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2 hours ago, JohnThi said:

I dont want to run all procedures/papers and transfer money to a bank accounts.

 

They convert the tourist visa to non immigrant and will give one year and tree months. next year i can do the extention myself. 

Then be prepared for a possible shed load of grief if  and the IO next year is not happy

with what occurred this year, but as they say here up to you.................

5 minutes ago, Doisaketdreamer said:

Thanks for these replies. It appears that there is no visa that corresponds to an adult family member who is temporarily a dependent. His only choice is to vary the route of entry and to apply for a 60-day visa and then a 30-day extension.  Regarding the words "spouse visa",  for my general edification can you tell me what the correct term is?

An extension of your permission to stay in the Kingdom on the grounds of marriage to a 

Thai national. More commonly referred to as a marriage extension and easier to remember......

The other common one is an extension of your permission to stay in the Kingdom on the

grounds of retirement, more commonly referred to as a retirement extension.

Sadly to my constant dismay both terms are often misused and ignored to the point of 

causing utter chaos to people trying to glean info here on TV.

I thank you for trying to get it right, cheers.

BTW OP there is no such thing as a " spouse VISA ".

Penalties X 10 + 0 enforcement = 0 .

33 minutes ago, simoh1490 said:

You also can believe what you wish. If the information provided thus far by way of links to a previous thread, news paper articles describing the problem, first hand blog style description, confirmation by other members, if those things don't help you believe there's an issue here for many people, I certainly can't help you.

The only issue here that I can see is your inability to see that the issue you perceive that

exists doesn't. 

1 hour ago, Flustered said:

Everyone a blog or rumour with no actual facts behind it. Some not even about UK banks situated in the UK. We know the US is different but still no proof of UK banks doing this. Did you even read these links you posted?

 

Not one actual incident of a UK citizen having a UK bank account, becoming non resident and then having it closed for that reason.

 

Potential money laundering...... yes. legitimate non resident........no.

 

P.S.

 

Just carried out a TV search for "my UK bank account closed"....No hits or references at all in TV.

As said nothing to justify your unsubstantiated claims?

1 hour ago, simoh1490 said:

I really don't know how much proof you need that UK banks have been closing expat accounts, you've been given articles on the subject from the major UK papers and individual first hand accounts, what do you expect, a list of people's names and addresses!

 

As for searching TVF under the strictly defined criteria you used I wouldn't expect to find much at all, if you really want to find something try searching TVF using HSBC, Nationwide or expat bank accounts and be prepared to trawl through lots of posts for peoples stories.

OK if they are there tell all WHERE????

Have to ask the same question have you actually read the links you are posting???

1 minute ago, simoh1490 said:

Do your own research, if you don't know how to use the TVF search function, Admin will provide instructions - you and me, we're done here.

Point proved I think.................

1 minute ago, simoh1490 said:

For your own sake and for the sake of getting the correct answer out there for everyone else, you might want to do just a teeny bit of research and read more of the posts that have been made on this subject over time. I however am not in the business of searching out proof and further supportive evidence of my claims, just to keep you happy!

 

FWIW the HSBC Safeguard program was a one off, created in response to money laundering charges in the US, it is not part of a periodic review it was a major reassessment of which overseas customers they wanted to keep and which they didn't, there's been plenty of posts on TVF from unhappy posters who have had their accounts closed and who were looking for a new place to bank. It's your choice to believe or not, I really don't care what you think.

Again with the generalisation " there's been plenty of posts on TVF from unhappy posters who have had their 

accounts closed " tell me where ????? If there are so many it should be very easy to point them out no??

Your condescending superior attitude makes your post even less plausible. As the saying goes " Put your money

where your mouth is ".

1 hour ago, simoh1490 said:

HSBC is a British Bank: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSBC

 

And all you would have had to do to verify what I wrote is true is to have read any of the many threads on this subject over the past two years or so, it's your choice if you don't wish to believe them or me however, here's one such thread:

Here's another about Safeguard at HSBC:

 

Your first link is about the closure of a bank so yes if the bank closes then all accounts will close no?

Your second link is 18 months old and relates to security and safeguard issue which as I previously

said all banks review from time to time and reading the thread I see nothing about closing accounts

because you live overseas, only if you cannot or will not meet the required criteria is there any mention of accounts having any problems..............

So still no evidence to support your " many bank accounts are closed " notion.

The op is about transferring money to support an application for a retirement extension

and you lot have turned it into a major banking dilemma. well done. 

