely, uncontained.
Do you people ever think these things through? The USA is not independent, nor self sufficient. It relies on exports to foreign markets and revenues derived from foreign operations. The USA also relies on the import of key finished goods, food and raw materials. How do you propose that the USA protect its trade interests if its navy lacks foreign naval bases, or its airforce foreign airfields, or its special forces and army, forward operating positions?
Most, certainly all developed, countries rely on international trade in the globalized world.
How many maintain large numbers of military bases world wide?
Certainly not the UK, Germany, France or other EU member states. Nor Australia, NZ, Canada, or Asian countries.
China and Russia it seems are keen to expand.
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5 hours ago, TEFLKrabi said:
Um, the euro Germans and Italians against some other Euros. We Euros would like to thanks the US for turning up late twice and wish they’d stop trying to start a Third World War. We’d be happy to defend ourselves as we’ve been busy making friends for 70 years, not making enemies. ????????♂️
Indeed. To be fair, the US has more than helped keep the peace that fostered friendships. To also be fair, they did come late into two world wars; and did make a lot of money out of each!
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5 hours ago, BobbyL said:
She won't / can't do anything about this.
I am pretty sure we can guess which establishment ordered this to take place.
The fact that Thailand openly opposes some of the basic UN human rights (e.g - freedom of speech) tells you that her position is generally trivial.
Have a look which countries are on the UN HR committees. The whole UN is generally trivial!
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2 hours ago, nausea said:
Well, one thing's for sure, Cambodia's not a "safe third country" for these guys (cf. asylum law).
Strange that, considering who the eternal buddy of Cambodia's de facto dictator is.
Guess "eternal" only lasts as long as the gravy train keeps running.
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39 minutes ago, Oziex1 said:
Monday Hair, Tuesday nails, Wednesday coffee with friends.
Human rights, I don't have time for that!
Also I'd like to stay alive.
Have the UN asked you to be any kind of "Goodwill Ambassador" then?
No, thought not.
Felling of British slave trader statue heats up simmering debate
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So, they choose to commit criminal damage. For their own reasons. For which they should face the consequences. No one, absolutely no one, can be above the law in a democracy. And the law cannot be applied selectively.
So do you know all of those involved in pulling down the statue personally? Or just assuming you know the motivations?