2 hours ago, simoh1490 said:

And indeed I've had my HSBC UK account for over thirty years, fifteen of them whilst I have lived in Thailand. But about two years ago HSBC, along with many other banks, underwent a program to know their customers and understand who was doing what etc, it was called Project Safeguard. Only those with overseas addresses were selected and were subject to a hour and a half telephone interview about every aspect of their financial affairs, on the basis of that interview, some were allowed to keep their account (I was one such person) but others were asked to close them.

 

Ditto the above with Nationwide International in the IOM as their office was scheduled to close, some customers were allowed to transfer their account to an onshore branch, others were told to close them, mine was closed. So the rules are not crystal clear and different rules apply to different people, the rules in the US I gather are far more onerous where I have read here that many accounts are closed as soon as the bank gets a whiff of the account holder living in Thailand.

I am sorry you may or may not have had a bank account closed but you are the sole person 

I have ever heard of such a thing happening to. HSBC is not a British bank, the clue is in the

HS. The banks do from time to time tighten up their procedures in an effort to beat money

laundering, amongst other things, but closing accounts, I doubt that. Do you have any reference

to these " many bank accounts are closed "? 

I have worked and lived overseas for most of my working life, +/- 35 years with expats from many

countries and I have yet to hear of anyone ever having their bank account closed for living abroad.

Sorry IMHO your post is fiction.

I don't know why everyone is making such a song and dance about this??

When I transferred money ( 120,000 Gbp ) from my UK bank ( Clydesdale )

to SCB here to my FCD account in Thailand to buy my first condo I just did

normal cash transfer, only requirement was to tell my UK bank why the

money was being transferred nothing more, no need to carry thousands of

pounds/dollars on your person, rather foolish thing to do imo.

I apologise in advance but I really don't understand why you Americans insist

on making things overly complicated for yourselves?? It seems you need to pay

agents/accountants to do everything for you, do it yourself it's not rocket science

boys.

6 hours ago, edgarfriendly said:

not sure if its relevant but who else in the world leaves shitty toilet paper in baskets next to the toilet?

 

 

Almost every country that has not yet installed large bore drainage pipes, the main reason for the 

baskets/bins for used/soiled toilet paper because if disposed of down the toilets with the small bore

drain pipes will instantly block the bog!!!!!

Most of South America suffers from this little problem.

To the OP checked today in Macro Corona Six bottles 715 Baht.

Might be an idea to phone or e-mail the Embassy I'm pretty sure they will know 

the answer to your question, just a thought.

42 minutes ago, bazza73 said:

I've been doing retirement extensions for about six years now, the 800,000 baht is in a term deposit account. So far, I've never had a problem. Are you sure your advice is correct?

First of all as I said all immigration offices interpret the rules as they see fit 

I deal with Phuket and as far as they are concerned your money must be in

an account that is readily accessible, ie no delay on withdrawals, either your

immigration office interprets the rules differently or your fixed term deposit

account has instant withdrawals, I have no way of knowing which.

I have had a fixed term deposit account with instant access so that is possible.

As you may see in the item I copied from the Phuket forum it does say that " only

savings or fixed accounts where the money is at anytime available are accepted "

1 minute ago, Formaleins said:

So then, how would you stand if you had the equivalent of say 800K Baht in the Siam Commercial bank in a Foreign Currency Account? (Which I think is what the OP was originally asking)

Having had the said amount in the SCB in GBP for the last 9 retirement extensions

i would say you would be good as long as you met all the criteria for the granting of

a retirement extension.

8 minutes ago, Geordie59 said:

About 18 months ago I had a friend who had millions in a Thai Bhat deposit account and was refused. He had to transfer out of the deposit account and into a current account to get his Non Imm Visa and then his retirement extension.

The answer to the OP is yes your money in the bank for the purpose of obtaining

an extension of your permission to stay on the grounds of retirement can be in a

foreign currency which at the time of application must, i believe, have been in a

Thai bank account for two months for initial application and three months for each

subsequent renewal. The money must be in an account with instant access ie. no

restrictions on withdrawals. Below is a helpful guide to retirement extension requirements

taken from another thread in the Phuket forum, hope it helps anyone who needs this info.

Please bear in mind this is for the Phuket immigration office as different offices have

their own interpretations of the regulations, so please use this as a general guide. 

12 hours ago, oldcarguy said:

How good is the tracking ?

 

We sent a package SAL registered mail   from BKK to the USA

 

the tracking shows  the day / time it was accepted

and one more that it was sorted at Thai Post

 

Thats all for the last 10 days ,

 

its hard to have confidence with so little info  , is EMS better ?

I usually track all the way to UK then go on the UK Royal mail site

using the Thai tracking number can track it to destination no problem.

15 hours ago, abab said:

 

 

Why so wrong ? Can't feel that it's ridiculous to say "All ems mail to overseas is airmail" ?

 

Of course they are still slow, minimum 5 days, but airmail can take months when having bad luck !

 

 

Sorry I really don't understand what you are trying to convey??

7 minutes ago, keeniau96 said:

EMS inside Thailand is very fast, several recent such sends by me from Phuket to easternmost Issan in two days, same for return. This domestic has been very cheap, simple letter 37 baht. Overseas is a totally different matter. Has been 7-10 days Phuket to Los Angeles and NYC. Price for such used to be about 3-400 baht, major revision on the past year so now around 1300-1400, just a tad more than DHL for same.

I really think you may be using the wrong option there is a cheaper service with tracking, need to ask at the 

post office. Surprising with your name haha.

2 hours ago, orchis said:

But the price. A letter last week EMS 1080, airmail 52.

Letter to UK, 14 days 80 to 85 baht depending on weight

with tracking.

1080 is for express service 3 to 5 days, not worth all that 

for the not so fast service.

My letters usually take from 7 to 10 days.

All ems mail to overseas is airmail.

16 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

I don't think anything like 99% of Uni degrees are bought, although I think many are, and that's why there are so many people in jobs they are not qualified for, I know for a fact that my wife was in full time education until she was 22, and has uni degrees, and her parents are not rich. In Thailand, some people get favours and promotions with brown envelopes, in Scotland, some people get favours and promotions using funny handshakes.

Good on your missus if she was one of the 1% who graduated honestly but most do not.

I spent most of my working life in 2 companies that were riddled with free masons,one of

which i am not, so i am well aware of the unfair advantages given to those who brandish

the " funny handshakes "..................as you say leading to people being promoted far beyond

their capabilities.

2 minutes ago, 55Jay said:

What was the question again? 

 

Oh right, anybody else have bad relationship experiences in Thailand?  The answer is obvious, especially here on TVF, which OP knows of course, but always a fun thread.   

 

It doesn't make you dumb or stupid if you fall into the same old, predictable traps that so many before you, and many after, have and will fall into. 

 

You are more than a bit daft if you keep doing that over and over again.  Even if you can afford it financially.  Money doesn't equate to common sense.  Neither does age indicate wisdom.  Age just happens.  

 

OP, have you ever heard of or read Stephen Leather book called Private Dancer?  I'm told you can get a free download.  Even at this point, check it out if you haven't already.  

 

At any rate OP, at least you've got a handle on it now. The most important word in your default lexicon here is "No".  Lots seem to forget that one, or are so puzzy whipped, or scared of being alone one day, or so beat down by western feminism by the time they get here, they make themselves easy marks.

 

Keep your trigger clean and cocked, and your powder dry.  Have fun, good luck to you.

Of all the books I have ever read, and there have been many, Private Dancer is probably

the one with the most uninformed BS ever written, imho of course.

22 hours ago, SiamBeast said:

It is common knowledge that men should pick a woman of similar age or younger. Maybe 2-3 years older is okay, but no reason to pick a woman 10 years older. You know the saying: men age like wine, women age like milk.

 

A university degree, while meaningless in itself, is a way to know that you're not (usually) dealing with a girl on the bottom of the dating totem pole. It is a way to show that the girl is able to do something more than sitting down and watching TV, because she was able to finish university.

 

Without kids: It goes without saying, nobody should ever date single mothers unless then have a fantasm of seeing their wife getting banged by a mile of sausages (don't get me wrong, some men genuinely enjoy this, but not 99.5% of the population)

 

Without bar experience: Lovely bargirls...

I am sorry I must disagree with this 99% of university degrees in this country are bought

and paid for by rich parents, no study involved, and probably lots of TV watching. Rich 

kids with zero life experience or respect for anyone.

1 minute ago, AndyOz said:

Fair comment. I just wanted advice from others on the forum who have expressed this problem.

The issue is that your address and position of your house don't correlate.


Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app

Hence the request for a map maybe?

Why don't you wait and see whether it is delivered before posting?

+1 I have used it many times to UK with zero fails.

That spells reliable for me. And I always use the cheapest option with tracking not expensive.

21 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Reliable door to door tracking.

 

Very quick within Thailand but overseas varies dependent on the country and their clearance for customs etc. Still quicker than "Registered" service.

 

Ultimately depends what you are sending, where, and how quick you need it there.